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Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 4:25:25 PM   
EsotericLady


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Hello to everyone! :) :) :)

I am new to this website by a week or two, (although an experienced Domme), and am curious about certain messages that I have been receiving from submissives that are total strangers to me.

Now I am in NO WAY singling anyone out, nor saying this happens with ALL the messages I receive. But it seems to have happened enough times to make me go "Hmmm."

The list below represents messages that have been showing up repeatedly in my mailbox, and I am hoping some of you sweet SUBS might offer an explanation or two? I'm not being sarcastic, but would really like to understand.
(NOT that I don't appreciate the input of Dominants, but I'd rather hear from submissives on this topic if you please!)

Thank you for your input in advance, gents!

** Messages that include a phone number that say "call me."

** Messages that, no matter how pleasant I try to be in telling someone I am not interested (and even wishing them well!) come back with incredible rudeness (ie. "What the f*ck is your problem," "Go to h*ll, etc.)

** Messages that assume that since I am Dominant and the person is submissive, it means an immediate
relationship will take place with no discussion or anything else.

** Messages from out-of-town submissives who are traveling, giving me their hotel name and room number,
expecting that I will show up.

** Messages from those who do not read profiles, and then get angry when you offer a response that was right
in front of their eyes to read the whole time.

Here's hoping I will gain some new insight into this.

Respectfully starting a new thread,
Ms Esoteric

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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 4:33:28 PM   
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It's not limited to sub males - I'm a sub female and get those types of messages too. Sometimes I report them as spam and sometimes I give them PSAs (public service announcements) - depends on my mood.

This thread Funny messages from the other side showcases messages like this.

Mark as Spam, Block, and Delete are your friend :)

< Message edited by kalikshama -- 1/13/2013 5:05:30 PM >


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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 4:39:35 PM   
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Welcome to the site, EsotericLady.
As the lovely KK mentioned, it isn't just the submissives that send out emails that
make you raise an eyebrow. Here is the thread she referred to. Enjoy!

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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 4:53:35 PM   
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Thank you kindly for the welcome, poise!

I went to the thread you and kalikshama mentioned, and was falling off my chair laughing after barely starting to read! I decided it was definitely worth a "bookmark," for I'm sure it is going to provide lots of entertainment! LOL

Thank you both for the suggestion!

Warmly,
Ms Esoteric

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ORIGINAL: poise

Welcome to the site, EsotericLady.
As the lovely KK mentioned, it isn't just the submissives that send out emails that
make you raise an eyebrow. Here is the thread she referred to. Enjoy!


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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 4:53:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

Hello to everyone! :) :) :)

I am new to this website by a week or two, (although an experienced Domme), and am curious about certain messages that I have been receiving from submissives that are total strangers to me.

Now I am in NO WAY singling anyone out, nor saying this happens with ALL the messages I receive. But it seems to have happened enough times to make me go "Hmmm."

The list below represents messages that have been showing up repeatedly in my mailbox, and I am hoping some of you sweet SUBS might offer an explanation or two? I'm not being sarcastic, but would really like to understand.
(NOT that I don't appreciate the input of Dominants, but I'd rather hear from submissives on this topic if you please!)

Thank you for your input in advance, gents!

** Messages that include a phone number that say "call me."


Men seem to think that women are standing by on this site to fulfill their desires; that's the way they would like it to be. These women standing by for instant gratification seem rather like men, it's a projection on their part that if they are here with wish fulfillment, then there will be a corresponding human of the opposite gender that also has the need to be fulfilled - it's like magnets finding each other and coming together. Boom. Done. There seems to be no cognizance that a woman would perhaps not call a stranger as she's not that desperate- after all, they are.

quote:


** Messages that, no matter how pleasant I try to be in telling someone I am not interested (and even wishing them well!) come back with incredible rudeness (ie. "What the f*ck is your problem," "Go to h*ll, etc.)


It's a rude awakening when the BDSM Barbie Doll doesn't respond in the manner that the men had fantasized about. After all they tried to give you their most precious possession...their penis. The fact that you do not want it is mind blowing to them. It means so much to them after all. The butthurt is strong when penises are rejected and the chance to get their desires fulfilled is quashed.

quote:


** Messages that assume that since I am Dominant and the person is submissive, it means an immediate
relationship will take place with no discussion or anything else.


