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littlewonder -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 8:21:40 PM)

If I need a website to tell me someone is a fake on here, then I am a lot dumber than I thought and someone should should slap me upside the head and take my computer away from me.



EsotericLady -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 8:24:07 PM)

And these statistics are life-threateningly important because...............?
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ORIGINAL: Subano


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ORIGINAL: Notsweet
Only ten percent are NOT fakes, you say? I'm pretty sure I've met enough in person to say that would be awfully low....


I think the statistics will depend a LOT on what you're looking for.
If, for example, you want an under 30 submissive woman, it's probably less than 10% are real.

If, however, you are looking for an under 30 lesbian, the number (on Collarme) is probably 1% or less that are real.

However, if you're looking for an over 50 BBW, then the numbers would jump up to nearly 100%.

Again, just stating the obvious ...




EsotericLady -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 8:25:24 PM)

LMAO littlewonder!
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

If I need a website to tell me someone is a fake on here, then I am a lot dumber than I thought and someone should should slap me upside the head and take my computer away from me.





Subano -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 8:29:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw
I admit, I am known for going after people who steal photos of websites.
However, THAT doesn't make someone fake.
That makes them an idiot, thief and perhaps a photo collector but fake?
So yes, I call bullshit on that being proof or that site being a reliable way to determine who is "real".
Oh and um what about women like me who are in the lifestyle and do work on websites?
Are we "fake" because our photos are out there? Lol


OK. Now we're at the NEXT LEVEL of the conversation (our messages are crossing in the ether) about fake profile pictures.

Let's state both sides of the obvious first:
SIDE 1: Stealing a picture on the web in and of itself is merely a violation of Collarme TOS, and not proof of a fake profile.
SIDE 2: Stealing a picture of a porn star on the web and then passing yourself off AS THAT PORNSTAR, is a relatively obvious indication of a fake profile.

Again, please just LOOK at that section of the collarme fakes forum (i.e., the badly named TinEye section) before jumping to the conclusion that they're merely reporting stolen pictures.
Please do not respond back with the same comment until/unless you can show a URL of a fake picture posted TO THAT SECTION of the forum I'm talking about (using the word 'incontrovertible') which is actually of a profile NOT passing itself off as that stolen picture.

If you REALLY want to call BULLSHIT, then CALL BULLSHIT! Don't just 'say' it - prove it.

Take the last 30 posts in that section of that forum, and find for me a SINGLE POST that you would call bullshit on!
NOTE: I don't want you to have to do a lot of work other than simply clicking on 30 posts - so that's the reason for the arbitrary limit.

What I'm trying to call BULLSHIT on is the bullshit spouted here based on people's opinions which are clearly wrong.

PEOPLE: Before posting, please just LOOK at what I'm talking about (and somehow, verify in your response that you actually LOOKED at what I'm talking about).

Here is the URL, yet again:
http://www.collarmefakes.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=6




poise -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 8:30:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Subano


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ORIGINAL: poise
The images in my profile are not of me, are searchable on google, yet I'm not fake.
And what about the people who have scenic images from online travel agencies?


I'm sorry to have to say this but I think you totally missed my point.

I'm sorry to see you sorry about me missing your point, but the truth is, I wasn't responding to your point at all. [;)]



VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 8:30:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven


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ORIGINAL: Subano


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

There is no central repository of fake and real profiles



Actually, there is.

How accurate it is, is another issue - but simply put the word "fakes" after the collarme in the URL and you'll have that central repository of fakes.

Just saying ...


Yeah. That. Suffice it to say that at least one of the people in this thread is listed there as a fake.



At least 2:

http://www.collarmefakes.com/viewthread.php?tid=141&goto=search&pid=233

ETA; Im not trying to pass off myself as my picture, just sayin....



jlf1961 -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 8:33:57 PM)

Do they have something to tell not so good looking old geezer types who the real ones are that are into not so good looking old geezer types that love dogs and owns a small arsenal?

That might be something useful for some of us.



poise -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 8:34:29 PM)

I think RS did a much nicer rendition! [8D]



Notsweet -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 8:36:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Do they have something to tell not so good looking old geezer types who the real ones are that are into not so good looking old geezer types that love dogs and owns a small arsenal?

