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Guns

There is too much regulation already.

10% (28)

There should be far more stringent background checks.

15% (39)

Reinstate the ban on assault guns.

11% (29)

Make conceal and carry the law in all 50 states.

10% (28)

Make gun classes mandatory.

16% (42)

The only guns availible to the public should be hunting rifles.

4% (12)

The 2nd amendment includes individuals owning firearms.

21% (54)

The 2nd amendment does not include individuals, it's been distorted.

3% (8)

I wish my country had gun laws similar to the US

0% (1)

I don't want my country to have gun laws like the US

6% (16)

Total Votes : 257

(last vote on : 2/2/2013 9:53:19 PM)
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tazzygirl -> RE: Guns (1/22/2013 9:33:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level They should only be jailed if their lack if ethics results in breaking the law, of course. As for results, I believe that if someone wants in that safe badly enough, then they'll do so. How much are you willing to legislate, for what you gain? Anyway, I'm sure we'll get all this ironed out [:D] If one life is spared, isnt that enough?

tazzygirl -> RE: Guns (1/22/2013 9:35:39 PM)
quote: Awesome! Mandating more purchases! The Corporate Overlords will be happy. You dont have to buy them. quote: What level of security is necessary, Tazzy? A gun safe? You'll mandate a gun safe? What happens if the gun safe is broken into? Then you are not held liable. quote: What happens if the person is shot while getting the gun out of the safe, and now, the safe is open for the thief? What happened to common sense? See my post to Aynne.

BamaD -> RE: Guns (1/22/2013 10:09:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: Awesome! Mandating more purchases! The Corporate Overlords will be happy. You dont have to buy them. quote: What level of security is necessary, Tazzy? A gun safe? You'll mandate a gun safe? What happens if the gun safe is broken into? Then you are not held liable. quote: What happens if the person is shot while getting the gun out of the safe, and now, the safe is open for the thief? What happened to common sense? See my post to Aynne. What if they steal the safe?

slvemike4u -> RE: Guns (1/22/2013 10:11:38 PM)
What if someone else gets to ask the next stupid question ?

BamaD -> RE: Guns (1/22/2013 10:15:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u What if someone else gets to ask the next stupid question ? That happened to someone in another thread. If he had to provide the broken into safe he would be up the creek. So that wasn't a stupid question no matter how badly you want it to be.

slvemike4u -> RE: Guns (1/22/2013 10:22:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u What if someone else gets to ask the next stupid question ? That happened to someone in another thread. If he had to provide the broken into safe he would be up the creek. So that wasn't a stupid question no matter how badly you want it to be. sorry....still a stupid question. I'm not even going to go to the trouble to explain to you why.

BamaD -> RE: Guns (1/22/2013 10:29:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u What if someone else gets to ask the next stupid question ? That happened to someone in another thread. If he had to provide the broken into safe he would be up the creek. So that wasn't a stupid question no matter how badly you want it to be. sorry....still a stupid question. I'm not even going to go to the trouble to explain to you why. Valid related to real event but you don't like it so it is stupid, if you say so. No point in discussing anything further with you

slvemike4u -> RE: Guns (1/22/2013 10:39:46 PM)
Works for me......I wasn't all that interested in talking to you anyway [:)]

tazzygirl -> RE: Guns (1/22/2013 10:50:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: Awesome! Mandating more purchases! The Corporate Overlords will be happy. You dont have to buy them. quote: What level of security is necessary, Tazzy? A gun safe? You'll mandate a gun safe? What happens if the gun safe is broken into? Then you are not held liable. quote: What happens if the person is shot while getting the gun out of the safe, and now, the safe is open for the thief? What happened to common sense? See my post to Aynne. What if they steal the safe? 1) I wasnt aware they were to easy to steal 2) You bought it, I am sure you can prove you had a safe, no? 3) If your safe is that.. cheap... that they can pick it up and tote it out the door, wasnt really a safe to begin with.. more like an excuse.

slvemike4u -> RE: Guns (1/22/2013 11:48:41 PM)
You have way more patience than I do......lol Seriously,why go to the trouble when presented with such intellectual laziness ? Don't bother Tazzy...I'm going to bed any way.....goodnight all.

Level -> RE: Guns (1/23/2013 3:47:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Level They should only be jailed if their lack if ethics results in breaking the law, of course. As for results, I believe that if someone wants in that safe badly enough, then they'll do so. How much are you willing to legislate, for what you gain? Anyway, I'm sure we'll get all this ironed out [:D] If one life is spared, isnt that enough? As callous as it may sound, or be, I don't believe in going to any length for safety, especially potential safety.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Guns (1/23/2013 5:18:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Level They should only be jailed if their lack if ethics results in breaking the law, of course. As for results, I believe that if someone wants in that safe badly enough, then they'll do so. How much are you willing to legislate, for what you gain? Anyway, I'm sure we'll get all this ironed out [:D] If one life is spared, isnt that enough? No, it is not enough. If you are going to use the "one life spared" criterion, you will be outlawing cars, bicycles, knives, big rocks, cap guns, hot dogs, marshmallows, etc. You never answered my question, tazzy. What level of security will be required so that one wouldn't be held liable when one's guns are stolen?

