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pompeii -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/16/2013 10:26:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Pyramus
I fill my iPhone with the music stripped off the videos - that's how I know! :)


Here's the proof.

STEP 1: Download the audio from those CFNM onto your iPhone;
STEP 2: Ask a babe (like those in the videos) on a date with her friends;
STEP 3: Play 'that' music.

If, upon hearing the tunes, she suddenly smiles at her friends, throws her drink on the floor, claps her hands in glee, laughs a big-toothed smile, and reaches out for your huge cock as she slides to her knees to gulp your meat down as she shows-off her skills to all her equally gleeful friends, then, there! You have your proof! It's real!

Otherwise ... real women don't act that way ... at least not in real life.
(Too bad.)



pompeii -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/16/2013 10:34:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
It's all staged.


I think the fact that the women act exactly like you'd want them to act is an indication that they're paid.
In fact, if you look closely, you'll see the men go to some women who brush them off - while others delve in with gusto.
I suspect it may be a bit more complex than merely being staged - in that the allure may be free drinks for some - and acting jobs for others.

There are just too many women for each one to be paid (bear in mind a typical video easily shows 50 to 100 women in the audience, of which a fair proportion stroke the cock with their hands and imbibe the meat with their mouths).

So, if it 'is' staged, it's probably the most expensive porn out there, assuming the women make their typical $200/hour or so (times 100 women, + free drinks, + paying the men). Well, the men 'might' do it for free. Dunno. I would, if I could. :)



bayareacouple -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/16/2013 11:44:08 PM)

I think women want men to act more romantic and men want women to act more sexual.



Rochsub2009 -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 6:43:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Longerthanyou
Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? The reason I ask is I've never seen women act that way....



I've been to several CFNM parties. But they were all femdom events. None of them were "horny women giving blowjobs to buff men" events.

I'm not saying that there's no such thing as a "horny women giving blowjobs to buff men" event. But I've never heard of one, nor do I know anyone else who has.

I'd be very skeptical that this happens in real life. The reason is that in many (most) of these videos, 5 or 6 of the women in the audience spontaneously decide to give the guy a blowjob. How many times have you gotten a blowjob from 6 different complete strangers? Women just don't act like that (not even when they're drunk). Most would find the idea of giving a complete stranger a blowjob to be disgusting. And giving said blowjob after 8 other women had also given him a blowjob would be completely unsanitary. Nope, real women don't do that. Just think of the wildest bachelorette party you've ever heard of, or the drunkest college party you can remember attending. Did it turn into a "blowjob party"? I didn't think so.

BTW, the CFNM parties that I attended were heavily vetted. The women were all Dommes who were known members of the local BDSM community, and the sub men were usually their subs/slaves and perhaps a few known sub males for the women who didn't own a sub/slave. The women are in charge, and the males are there to serve the women. The men act as human furniture. Serve drinks. Rub their Domme's feet. And do other acts of male submission. Sex and blowjobs are usually not on the menu. More importantly, Dommes know that they are not to touch a male that doesn't belong to them. If a Domme does want a male who doesn't belong to her to do something, she asks his owner first, or else she asks one of the unattached males.

These parties are usually PRIVATE and by invitation only.



JeffBC -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 8:01:19 AM)

All of that makes total sense Roch. And heck, it happens all the time on the male dom side and I don't even think we have a name for it. But as I think on it, it wouldn't be all that uncommon for Carol and I to be visiting over at some other M/s couple's house and end up with the two female slaves partially or completely unclothed.



graceadieu -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 8:32:34 AM)

Is this those porn videos that are supposed to be a bachelorette parties, where the ladies have sex with the male strippers at a bar? Yeah, those are totally fake.



thracia -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 9:17:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

Is this those porn videos that are supposed to be a bachelorette parties, where the ladies have sex with the male strippers at a bar? Yeah, those are totally fake.


If they're fake, that means the women are paid, right?
With a 100 women in the club, do you think they're all paid?



Pyramus -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 9:25:13 AM)

I don't discount the probability that they're fake - but - with so many women involved (let's say 50 to 100) - I wonder how it works.

Does it work like this?

a) Talent agency advertises for jobs paying (what?)
b) 50 to 100 women apply for the modeling job
c) They're told to wear dance clothes, and then to make believe they're at a bachelorette party, and then to appear to be drinking and having fun, and when the naked guy comes around, for them to blow him (but for some to refuse).

Is that how it works?



Moonlightmaddnes -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 10:15:45 AM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

you've never been to a bachelorette party or Chippendales.




