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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 5:14:29 PM

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What? It's not real? I just wasted 600 bucks?????!!!!

Don't worry - it's refundable!

I asked a few months ago about how we keep them as slaves.

You'll love the answer.

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Date: 18 Nov 2012 13:14:38 -0700
Subject: Re: How do I purchase a slave girl from collarme anyway
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We sent you the price list yesterday. To answer your question, Asian women are brought up naturally submissive in nature so you would not have any problem stamping your authority over them.

We would send you the committment form and the rules and regulations after you have chosen the slave you desire and made the refundable security deposit of $600.

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 5:17:10 PM

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So, guess what happens to your little slave girl?
She turns into an American (well, an immigrant, to be exact), which means she no longer has to give you sex.
Remember: She's not in Asia anymore - so all the related cultural benefits no longer apply to you.

Guess what you have now?
The same Asian gal you could have gotten for free by walking into any bar in San Jose.

Good luck!

Actually, she doesn't turn into an American. Not even marriage would guarantee citizenship.

She would be an illegal alien once the visa and/or maximum stay limit expired. That's if the Chinese girl could manage to even get a visa into the United States.

Actually.. If it was actual human trafficking and she has been brought into the US then she can get a special visa that is specifically for sex & human traffick victims.. There are requirements like cooperating with law enforcement, etc.. This does actually happen, unfortunately, even in the US..
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=9a52923ee5dd3210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=829c3e4d77d73210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=02ed3e4d77d73210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=02ed3e4d77d73210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 5:20:11 PM

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So, guess what happens to your little slave girl?
She turns into an American (well, an immigrant, to be exact), which means she no longer has to give you sex.
Remember: She's not in Asia anymore - so all the related cultural benefits no longer apply to you.

Guess what you have now?
The same Asian gal you could have gotten for free by walking into any bar in San Jose.

Good luck!

Actually, she doesn't turn into an American. Not even marriage would guarantee citizenship.

She would be an illegal alien once the visa and/or maximum stay limit expired. That's if the Chinese girl could manage to even get a visa into the United States.

Actually.. If it was actual human trafficking and she has been brought into the US then she can get a special visa that is specifically for sex & human traffick victims.. There are requirements like cooperating with law enforcement, etc.. This does actually happen, unfortunately, even in the US..
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=02ed3e4d77d73210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=02ed3e4d77d73210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

Correct, but the scenario presented was more like getting someone in the US to give them a free trip.

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 5:22:05 PM

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http://www.wtae.com/news/local/allegheny/Police-Alivia-Kail-may-be-alive-in-human-trafficking/-/10927008/18140174/-/emos8yz/-/index.html#ixzz2I62mZp5j

What's sad about that article is that it is journalism at its worst.

The headline & first sentence state human trafficking.
Yet, the body offers no evidence whatsoever.
Her keychain was found in a rented car of a policeman gone bad was the only evidence.

While it's sad she's missing, there's absolutely no evidence that human trafficking is involved - and certainly not enough to justify a headline.

The headline should be: "We journalists and police have absolutely no idea where this girl is so we may as well make a headline of human trafficking because the vast majority of readers are idiots who want to hear that."

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 5:25:34 PM

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Correct, but the scenario presented was more like getting someone in the US to give them a free trip.

If the guy actually pays a big chunk of money (& imo $10 or $20k USD would qualify), and the girl shows up and he is expecting her to be a sex slave, then that is human trafficking.. not merely a free trip.. and if there was a large recent withdrawal from the dumb dudes bank account, that would be hard for him to explain to the cops any other way..

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 5:29:56 PM

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Correct, but the scenario presented was more like getting someone in the US to give them a free trip.

If the guy actually pays a big chunk of money (& imo $10 or $20k USD would qualify), and the girl shows up and he is expecting her to be a sex slave, then that is human trafficking.. not merely a free trip.. and if there was a large recent withdrawal from the dumb dudes bank account, that would be hard for him to explain to the cops any other way..

I understand that. But, you're missing my point. There are women that scam guys into sending the money and then they walk away when they get to the US. They generally don't go to the authorities, they just disappear into the ethnic areas of the city and become illegal immigrants. It happens quite a bit to the guys that try to "buy" wives.

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 5:31:13 PM

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If the guy actually pays a big chunk of money (& imo $10 or $20k USD would qualify), and the girl shows up and he is expecting her to be a sex slave, then that is human trafficking.. not merely a free trip..

I doubt a girl ever shows up. It's like most trafficking stories. People make them up.

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 5:37:41 PM

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Correct, but the scenario presented was more like getting someone in the US to give them a free trip.

If the guy actually pays a big chunk of money (& imo $10 or $20k USD would qualify), and the girl shows up and he is expecting her to be a sex slave, then that is human trafficking.. not merely a free trip.. and if there was a large recent withdrawal from the dumb dudes bank account, that would be hard for him to explain to the cops any other way..

I understand that. But, you're missing my point. There are women that scam guys into sending the money and then they walk away when they get to the US. They generally don't go to the authorities, they just disappear into the ethnic areas of the city and become illegal immigrants. It happens quite a bit to the guys that try to "buy" wives.

of course there are all sorts of scams but if you are talking about a guy paying $10k, thats not a free trip.. the guy thinks he has bought a sex slave and that is human trafficking..