EsotericLady -> RE: Guns (1/23/2013 6:53:26 AM)
I listened in horror on the radio yesterday when a police officer in my state said there were no specific laws as yet to put restrictions on those with mental health issues from owning a gun. He noted a case where, in doing a background check and finding the potential permit holder to have made multiple suicide attempts in the past, he still had to allow that person a permit. quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf 3) More Stringent Background checks - Again as a gun owner I have supported this as well. The other side is that mental health issues need to be a part of the check.

tazzygirl -> RE: Guns (1/23/2013 9:51:14 AM)
quote: No, it is not enough. If you are going to use the "one life spared" criterion, you will be outlawing cars, bicycles, knives, big rocks, cap guns, hot dogs, marshmallows, etc. Drunk driving deaths have been cut in half. We have used it. quote: You never answered my question, tazzy. What level of security will be required so that one wouldn't be held liable when one's guns are stolen? I have answered it.

OrionTheWolf -> RE: Guns (1/23/2013 9:51:22 AM)
Due to lawsuits about privacy, people raising hell about privacy, and a few other things, many state and even the fed government have had problems in the past collecting the data and making it available. Sorry but if someone is determined to be a possible risk to themselves and others, that right to privacy thing should give way to the general welfare of the people. Gun control happens on a state level, and that means there will also be some backroom deals to clean someone's record up of the smaller things, so they can get a CCW. I know of someone right now that had 2 DUI's, and a Domestic Violence arrest sealed or removed from their record so they could get a CCW. The exceptions may happen, but we can still target the larger areas that should be a concern to all. quote: ORIGINAL: EsotericLady I listened in horror on the radio yesterday when a police officer in my state said there were no specific laws as yet to put restrictions on those with mental health issues from owning a gun. He noted a case where, in doing a background check and finding the potential permit holder to have made multiple suicide attempts in the past, he still had to allow that person a permit. quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf 3) More Stringent Background checks - Again as a gun owner I have supported this as well. The other side is that mental health issues need to be a part of the check.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Guns (1/23/2013 10:24:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: No, it is not enough. If you are going to use the "one life spared" criterion, you will be outlawing cars, bicycles, knives, big rocks, cap guns, hot dogs, marshmallows, etc. Drunk driving deaths have been cut in half. We have used it. quote: You never answered my question, tazzy. What level of security will be required so that one wouldn't be held liable when one's guns are stolen? I have answered it. Why haven't we used it in cases other than drunk driving? How many deaths are caused by vehicle where the driver wasn't drunk?

tazzygirl -> RE: Guns (1/23/2013 10:43:49 AM)
quote: Why haven't we used it in cases other than drunk driving? How many deaths are caused by vehicle where the driver wasn't drunk? You know how to google, yes? You keep bringing up vehicles. Yet you cannot address the thread.. which is labeled... guns. Everything has the potential to kill. Minimizing risks are the best we can do. Demanding gun owners be responsible owners is just one way to minimize risks. Like mandatory seat belt laws.

LaTigresse -> RE: Guns (1/23/2013 11:33:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: uglycowwanted I ticked the 'I don't want gun laws like the US' and I notice no one has ticked that they would. To be honest most of the Western world is amazed that America still allows guns to be so freely available. We can understand why they are in the Third World because desperate people living in poverty and without any significant law enforcement need them, but not in the West. Clearly most gun laws in America are based in the frontier mentality of fighting to take control of an untamed land, but that was a long time now, and the World has changed. The reason America has far more shootings than other countries is not because it has any more lunatics than anywhere else, it's just that those that do can get access to guns. I suppose the school shootings lead to a simple question, what does America love most, it's kids or it's guns? The answer appears to be the latter, and it is this the rest of the World finds hard to understand. This....so much this.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Guns (1/23/2013 11:50:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: Why haven't we used it in cases other than drunk driving? How many deaths are caused by vehicle where the driver wasn't drunk? You know how to google, yes? You keep bringing up vehicles. Yet you cannot address the thread.. which is labeled... guns. Everything has the potential to kill. Minimizing risks are the best we can do. Demanding gun owners be responsible owners is just one way to minimize risks. Like mandatory seat belt laws. I'm sorry you can't recognize "governmental legislation creep" when it's staring you in the face. I don't have a problem with making gun owners responsible for the security of their guns, as an idea. The particulars of that, though, is where the issue will be. The "if one life is spared" line is bullshit. You know it. You can't handle someone bringing up all sorts of reasons where that kind of thinking can lead you. Then, it's back to "stick to the topic" bullshit.

tazzygirl -> RE: Guns (1/23/2013 12:02:49 PM)
quote: I'm sorry you can't recognize "governmental legislation creep" when it's staring you in the face. I don't have a problem with making gun owners responsible for the security of their guns, as an idea. The particulars of that, though, is where the issue will be. The "if one life is spared" line is bullshit. You know it. You can't handle someone bringing up all sorts of reasons where that kind of thinking can lead you. Then, it's back to "stick to the topic" bullshit. No, what I find bullshit is a gun owner who whines and cries because he cant think. I have seen some of the stupidest questions here. "What if I need to grab a gun and Im asleep and someone breaks into my house?" "What if my safe gets stolen?" "What if someone pisses on my leg and it pisses me off?" All extremely piss poor excuses to avoid the conversation. Be honest. There isnt a single one of you that wants to put out the money you could be spending on another gun into protecting yourself, and your community, from a stolen weapon. There isnt any of you who see any merit to demanding owners be responsible by installing security measures. A gun show, Medina, Ohio, a vendor buys a gun from a seller... he notices there is a bullet in the chamber.. he goes to clear it.. it goes off. Purely accidental. Someone else is shot in the groin... poor fella. How many of the gun owners here would take a loaded gun to a gun show to sell? This was NOT a responsible gun owner. 7 accidental shootings at gun shows that day. Yet you all trust them to handle their weapons. Are you freaking nuts?

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