That might be something useful for some of us.


Where'd you say you live again?



Subano -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 8:42:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: EsotericLady
Anyone can be listed as a fake on some list because they told someone "no," or they called someone out on something they said, or because someone is ticked off at someone and wants revenge.
This paranoia about fakes, and photos, and profiles has been discussed AD NAUSEAM around here. I say it again "AD NAUSEAM!!!"


I'm sorry to have to be blunt here but it is clear that your mind is closed to what I am trying to say.
Or, maybe I'm just not saying it clearly.

From what you wrote, I can not tell if you even LOOKED at the 'other half' of that forum that I am talking about so I again will have to restate the obvious.

Even though this "paranoia about fakes" has been "discussed AD NAUSEAM", you yourself do not seem to understand (or even to have looked at) what I'm trying to show you.

Here: I'll make it easy for you:
1. Go to this URL: http://www.collarmefakes.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=6
2. Click on the last 30 (or so) posts in that forum.
3. Report back a SINGLE ONE which you would deem wrongly accused of being a profile clearly passing themselves off as the person depicted in the profile picture.

What I'm trying to get you to understand (and I'm sorry if I'm too stupid to get my point across to you) is that the proof is INCONTROVERTIBLE that these are fake profiles (defined, in that section, as people passing themselves off as the (stolen) pictures in that profile).

Please just CLICK on some of those links I am pointing to before saying that the proof is arbitrary:
Here is the link yet again: http://www.collarmefakes.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=6



Subano -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 8:49:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: poise
I'm sorry to see you sorry about me missing your point, but the truth is, I wasn't responding to your point at all. [;)]


Ooops! Mea culpa.

Maybe I should calm down ... :)

What irks me though is pre-formed opinions, that, IF APPLIED to that section of the forum that I'm talking about, are clearly wrong.

Now, if everyone wants to talk about the OTHER HALF of that forum, then I fully understand their opinions (about the arbitrary nature of the criteria).

So, I guess people should CLARIFY whether they're talking about this (relatively arbitrary) section of that forum: (forum ID = 3)
http://www.collarmefakes.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=3
Or if they're talking about this (relatively precise) section of that forum: (forum ID = 6)
http://www.collarmefakes.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=6

For the word "incontrovertible" to apply, I'm only talking about the last, say, 30 posts of the forum ID 6 part of that forum.



Subano -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 9:14:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha
http://www.collarmefakes.com/viewthread.php?tid=141&goto=search&pid=233


I clicked on that link, and I agree with you, which is why I kept saying that THAT HALF of the forum is what most people here seem to be talking about.
However, the OTHER HALF of that forum does show incontrovertible proof of the profiles which pass themselves off as being the person depicted in the profile where that picture is clearly proven to be a picture all over the web.

Each of the profiles I'm talking about starts with the following three lines (where I've redacted out the actual contact information):
1. CM tagline: username, tagline
2. CM profile: http://www.collarme.com/personals/REDACTED
3. CM picture: http://www.collarme.com/photos/REDACTED

And then, the profile shows line after line of PROVEN URLS of where the photo comes from.
And then, the profile shows a screenshot of the profile picture in addition to a screenshot of the PROOF that the picture is all over the web.

If that is not (almost) incontrovertible proof of the profile picture being fake, then it's going to be difficult to change anyone's opinion on this forum (simply because they won't LOOK to UNDERSTAND what I'm trying to say.)

PS: I snapped a screenshot of the number of views of what I'm pointing to when I started posting, and then kept looking at the number count as I posted, and, sadly, the number count of views is as follows:
http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12059220/img/12059220.png

TIME 1, latest 7 posts, view count (respectively) = 5, 11, 17, 26, 28, 26, 24
TIME 2, latest 7 posts, view count (respectively) = 5, 13, 17, 26, 28, 26, 24
TIME 3, latest 7 posts, view count (respectively) = 5, 13, 17, 26, 28, 26, 24
TIME 4, latest 7 posts, view count (respectively) = 5, 13, 17, 26, 28, 26, 24
TIME 5, latest 7 posts, view count (respectively) = 5, 13, 17, 26, 28, 26, 24
TIME 6, latest 7 posts, view count (respectively) = 5, 13, 17, 26, 28, 26, 24




Pyramus -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 9:21:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
If I need a website to tell me someone is a fake on here, then I am a lot dumber than I thought


I think there are the obvious fakes and the less-than-obvious fakes.
For the former, anyone with an IQ over 100 can easily dismiss them on sight; however, for the latter, it takes a bit of detective work.