A continuation of the instant gratification scenario they have playing in their head from watching porn. An extension of the idea that because they have wants, there must be a way to get them taken care of. Now.

quote:


** Messages from out-of-town submissives who are traveling, giving me their hotel name and room number,
expecting that I will show up.


More fantasy and instant gratification. After all it's too much trouble to imagine these women as....women. The men are projecting their fantasies out as they experience them. As men. If they were given the chance, they'd jump on a hotel name and number. They can't imagine that you will not, there is no higher thought process going on to distinguish you or another woman from the imaginary one in their head that is an extension of themselves.

quote:


** Messages from those who do not read profiles, and then get angry when you offer a response that was right
in front of their eyes to read the whole time.


They're trying to start a conversation with as little effort as possible and are still coming in with the tunnel vision that you're going to be looking for what they want- mindless sexual gratification. They just want to get the party started, not put in any effort, they expect you to read their minds and say whatever the script is that is playing there. If you don't you are "stuck up", or "a bitch", and by the way- "screw you."

quote:


Here's hoping I will gain some new insight into this.

Respectfully starting a new thread,
Ms Esoteric



Good luck.

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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 5:02:21 PM   
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It's an unfortunate fact that many men, Dominant or submissive, treat the Internet like the shady street corner in the red light district and figure that all women on the Internet are standing on that corner. It's common, don't sweat it. You know what you want, just stick to it.

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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 5:07:28 PM   
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quote:

It's a rude awakening when the BDSM Barbie Doll doesn't respond in the manner that the men had fantasized about. After all they tried to give you their most precious possession...their penis. The fact that you do not want it is mind blowing to them. It means so much to them after all. The butthurt is strong when penises are rejected and the chance to get their desires fulfilled is quashed.


Nominated for Quote of the Day!

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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 5:11:31 PM   
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quote:



After all they tried to give you their most precious possession...their penis. The fact that you do not want it is mind blowing to them. It means so much to them after all. The butthurt is strong when penises are rejected



But...but...but... *Gollum eyes and voice* It is MY PRECIOUS! ^^

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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 5:24:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dreadmath


quote:



After all they tried to give you their most precious possession...their penis. The fact that you do not want it is mind blowing to them. It means so much to them after all. The butthurt is strong when penises are rejected



But...but...but... *Gollum eyes and voice* It is MY PRECIOUS! ^^




Hahahaha....
I know, each and every penis is a special little snowflake. Actually I'm rather fond of them, I just can't take them all too seriously when I see what they make men do.

quote:


Nominated for Quote of the Day!


Lol, thanks Kalikshama

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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 5:29:26 PM   
EsotericLady


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You offer some very interesting insight...for which I sincerely thank you! :)
quote:

ORIGINAL: Killerangel

quote:

ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

Hello to everyone! :) :) :)

I am new to this website by a week or two, (although an experienced Domme), and am curious about certain messages that I have been receiving from submissives that are total strangers to me.

Now I am in NO WAY singling anyone out, nor saying this happens with ALL the messages I receive. But it seems to have happened enough times to make me go "Hmmm."

The list below represents messages that have been showing up repeatedly in my mailbox, and I am hoping some of you sweet SUBS might offer an explanation or two? I'm not being sarcastic, but would really like to understand.
(NOT that I don't appreciate the input of Dominants, but I'd rather hear from submissives on this topic if you please!)

Thank you for your input in advance, gents!

** Messages that include a phone number that say "call me."


Men seem to think that women are standing by on this site to fulfill their desires; that's the way they would like it to be. These women standing by for instant gratification seem rather like men, it's a projection on their part that if they are here with wish fulfillment, then there will be a corresponding human of the opposite gender that also has the need to be fulfilled - it's like magnets finding each other and coming together. Boom. Done. There seems to be no cognizance that a woman would perhaps not call a stranger as she's not that desperate- after all, they are.

quote:


** Messages that, no matter how pleasant I try to be in telling someone I am not interested (and even wishing them well!) come back with incredible rudeness (ie. "What the f*ck is your problem," "Go to h*ll, etc.)


It's a rude awakening when the BDSM Barbie Doll doesn't respond in the manner that the men had fantasized about. After all they tried to give you their most precious possession...their penis. The fact that you do not want it is mind blowing to them. It means so much to them after all. The butthurt is strong when penises are rejected and the chance to get their desires fulfilled is quashed.

quote:


** Messages that assume that since I am Dominant and the person is submissive, it means an immediate
relationship will take place with no discussion or anything else.


