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pretty worthless, but then neither can you add, he would have been 20.

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email taz she knows people who have all the numbers.

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This is all a case of someone believing tin foil sites, digging deeply into the topic to find obscure meanings... while totally avoiding the obvious, such as the ages.

While the rest can rage on, I have spoken to people who have the numbers. Others can believe what they read. I will believe what I am told by those who were there.

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Gee I provided links where they are stored on microfilm, all you have to do is fill out the paperwork and pay shipping.

As I have stated before, the SS records are not yet available on the internet.

So the best I can do is tell you where to get them.

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email taz she knows people who have all the numbers.

I know people with the numbers imprinted on their skin. I realize that doesnt fit your tin roil theory.

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pretty worthless, but then neither can you add, he would have been 20.

No, 1944 he became NCO, according to him.

He was born 1928.

"I was called up to serve in the emergency service as an airforce medic's helper with the Wehrmacht, when I was fourteen. The official drafting, I mean registration, followed later. ... I requested a confirmation from the War Archive because the kind of malicious discussion (within the ASBO, author) - above and beyond libel - angered me. There it can be seen that I already had an NCO rank as Truppfuehrer on September 16, 1944."

So, before the age of 16, he was an NCO, according to him. That isnt the only problem with his "memory"

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email taz she knows people who have all the numbers.

I know people with the numbers imprinted on their skin. I realize that doesnt fit your tin roil theory.

OMG no not tatoos!

oh the pain anguish and suffering that must have been! I know people that belch and fart a lot and never say anything conclusive that you can take to the bank.

so since you are the leading authority on the number we impatiently await your posting them after 75 years smelly ole farts.

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Document states no gassing occurred at the death camps.

Concentration Camp trials confirm that gassing of prisoners Jewish and other races did occur.

One document vs 56ft 11inches of microfilm, not to mention the trial records along with articles of evidence.

You figure it out.

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email taz she knows people who have all the numbers.

I know people with the numbers imprinted on their skin. I realize that doesnt fit your tin roil theory.

OMG no not tatoos!

oh the pain anguish and suffering that must have been! I know people that belch and fart a lot and never say anything conclusive that you can take to the bank.

so since you are the leading authority on the number we impatiently await your posting them after 75 years smelly ole farts.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

That link has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Keep trying.

Pst.. what happened to him being "20".

The fact that, according to one of his version, he was "drafted" at age 14 would have made him ineligible for the group n your link. Not to mention, they supposedly found him a very very sick child, then forced him to join the military. He accounting of his time in the military is laughable.

But, you stick with those tin hats.

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email taz she knows people who have all the numbers.

I know people with the numbers imprinted on their skin. I realize that doesnt fit your tin roil theory.

OMG no not tatoos!

oh the pain anguish and suffering that must have been! I know people that belch and fart a lot and never say anything conclusive that you can take to the bank.

so since you are the leading authority on the number we impatiently await your posting them after 75 years smelly ole farts.

Tattoos were only done in Auschwitz as a matter of history. The one thing you have said that is true, is that the Germans strived to keep meticulous records. However, that was not the case towards the end; they simply couldn't keep up.
yeh accrding to Jeff they burned the other 20 miles of records in all the camps but only on the polish side. dont you think that is odd.

In any case, originally, they took what we currently refer to as "mug shots." Three pictures, frontal and each profile side. Problem is that because of the conditions and the shootings, they quickly realized that when these people died, their facial characteristics had changed so much, they couldn't identify them by photographs. Photographing was also seen as being too expensive. So they switched to the tattoos. It was more cost effective, and it allowed them to identify the dead better.

As for the pain and suffering of a tattoo, that is something that even small children had to go through, and yes, for a child, having someone take away your identity like that is extremely painful, and extremely traumatic.
HAHAHAH and I am sure you have the testimony of all these tattooed children who have tatoo nightmares, damn you reach to any fucking depths of drama dont you

But of course, you no doubt have some flippant reason to dispute this as well.
aside from your personal comedy, well I suppose I could think of something

And neither Germany or Austria have been involved in telling people what religion they could practice before or after the Third Reich. The bullshit you are spouting can't be backed up. I gave you the exact article of the German Constitution to back up my statement. Or is the German Constitution fake as well?
its done by passing law
you see that is how big countries do it.
they dont say write a note on every corner saying you cannot practice your religion how over the top laughable is that.
they pass a law that says you have to accept the jewish ritual mowlah sacrifice as a fact

Holocaust, genocide, slaughter and massacre can all be seen as synonyms. Evakuieren and auszurotten are not synonyms, in either the German language or English.
no they dont where the hell did you get that loony idea from?

Considering you don't speak German, haven't been to Germany, have never seen a concentration camp or anything else other than on the internet....yea, you are wearing some serious tin foil on your head that blocks rational thought.

