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MariaB -> A little patience please. (1/29/2013 4:10:19 AM)

As a dyslexic, I have always found it hard to structure sentences. My punctuation is bloody abysmal and so is my spelling…. Thank goodness for spell check.
I have to admit, being online and typing as much as I do has hugely helped me in certain areas of written comprehension. I still get things wrong though and I still constantly worry about getting those things wrong.
One of the most difficult things for me is getting my thoughts down on paper. In my head I know exactly what I want to say but expressing it in the written word is often hopeless.
I can’t tell you how many posts I write and delete before posting. I sometimes read them out loud to my partner who more often than not says, ‘I didn’t understand a word of that’!! We are able to laugh about my odd tangents of the written word, as we are both dyslexic. I also have Dyspraxia, which makes things even more hilarious when I can’t pronounce a big word and sometimes can’t pronounce a simple one. People who know me would tell you that my speech is fluent and confident. They are right; it is fluid and confident providing I know to avoid certain words. It’s a little bit like someone who stutters avoiding all words beginning with ‘t’
Steve is a physicist and his background is engineering. His IQ is through the roof but its seldom he puts pen to paper unless its for a mathematical equation. I’m not so bright. He tells me I am which is kind of him but when it comes to keeping up with him I’m way back there.
And then of course we get the grammar and spelling pedants. I have been pulled up here far too often for grammatical mistakes. Only yesterday I was publicly belittled because of my paragraphs. My paragraphs are bloody awful and this is one thing that has just never improved no matter how much I write. I let it upset me, I shouldn’t but I do. I go away and dwell on it, question my intelligence before coming back here and hovering my finger of the ‘delete my account button’.
When you are dyslexic its very easy to spot other dyslexics. In general, Dyslexics will spend some time trying to get the spelling right and when they aren’t sure they have a tendency to use alternative words that they can spell. To someone else this often doesn’t read with any fluidity, especially if they have added or omitted words to modify its meaning.
I was diagnosed with Dyslexia and Dyspracxia at 13. Steve was diagnosed with dyslexia at 15 both of us were in the dunces class at school up until our diagnosis, both of us have been given an enormous amount of help and encouragement from the Dyslexic society, universities and colleges we attended. Both of us are over sensitive about our intelligence or lack of it. It’s easy to get paranoid, especially when you fail at something.

If we read something and we notice odd grammatical terms or strange spellings but we comprehend what that person is saying, should we pull them up publicly?
Do you really believe that Dyslexic people are so because they are lazy or just need to take an English class?
I know a lot of people claim to be Dyslexic when they haven’t been diagnosed and I believe there are far more undiagnosed Dyslexics than diagnosed ones.

Can we all be just a little more patient?



Level -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 4:29:24 AM)

Patience isn't always in great supply, but if I know someone's making an honest effort to communicate, then I try to make an effort to understand them.

A well intended suggestion: make sure your paragraphs are seperate, that makes it much easier to read.



ARIES83 -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 4:51:53 AM)

Maria,
I've never noticed anything about your writing
that would hint at any kind of trouble with it,
you've come across as smart and sensible.

Sometimes trying to get something on paper
that does justice to my feelings is like hacking
through a jungle, there is definitely a barrier to
push through for me aswell, but it's worth it, I'm
a firm believer that the more you struggle to do
something, the better you get at it, and the
better you become.

And I totally relate to working on your spelling
and grammar by using the forum and spellcheck.

What prompted this topic?




MariaB -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 4:55:36 AM)

I understand what you are saying Level but the problem starts with knowing where to put a paragraph!!
Ask me how to measure the speed of light or give me a mathematical problem and I will happily work out the answer.
Ask me when I should put a paragraph into a piece of text and you will have me scratching my head [:)]



MariaB -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 5:16:34 AM)

I think you are right about the struggle Airies. Its about learning to spot mistakes. I know that I have improved enormously over the years and I will never accept that my written word can't continue to improve. It has to be about my own expectations though an not someone else's expectations of me.
I speak French and sound like a fisherman's housewife! In other words, I learnt my French from speaking and being with French people. I have never sat down in a classroom to learn French, if I did I think I would be exasperated.



jlf1961 -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 5:25:44 AM)

Maria, you have actually a reason for making spelling and grammar mistakes, of which I have seen none.

As for a paragraph, each paragraph deals with a different subject related to the opening sentence. Just try to remember that, and it will get easier.

Now, I on the other hand have a major problem dictated by birth, and where I was raised.

Genetically I have both Yankee and Southern blood broke down to Cherokee, Chiricachua Apache, Dutch, Welsh and Irish, and Norman blood, then was raised in Arizona, Germany, Hawaii, Texas, Arkansas, and back to Texas, so I basically picked up every bad habit of writing and speaking one could possibly pick up.

Since most of my raising took place in Texas, I learned instinctively to butcher any language with universal effectiveness to the point of leaving the listener confused and bewildered to the point of near insanity.