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 5:47:39 PM

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If the guy actually pays a big chunk of money (& imo $10 or $20k USD would qualify), and the girl shows up and he is expecting her to be a sex slave, then that is human trafficking.. not merely a free trip..

I doubt a girl ever shows up. It's like most trafficking stories. People make them up.

really???? most trafficking stories are made up?? these are just trafficking into the US from other countries, not including young American girls that are trafficked.. Do you seriously think the FBI would have a special department to handle human trafficking if it didnt exist and wasnt a big problem??..
http://www.f-4-c.org/statistics/Default.asp

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 5:59:43 PM

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human trafficking if it didnt exist and wasnt a big problem??..

People are dumb. Women are prostitutes. Men control prostitutes. After a while, the woman want out of the easy life. It's not so easy a life, and it's not so easy to get out either. They have no other skills. No social network. They lie and say they were trafficked.
It has happened since the beginning of time. It will happen until the end of time.

You really don't want to get into a battle of the charts, due to lies, damn lies, and statistics.

source: http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/previous%20series/lcj/1-20/working/chapter%204%20the%20working%20lives%20of%20prostitutes.html
Working girls : prostitutes, their life and social control

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 6:05:01 PM

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All women are whores. Says so right here in Newsweek!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/09/27/the-pursuit-of-sexual-happiness.html

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 6:18:41 PM

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I wouldn't say all women are whores but certainly a huge number. Maybe 5 or 10% of the population if you want statistics.
Just go to redbook for a sample. They might scream trafficking but then again, they'll scream anything if you don't pay them their 200 an hour under the table tax free income!

For the lady who quotes the crazy trafficking bullshit, see these victorian statistics from the 1800s
http://www.victorianweb.org/authors/wilde/shaw.html

And before anyone says that the average age of trafficked girls is 13 (which is statistically impossible), see this web site http://eminism.org/blog/entry/62

Anyone can quote a bunch of charts so feel free not to believe these.

If you guys have a chart for the astounding number of whores out there just within a couple of miles of where you live, I'd like to see it.
I did a search for my area code and the pages of whores went on and on forever so there are many thousands just in my area code alone.

None of these are paying taxes mind you (this isn't nevada) so when they say women make less than men, I sit there and smile at how stupid people are.

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 6:25:32 PM

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human trafficking if it didnt exist and wasnt a big problem??..

People are dumb. Women are prostitutes. Men control prostitutes. After a while, the woman want out of the easy life. It's not so easy a life, and it's not so easy to get out either. They have no other skills. No social network. They lie and say they were trafficked.
It has happened since the beginning of time. It will happen until the end of time.

You really don't want to get into a battle of the charts, due to lies, damn lies, and statistics.

that says nothing about trafficking, and its from a different country.. again, the FBI investigates when trafficking has been reported and you cant tell me they are so easily fooled.. human trafficking isnt just for sex, only 46% of it is, the chart shows there are various other forms of servitude making up the rest.. men and children are trafficked also, not just women..

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 6:30:59 PM

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 6:42:55 PM

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I guessing it goes something like this.
They tell you they have women in Asia who are dying to be your sex slave (why? Because they're Asian, that's why.)
You pay them on a sliding scale, about 20000 USD for Japanese, 10000 for Malaysian, and Chinese is somewhere in between.
Oh, but wait. They have medical expenses. They need shots. Travel arrangements need to be paid for.
Oh, and, you'd better be ready to put a monetary token of your sincerity on the line because, after all, you are buying a slave girl so you'd better prove you're serious first.

BTW, even if you ever do get to meet that slave girl, the girls are told the laws in the United States, and are told to be nice to you the first day.
After that, all bets are off.

So, guess what happens to your little slave girl?
She turns into an American (well, an immigrant, to be exact), which means she no longer has to give you sex.
Remember: She's not in Asia anymore - so all the related cultural benefits no longer apply to you.

Guess what you have now?
The same Asian gal you could have gotten for free by walking into any bar in San Jose.

Good luck!

Nope. No women, no real organization. Just a place to send money to, for a woman that doesn't exist.

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 7:46:58 PM

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Oh my goodness! Human beings are still (really in this day and age) being sold all over the world...for all sorts of reasons. It goes beyond terrible" in my opinion... more like despicable!

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I reported it before i created this topic. But im scared to think that somebody really in this day and age sells people around.
Terrible.

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 7:58:58 PM

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I'm with you at this point in the thread, littlewonder!

Please hold me back from saying what I'd like to but can't!

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 8:30:11 PM

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was tiring to stay out of it as well . And watch the Fur Fly.

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/15/2013 10:30:38 PM

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oh there's sooooo many things I could say but then Master would probably start giving me lectures again about playing nice.

Along with the mods no doubt.

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RE: Is this legal? - 1/16/2013 12:40:30 PM

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I think the point of the charts was that anyone can say anything they want with statistics because one chart (or a hundred) doesn't prove anything.

Those of us who are scientists don't believe what is not proven - and some things are just hard to prove.

The whole trafficking thing is emotional more than scientific most of the time - so it's blown way (way way way way) out of proportion, like Lyme Disease or Global Warming, or Gun Control, or like any of a number of similar issues are.

Personally, I believe that, statistically, trafficking is a very minor problem COMPARED to the huge business of prostitution (sort of like child labor compared to the huge business of making shoes) - but that doesn't make it a non issue. It just makes it a teeny tiny proportion of the whole problem taken holistically.

It just has to be taken in proportion, with facts, and openly discussed.

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