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The guy he testified for was convicted partially due to the lack of credibility of Lachout.

Certainly, since you claim to be an attorney, that isn't a difficult concept to understand.

Someone whose credibility is worthless is not likely telling the truth.

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so let's just say there were no gassing and burning (for the big fact is that none of us were there and have a 100% solid way of knowing for sure)- if a good number of people died in these camps from poor conditions (that many people in such close quarters ), that is still a death camp.

Clearly, these people were sent to die. Nobody could have been THAT oblivious to the unlivable conditions, and yet insisted on shipping more people in- in hopes things would work themselves out for the better.

This is just another way to look at it if somebody doesn't care for the blatant murder version.

Just my opinion looking at both sides.

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why would hitler waste his precious resources trucking jews all the way across the country just to exterminate them in a gas chamber instead of shooting them dead in france or the ukraine whatever? Why use the man power and the gas that there was such a shortage he had to make it from coal to cart jews thousands of miles just to gas them?

Now we have the local board zionists who would try to rationalize that loonacy but its totally ridiculous, yet these people insist that is what hitler did.

Hitlers resources were scarce, after all he had the whole world using their combined resources against his. How does that add up to luxurious housing?

The jews declared war on hitler what was he supposed to do with them?

You are the leader of a country and one of the factions within declare war on you what are you going to do sit back and say oh that ok dont shoot you in the back when I am walking down the street please?

try that here in the states and see how fast they come down on you in the modern day of 2013.

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Einsatzgruppen

Einsatzgruppen (German: "task forces";[1] "deployment groups"[2] singular Einsatzgruppe; official full name Einsatzgruppen der Sicherheitspolizei und des SD) were SS paramilitary death squads that were responsible for mass killings, typically by shooting. The units targeted Jews in particular, but also significant numbers of other population groups and political categories; including Gypsies, and Soviet political commissars. The Einsatzgruppen operated throughout the territory occupied by the German armed forces following the German invasions of Poland, in September 1939, and later, of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941. The Einsatzgruppen carried out operations ranging from the murder of a few people to operations which lasted over two or more days, such as the massacres at Babi Yar (33,771 killed in two days) and Rumbula (25,000 killed in two days). The Einsatzgruppen were responsible for the murders of over 1,000,000 people, and they were the first Nazi organizations to commence mass killing of Jews as an organized policy.
Einsatzgruppen

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he Einsatzgruppen were special SS mobile formations tasked with carrying out the mass murder of Jews, communist functionaries, and others deemed unfit to live by the Nazis.

They were first seen in action in Austria and the annexed parts of Czechoslovakia in 1938, as German forces occupied all (in the case of Austria) or certain regions (in the case of Czechoslovakia) of these countries in relatively peaceful annexations to the Reich.

For the Polish campaign in 1939, Reinhard Heydrich, Chief of Reich Security, formed 6 major Einsatzgruppen der Sicherheitspolizei; five of these units were attached to the advancing German army, whilst the other unit was designated for service in the Posen (Poznan) district.

The total strength of the Einsatzgruppen during the Polish campaign, was approximately 2,700 men. Their prime role was the arrest of the politically unreliable, confiscation of weapons, police intelligence and actions against Jews.

From 1 September to 25 October 1939, over 500 towns and villages were burned and over 16,000 people were executed by the Einsatzgruppen.

Far more infamous were the Einsatzgruppen which were formed in the spring of 1941 for the campaign against Russia. Adolf Hitler issued an order that the Security Police and Security Services would assist the army in combating resistance behind the front lines.

The Einsatzgruppen commanders were carefully selected by Heydrich from the best educated and most fanatical Nazis.

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WWII Captured German Records

This series consists of copies of records which were created by the German Geheime Staatspolizei (Gestapo) during World War II, captured by the U.S. military, and compiled and used after the war by the International Tracing Service and later the Departmental Records Branch's Captured Records Section. They include copies of German records: camp records, transport lists, and medical data cards. The camp records include inmate cards, death lists, and strength reports.

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yeh accrding to Jeff they burned the other 20 miles of records in all the camps but only on the polish side. dont you think that is odd.

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HAHAHAH and I am sure you have the testimony of all these tattooed children who have tatoo nightmares, damn you reach to any fucking depths of drama dont you

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its done by passing law
you see that is how big countries do it.
they dont say write a note on every corner saying you cannot practice your religion how over the top laughable is that.
they pass a law that says you have to accept the jewish ritual mowlah sacrifice as a fact

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Holocaust, genocide, slaughter and massacre can all be seen as synonyms. Evakuieren and auszurotten are not synonyms, in either the German language or English.
no they dont where the hell did you get that loony idea from?

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I do not reval saying that I do not speak german or that I have been to germany or that I have seen or not seen a camp.

yet you seem to think rational thought is a pile of bodies + a creamatorium + insecticide = ,ass gassing of people, how irrational is that?