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ORIGINAL: Switcheroo1983

For those interested, no, I have never been to Iran, as Bisexual Pagans aren't well received, and, also for those interested, Persian is both an ethnic group and a language, Iranian is a nationality. Plenty of Iranians are not Persian.

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Oh? I would not know why, I mean considering they are fanatic about their religious leaders running the country. It is not like you are going to perform a virgin sacrifice in the center of Tehran, or are you?[:D]

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Somebody tell tazzy to quit being logical [:D]

Jeff: oh HELL no, no invasion.

I just have a great dislike for the extremists; and Iran should be a prosperous country, and our ally..

Thank god, that would take troops away from the trumped up war to invade the Playboy mansion.

.....I am thinking Mexico should be next. Too many 'illegals' plus we take and divvy up the oil amongst our great, glorious, free market [sic] oil oligoploy. Two birds with one stone hey ?

Kinkroids, we are not that far away. In great 'liberal' America during the 1973 arab oil embargo, I actually heard more than one person say...'We should just go over there and take it.'

The whole idea of entitlement and of course our inalienable right to a profit...means war baby.

Sorry, but I am in favor of getting away from fossil fuels and looking into sustainable sources to power our economy.

Of course of all the wars the US has been involved with the last decade, an invasion of Mexico to deal with the drug cartels could be justified.

Black Jack Pershing did it under orders to deal with Pancho Villa, and it is legal under the laws of the states for federal troops to patrol the borders, they were doing that up to around 1920-25 if memory serves.

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What if they come here and we are forced to abide by their laws and customs?

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ORIGINAL: Switcheroo1983
The Pastor likely knew exactly what he was getting himself into, but it doesn't make it right. Iran is under an oppressive regime, that's not exactly a secret.

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They have come here and have practiced their religion and have abided our laws and customs. I think the link says more about the oppression in Iran than their laws.

Butch

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Maybe we can do a Jack Bauer and trade this fella for the Rev.Terry Jones.....?

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Maybe we can do a Jack Bauer and trade this fella for the Rev.Terry Jones.....?

Why would they want that cunt?

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Have you tried to find a virgin to sacrifce these days? Sheesh!

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They have come here and have practiced their religion and have abided our laws and customs. I think the link says more about the oppression in Iran than their laws.

Butch

Wow, can't believe I missed this. Yes, we do come here. Yes, we do practice our faith/faiths. Yes, we do abide by the laws and customs. I am a Persian-American, I am very open about that. While I am not a Muslim, most of my father's family is. None of us are in prison, none of us are thugs, none of us practice honor killings, none of us plot/wage a holy war, and none of us advocate/practice Sharia.

There is so much fear in this country about those of us either from the Islamic world or descended from it. There is great fear of Islam. If you were to meet a Wahabi, I'd be amazed, and even more amazed if you met a Salafi. Those who think all Muslims are violent or Islam is by nature violent should research Sufism, which I myself flirted greatly with, and still find myself drawn to it.

There is nothing dark and mysterious about us. Most people who meet me assume I am Italian or maybe a lightly-skinned Hispanic, not understanding what a Persian is. When my grandparents came here as older children, their parents learned English (no such thing as a press 2 for Parsi option then) and faced great prejudice. My Grandparents embraced America. My Grandfather began pronouncing our surname deliberately incorrectly to make it more "American". He became an engineer. My Grandmother became a Chemist.

I can write on and on about those of us from/descended from the Islamic world. Right here, right now, a "Middle-Easterner" is talking to you all and posting pictures of scantily clad men and women, not condemning anyone or hurling insults. I have never in my life felt compelled to kill anyone, certainly not for "honor".

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So, if some Somalian came over to New York and cut his daughter's clit off, you don't think he should be prosecuted under the local law because he was acting under the dictates of his conscience, then?

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Iran's semi-official news agency, ISNA, quoted Abedini's attorney, Nasser Sarbazi, as saying his client stood trial in the Revolutionary Court on charges of attempting to undermine state security by creating a network of Christian churches in private homes.

The pastor, who is of Iranian origin but lives in Boise, Idaho, has rejected the charges.

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Just to be sure we are on the same page...My comments were not a criticism of Persians in America. Some in this thread seems to be defending Iran’s right to punish this man for doing what is encouraged and legal in the US. I think it is wrong and shows the suppression of human rights.

Butch

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Ah, there he is, back as his stint as a mod!