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JessN -> The Frenzies (1/28/2013 8:11:30 PM)

I was wondering as a Master how would you keep under control a submissive with the frenzies like they can't get enough, more more more, and go through withdrawal when they don't? I myself is going through this right now and do not know how to tell my Master/husband it feels or anything. It really is a very odd feeling that no matter how hard he pushes it just makes me crave it more.




muhly22222 -> RE: The Frenzies (1/28/2013 8:29:54 PM)

I would tell her to calm down. I'd make sure that we were both talking about what we wanted and how often we wanted it.

Since you're collared, I assume that means you and he have some expectation of this relationship lasting for some time. In that case, I would make sure to remind her that we don't have to do everything in the world of BDSM this week, that we have years in which to explore. I'd tell her to take her time, enjoy what she was doing, and not always be thinking about the next thing.




OsideGirl -> RE: The Frenzies (1/28/2013 8:46:33 PM)

Easy. We went at his desired pace rather than mine.




JessN -> RE: The Frenzies (1/28/2013 9:21:45 PM)

thank you, it is very hard to calm down but you are completely right.




littlewonder -> RE: The Frenzies (1/28/2013 10:48:11 PM)

It's called growing up and maturing and taking responsibility for your life. Ya know....self control.

If Master had to go through that kind of trouble with me all the time I highly doubt he'd be around anymore. Why would he want to make more work and headaches for himself?




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: The Frenzies (1/29/2013 3:20:58 AM)

Hi Jess!

I sort of know the feeling you are talking about. I don't know how long you've been doing this D/s thing, but when it was new to me I was all over the place with my emotions. I craved things which the sensible half of my brain knew were too extreme for me at the time. I thought about it constantly. I set up big expectations for myself at which I failed, miserably.

Sub frenzy is very common - common enough to have a name. So don't feel bad about yourself for going through this (you look ever so sad in your profile picture!). The important thing is that you know it is happening so you can keep watch on yourself. I found it helpful to use a time-out system. Whenever I found myself getting over stimulated, or my mind racing, or getting emotional about it, I would take myself to a quiet room or draw a bath and spend some time taking deep breaths and giving myself a little speech about being realistic. I would tell myself 'This is only one moment in my life. We have the rest of our lives together to work on this. There is no need to rush. I am still learning, I do not have to master everything from day one to be a good sub'. You could try whatever works for you. Sometimes he would remind me to go and do this, since it's sometimes hard to recognize in yourself when you need a time out. We still use this technique, only now it's something I use to deal with negative thoughts and anxiety.

So it's ok to feel it, just as long as you can find a method of keeping yourself under control so you don't do anything stupid as a result.

You might also find it helps to write erotic stories, or paint, or something to get your fantasies out so you can examine them and explore them in a different way.

You have an unusual set up in that you have a real-time Master and also online play with other doms. I would suggest trying not to go online when you are feeling like this. The unreal nature of online interactions can feed this feeling and make it harder to stay grounded - since in the online world you never see the other person sick, or lounging in their underpants in front of the tv, and there's never a cane stroke that misses target or an embarrassing noise or any of the other things you get in real life - so it's easier to get lost in the frenzy.

As for husband - just tell him, calmly and not in the bedroom, that you're having some big overwhelming feelings and you need to talk about them. I assume since you picked him as your Master he must be a good guy and will act in your best interests, even if that sometimes means not doing the dark things you are craving.

PS. This is personal so don't feel you have to answer this here: I still get days like this and it tends to happen when I am on my way into a manic phase. I don't know if your disability is along those lines, but it might be worth monitoring if there is a pattern here. It's good to know if this might be a sign of a particular emotional state so you can provide proper self-care.




DesFIP -> RE: The Frenzies (1/30/2013 7:56:36 PM)

First off, tell him what you're feeling. Because maybe he wants to go faster but is afraid that you couldn't handle it.

After that, I got an odd satisfaction in him being dominant and controlling the pace of play. Even though sometimes I really want what I want, I want him to be in control even more. So when he would tell me no, he didn't think I was ready for it, I would be happy knowing he couldn't be moved from what he thought was right.





LeatherBentOne51 -> RE: The Frenzies (2/1/2013 10:54:23 AM)

OP,
I once was with a submissive who had very much the same feelings and lacked self-discipline it those areas. I became tiresome "fighting her off" all the time and it eventually killed my desire to play with her. As a Domme, I prefer to always set the pace, and she was told beforehand and during our relationship. Eventually, I stopped playing with her altogether, and saw her as "too needy" for me. Nonetheless, we parted soon afterward and her behavior just prior was very unbecoming and downright ugly. She was unwilling or unable to express her feelings to me after several attempts on my part to resolve the issue.

Please dont let this happen to you.
LBO




Dyfrynt -> RE: The Frenzies (2/1/2013 11:50:52 AM)

It is the Master's responsibility to set the pace, not the slave's. Any slave who would attempt to control the pace, or constantly complain about it would suffer punishment and/or behavior modification.