A continuation of the instant gratification scenario they have playing in their head from watching porn. An extension of the idea that because they have wants, there must be a way to get them taken care of. Now.

quote:


** Messages from out-of-town submissives who are traveling, giving me their hotel name and room number,
expecting that I will show up.


More fantasy and instant gratification. After all it's too much trouble to imagine these women as....women. The men are projecting their fantasies out as they experience them. As men. If they were given the chance, they'd jump on a hotel name and number. They can't imagine that you will not, there is no higher thought process going on to distinguish you or another woman from the imaginary one in their head that is an extension of themselves.

quote:


** Messages from those who do not read profiles, and then get angry when you offer a response that was right
in front of their eyes to read the whole time.


They're trying to start a conversation with as little effort as possible and are still coming in with the tunnel vision that you're going to be looking for what they want- mindless sexual gratification. They just want to get the party started, not put in any effort, they expect you to read their minds and say whatever the script is that is playing there. If you don't you are "stuck up", or "a bitch", and by the way- "screw you."

quote:


Here's hoping I will gain some new insight into this.

Respectfully starting a new thread,
Ms Esoteric



Good luck.


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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 5:32:12 PM   
EsotericLady


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Thank you for your encouragement, Alecta!

Except I'm not standing under the red light, I'm standing under the blue light!
Oh oh....(dashing from the blue light special district!!!!!)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Alecta

It's an unfortunate fact that many men, Dominant or submissive, treat the Internet like the shady street corner in the red light district and figure that all women on the Internet are standing on that corner. It's common, don't sweat it. You know what you want, just stick to it.


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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 5:34:18 PM   
EsotericLady


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LMAO Dreadmath!!!!

Well you'd best hang on to it then!!!!

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dreadmath


quote:



After all they tried to give you their most precious possession...their penis. The fact that you do not want it is mind blowing to them. It means so much to them after all. The butthurt is strong when penises are rejected



But...but...but... *Gollum eyes and voice* It is MY PRECIOUS! ^^



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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 5:38:51 PM   
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Ideally, yes ^^

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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 6:43:29 PM   
Alecta


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Shh don't tempt me lol

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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/13/2013 8:24:01 PM   
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It's simple. It seems there are a rather large number of men who come to this site in the thought that women who are on here are all sluts and will fuck anyone, that all women are easy. And when they find out that's not true, they get angry and rude because that's what you're supposed to be here for! Did you forget to read the rules?

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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/14/2013 8:03:13 PM   
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No response is a response. You're much less likely to get an abusive response if you don't respond to someone you aren't interested in than if you reject them.

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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/14/2013 8:25:23 PM   
EsotericLady


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Alright. I understand what you are saying, and thank you for your input. HOWEVER...
what about all the males who complain that they don't get a reply to their messages, and they don't know why?
If they send a message, someone could at LEAST tell them why they aren't interested. They wait and wait for days but still don't get a reply, they contend.

It seems like such a no-win situation! (shrugs)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

No response is a response. You're much less likely to get an abusive response if you don't respond to someone you aren't interested in than if you reject them.


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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/14/2013 8:36:29 PM   
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To be honest Ive been on some shady corners in red light districts (I have a non-profit helping women get out of sex industry) that have seemed better then this site sometimes...idiots get on her and do make it look like a dating line more often then not...it is frustrating but ya just weed them out and go for the one or two that may turn out to be something worthwhile.....

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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/14/2013 11:21:09 PM   
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no response IS a response. It's like when a guy says "I'll call you". No call means he's not interested. And the older you get you learn to take it with a grain of salt when a guy says that and just roll your eyes and go on with your life.


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RE: Curious Questions from a Domme new to the site! - 1/15/2013 12:14:21 AM   
Alecta


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quote:

ORIGINAL: EsotericLady

Alright. I understand what you are saying, and thank you for your input. HOWEVER...
what about all the males who complain that they don't get a reply to their messages, and they don't know why?



The point you're missing here is most of those guys who complain about not getting a reply just want to complain, they don't actually care why you didn't respond so they can change, they want to be unconditionally accepted as they are.

Sometimes I'm not so sure about serious answers on the forums helping the "no one replies to me!" types. I get to wondering if we aren't jus teaching them to lie better and trick the next woman into putting themselves in a compromising position.

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