Luckily, that detective work can be streamlined to consume less time than one would otherwise waste by actually responding to the profile.
Using that streamlined approach, I personally respond to perhaps something on the order of less than 1% of the profiles that I find appealing.

Just sayin'



EsotericLady -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 9:22:05 PM)

Subano? You don't have to restate ANYTHING to me concerning YOUR obvious. You also don't need to speak to me like I am a two year old, thank you!

Yes, I understand there is some online "fakes" list a person can go to if they have the time and inclination to check out whether someone is "fake" or not.

Did I go to the "other half" of that forum to look at this list you are so adamant about? NO

Will I follow your instructions, go to the URL, click on the last 30 profiles, and report back to you about them?
NOT on your life!

I don't need to understand that some profiles on a list are fake because quite frankly, I DON'T CARE !

As I said before, I don't need someone to tell me what is fake online and what isn't. I have my own experience, logic, and intuition that I use thank you. If YOU want to use some list that is just grand. But don't shove it in my face, thank you!


quote:

ORIGINAL: Subano

From what you wrote, I can not tell if you even LOOKED at the 'other half' of that forum that I am talking about so I again will have to restate the obvious.

Even though this "paranoia about fakes" has been "discussed AD NAUSEAM", you yourself do not seem to understand (or even to have looked at) what I'm trying to show you.

Here: I'll make it easy for you:
1. Go to this URL: http://www.collarmefakes.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=6
2. Click on the last 30 (or so) posts in that forum.
3. Report back a SINGLE ONE which you would deem wrongly accused of being a profile clearly passing themselves off as the person depicted in the profile picture.

What I'm trying to get you to understand (and I'm sorry if I'm too stupid to get my point across to you) is that the proof is INCONTROVERTIBLE that these are fake profiles (defined, in that section, as people passing themselves off as the (stolen) pictures in that profile).

Please just CLICK on some of those links I am pointing to before saying that the proof is arbitrary:
Here is the link yet again: http://www.collarmefakes.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=6




EsotericLady -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 9:27:29 PM)

People will never cease to amaze me, littlewonder!
quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Amazing how many paranoid folks there are around here lol





jlf1961 -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 9:30:45 PM)

I am not paranoid, I know for a fact that the CIA, FBI, NSA, Interpol, Centauri Secret Police and the cats around her are watching me planning my demise or disappearance.

Not to mention the anti gun lobby.



poise -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 9:34:47 PM)

I'm actually beginning to think you are in cahoots with the people that post over there,
as you are pretty adamant about posting the links any chance that you can.

What you fail to take into consideration is, we do not need to go there to see who the latest
fake is, because the majority of folks have enough common sense to figure these things out
on their own. Also, many of us here have been aware of sites such as tinyeye and google image
search before that site was created.

Please, simmer down. The OP really wasn't about people using fake pictures, as her complaint was
that the Dom in question refused to "expose himself" to her.



TheLilSquaw -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 9:34:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Subano

If you REALLY want to call BULLSHIT, then CALL BULLSHIT! Don't just 'say' it - prove it.






You're joking right? Lol
First of all I don't have to proof shit.

That site is still not verifiable proof that anyone is "fake".
One half of that site dictates the sites reputation as a whole.
So I can and will call BULLSHIT on the use of THAT site to verify someone being fake.

I will also say that if NEED that site to verify whether someone is "fake" or not then you need to step away from the computer.





VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 9:36:23 PM)

My bad. I followed your link. When I got to the tineye forum that the link landed on , I input my nick. I did not go anywhere else because that is what I found using the link you provided. I did not click the last 30 profiles.



TheLilSquaw -> RE: Fake people or real people that engage you (1/27/2013 9:37:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

My bad. I followed your link. When I got to the tineye forum that the link landed on , I input my nick. I did not go anywhere else because that is what I found using the link you provided. I did not click the last 30 profiles.



Well dang it you don't follow orders.
So you MUST be punished! hehehe



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