There is a bar a couple towns over that has male strippers in a few times a year. A few of my friends really want us to get together to go. I am being the party pooper saying that sounds rather boring and since I can't even drink it sounds really boring. LOL



Rochsub2009 -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 12:46:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

All of that makes total sense Roch. And heck, it happens all the time on the male dom side and I don't even think we have a name for it. But as I think on it, it wouldn't be all that uncommon for Carol and I to be visiting over at some other M/s couple's house and end up with the two female slaves partially or completely unclothed.


The unclothed part is easy to envision. But what I have a much harder time envisioning is Carol giving blowjobs to every guy in the room. Even if you ordered her to, she'd probably be reluctant to give a blowjob to a total stranger. Particularly if she didn't know him and had no assurances about his medical history.

In these videos, some of the women even decide to "spontaneously" fuck the guy in front of a room full of cheering women. Some of the guys on here are assuming that it's real because they can't figure out how a pornographer could pay that many women. But I assume the opposite. I assume it's fake because I don't know any women who act like that.



subinsilicon -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 1:42:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009
I assume it's fake because I don't know any women who act like that.


I don't disagree but I also wonder how so many women get compensated. Probably only 10% o the women give the blowjobs or fuck on the stage, whereas the rest clap with joy.

Of course, enough money pays for anything but porn films aren't really known for paying well so I wonder how they pay for 100 extras.



littlewonder -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 3:19:43 PM)

Here's how it works.

When a lot of actors are needed for background, they are advertised as seeking extras. Extras rarely get paid, They get "paid" by being in the background and thus are able to place it on their acting resume.

Those who are used for the primary roles are paid.




fucktoyprincess -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 5:56:02 PM)

omg....another thread essentially about "is porn real".

Really?

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OsideGirl -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 6:12:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Longerthanyou


Yet, in these parties, the men strut about like roosters, while the women gleefully handle their privates (the men's privates), often fucking on stage, and certainly blowjobs are the norm. Obviously, the cameramen are known to all - as these are professional shoots.

Which brings me to the original question. Are these staged? I (and many others) merely assume so - but - the question remains. Does anyone have any proof either way? Or are we all just guessing?


There's a reason why most BDSM clubs don't allow sex. Because, if you're paying admission to have sex, then some cities consider that pandering/prostitution and is thus illegal. The filming would be positive proof in a court of law. So, yeah, I'm going to guess they're staged if there is filmed sex involved.



JeffBC -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 6:20:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009
The unclothed part is easy to envision. But what I have a much harder time envisioning is Carol giving blowjobs to every guy in the room. Even if you ordered her to, she'd probably be reluctant to give a blowjob to a total stranger. Particularly if she didn't know him and had no assurances about his medical history.

Well yes. I was commenting on your more "reality oriented" view of things.

If I was commanding carol to give blow jobs to random strangers at a bare minimum it wouldn't be as "fun & spontaneous" as those videos.




descrite -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 11:27:14 PM)




Yes, they're staged. Yes, everyone is paid.

But they're paid about eight drachmas per shoot.

Most of these are made in the Czech Republic, where life (and poon) is cheap. Look at the teeth of all involved.

Works for horses, too.




descrite -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 11:28:18 PM)

The teeth thing, I mean. Look at a horse's teeth-- not taking a horse to a staged porno dance. Because that's more expensive, even in Czechzachistan.



Doomkittie -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/17/2013 11:48:42 PM)

We have clothed female, naked male afternoon teas as fundraisers here and the naked men serve, it is a no touching one, well except for welcoming hugs, so it is not a grope fest, not that I wouldn't mind going to a grope fest of naked males



sub4alargeLady -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/18/2013 5:07:38 AM)

Unfortunately for us subs D/s and BDSM are both highly commercialized so somewhere, and usually not very far, along the line you'll be expected to pay. That's just the nature of the beast.



DarkSteven -> RE: Are those CFNM kinky dancing parties real (unpaid) women or are they staged with the pros? (1/18/2013 5:38:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sub4alargeLady

Unfortunately for us subs D/s and BDSM are both highly commercialized so somewhere, and usually not very far, along the line you'll be expected to pay. That's just the nature of the beast.


Nope.

Look, fella, your profile ensures that you won't get a lifestyle Domme.

1. You show no pic of yourself.
2. Your cartoon pic shows a Domme accepting tribute.
3. Your specifically say that you're too timid to ever approach a woman, and ask that you be contacted.
4. Your username and pic show that you have a fetish for larger women. Nothing wrong with that, but remember that women prefer to be loved for themselves, not your fetish fulfillment.
5. You don't even specify where in the UK you are. So a Domme doesn't know if you're local to her or not.

There are plenty of women out there who not only are lifestyle exclusively, but would be offended if you suggested paying tribute. Make it look like you;re serious about finding one, and PUT OUT SOME EFFORT. And don't be jaded after five whole days of looking.

All that said, welcome to the site.



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