If that did not correct the matter, I would suggest the two people involved are not compatible and should look for partners whose level of desire are more closely aligned.




MusicInstr78 -> RE: The Frenzies (2/1/2013 12:10:28 PM)

It has been ages since I have been Owned or had a Master, but sub/slave frenzy absolutely sucks!! It is what they want to do though...create in us that desire and need for them. The Master always sets the pace...I just follow. In the meantime keep yourself busy when apart...I write, do music, write music, listen to music, read, work-out and then work=out some more. I also do research and when not working I work more on recruitment with students. A M/s relationship is no different than any other, just more transparent and deeper. One has to let the other(The Master) lead this dance.




littlewonder -> RE: The Frenzies (2/1/2013 4:03:25 PM)

If you feel you really can't control yourself and you feel you are not getting enough of what you think you want and need, I guess your only choice would be to find someone who lacks the same self control and has the same hunger as you I suppose.

But personally, I would try the self control first. Maybe find a hobby, a job, hanging out with friends, going for a walk, reading a book, getting off the computer...that kinda stuff.




LeatherBentOne51 -> RE: The Frenzies (2/1/2013 4:42:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dyfrynt

It is the Master's responsibility to set the pace, not the slave's. Any slave who would attempt to control the pace, or constantly complain about it would suffer punishment and/or behavior modification.

If that did not correct the matter, I would suggest the two people involved are not compatible and should look for partners whose level of desire are more closely aligned.





Perhaps my post was unclear to you. I am a Domme, not a sub. Nor a Master. I am a female who only likes other females, not me. Therefore, I control the pace of my relationships.

LBO





Dyfrynt -> RE: The Frenzies (2/2/2013 11:10:23 AM)

Don't know why, and didn't even notice, that each new post is automatically stated as directed towards the previous one. Wasn't replying to you. Was replying after you. My post was directed at the OP.




LeatherBentOne51 -> RE: The Frenzies (2/8/2013 4:24:29 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Dyfrynt

Don't know why, and didn't even notice, that each new post is automatically stated as directed towards the previous one. Wasn't replying to you. Was replying after you. My post was directed at the OP.



No problem.




JeffBC -> RE: The Frenzies (2/8/2013 4:45:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: JessN
I was wondering as a Master how would you keep under control a submissive with the frenzies like they can't get enough, more more more, and go through withdrawal when they don't? I myself is going through this right now and do not know how to tell my Master/husband it feels or anything. It really is a very odd feeling that no matter how hard he pushes it just makes me crave it more.

What you are describing is an addictive response. So I might rephrase this question to "What would I do to control heroin craving in a heroin addict." The answer is I wouldn't let them have heroin anymore. If Carol were exhibiting this behavior I'd release her (insofar as I'm able) and steer our marriage very much towards vanilla pursuits of some sort or another. If I were not able to successfully release her (which I have not been in the past) I'd divorce her.




NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: The Frenzies (2/12/2013 4:26:36 PM)

I'm using pronouns as a Domme w/ a male sub: I would tell him that we are going at MY pace and not his. That would be how things go. If he didn't like it, too bad so sad. He can like it or leave. The thing is, sub frenzy is so common at first with new subs they even have a name for it, "sub frenzy." The good thing is, it usually goes away by itself after not too many weeks/months. The thing is, if you have someone else with a level head in control, that helps a lot. Like others have said, self-control helps a lot too. Eventually, it IS all going to come down to....self-control.

NBMG




Thaz -> RE: The Frenzies (2/13/2013 10:30:27 AM)

I deilvered the 'Sit the fuck down, shut up and listen to the shit you need to know' speech earlier this week to a lovely young thing who had a REALLY bad case. Warms the cockles of my heart.




Spiritedsub2 -> RE: The Frenzies (2/13/2013 3:12:35 PM)

- fast reply -

Just to be contrary, from the perspective of a new sub, that frenzied state is damned fun. Relish it while it lasts.




kiwisub12 -> RE: The Frenzies (2/14/2013 4:16:19 AM)

Have to admit - i agree. It is a blast - and ultimately unsustainable. I've been through it once, where i wanted to experience everything RIGHT NOW! It lasted 10 minutes, which was as long as it took my Sir to realise that i was ..... jonesing for more. He pretty much told me that we had years and calm the heck down. lol . So i did, since i wanted him pleased with me.

But in those 10 minutes he could have come up with anything and i would have gone along with it - and i was a supposidly mature woman. I'm thinking it would be a bit harder for a sweet young thing who doesn't have a lot of experience with self denial or putting off gratification. *sigh* i have more experience in both of those areas than i care for.......




Thaz -> RE: The Frenzies (2/14/2013 5:08:43 AM)

Fun but dangerous. Like many things the dangerous bit doesnt mean you shouldnt enjoy it just that its the Dom(mmes) duty to act as your guide and make sure its all good dirty safe fun. Which in and of itself makes me a happy guy.




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