Now as for your math skills, I will keep those in mind until I can find a theoretical physicist and research engineer so that you and the other two can combine skills and solve the Alcubierre equations and a way to harness dark energy to build a warp drive craft so that I can get off this rock.



Level -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 6:10:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MariaB

I understand what you are saying Level but the problem starts with knowing where to put a paragraph!!

Ask me how to measure the speed of light or give me a mathematical problem and I will happily work out the answer.

Ask me when I should put a paragraph into a piece of text and you will have me scratching my head [:)]



See how I seperated each of the 3 sentences above? I'm not trying to be snarky, and I'll be the first to admit that I don't know much about being dyslexic. Anyway, you do a pretty good job, so don't be discouraged.



TheLilSquaw -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 6:11:42 AM)

Maria,

You can not let the grammar and spelling nazi's get to you.
Heck, yesterday a chick made her 1st and only post to correct a spelling error in a post of mine.

To ME it's not about me, my spelling errors or typos its about THEM.
It's about them needing find something to make themselves feel better even if that thing is pointing out a perceived flaw in someone else.

I have always enjoyed reading your posts.
I don't find them hard to read or even understand.
I see paragraphs in your posts all you need to do is hit return one more time to give that break between them.




Toysinbabeland -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 6:17:27 AM)

Maria,
You write better than many. You have one thing that sets you apart, and that is the desire to do your best.
That is what matters.



theshytype -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 6:36:23 AM)

I know a few people who have dyslexia or dyspraxia and I see their struggles. I don't have either but at times my mind runs a mile-a-minute and all I can do is scribble all the thoughts down and try to piece them together. So I can only imagine what you're going through.
As for your posts, nothing stands out to me. From what I can tell, as little as I have been on here, you've always had well written comments.
I'm a grammar freak and often times find myself editing over enjoying content, but not here. People still make mistakes, especially myself. I don't think anyone will ever win an award for having the best written replies on a message board. It only bothers me when the whole post has such horrible grammar that it does not make sense at all and is not clear what point the writer is trying to make. But I'm not going to persecute them for it.



ashjor911 -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 6:40:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MariaB

Can we all be just a little more patient?



just you know i am not a native English speaker.. & i got a lot of mistakes
someone here on the forums laugh about me typing (toke) i was trying to say took. " i did laugh about it a few weeks later"

however, i may speak for my self, here & yes we can. " not the obama thing"[:D]



DarkSteven -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 7:15:03 AM)

Maria, I've never had a problem reading your posts. Except that the pic of the purty woman to the left of them is distracting.



MariaB -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 8:20:19 AM)

jif, I just roared with laughter when I read your post. You have a great way with words [:D].


Level, the embarrassing thing is and it really is embarrassing, you can tell me this today and I will think I've taken it on board but tomorrow I will make the same mistakes!
My eldest son has Dysgraphia which is related to Dyslexia (Unfortunately its hereditary) Numbers or formulas are incomprehensible to him. I will read out a number to him and he will write it down in a jumble. Today I can say to him, this is how you get from here to here and I know he's got it but tomorrow is a different story.



NuevaVida -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 8:23:09 AM)

Criticisms very rarely have anything to do with the person they're directed at, and more to do with the one doing the criticizing. Understanding this has allowed me to learn not to take criticisms from others personally, unless they come from a place of compassionately trying to help.

When I DO take something personally, it is because I haven't accepted and/or embraced that part of me yet, so I take that as an opportunity to examine it, and work through it.

I recommend the same for others.

That said, I always understand your posts, and in my opinion that the message coming through is more important than the structure in which they're presented. Those who choose to focus on structure, punctuation, and grammar risk missing out on the message, but that's their choice and priority to make; it has nothing to do with you. You just keep doing your best, feel good about it, and don't internalize the critics. Learn from them if you wish, but try not to personalize the insults, it's not productive, and it's not being kind to yourself :)



EsotericLady -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 8:41:26 AM)

THIS IS MARVELOUS!! (And I couldn't agree more!)

I've never found your posts to be lacking, Maria. No worries to you...... : )
quote:

ORIGINAL: Toysinbabeland

Maria,
You write better than many. You have one thing that sets you apart, and that is the desire to do your best.
That is what matters.




MariaB -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 8:52:34 AM)

Thanks LilSquaw, like you, I have often wondered why someone would write a post just to point out a spelling or grammatical error. I think its perhaps a form of OCD.

Im starting to feel like I'm fishing for compliments now because you are all being so nice to me and reassuring me that I'm doing fine. Well I'm glad you are reassuring me, thanks, but seriously, this post is based on me and my experience but not necessarily about me.

theshytype, I can't tell you how many times I recognize myself in other peoples poorly written posts and to watch these people get a rollicking, when in actual fact the post is perfectly comprehendable. Its upsetting, at least for me and yet I know what you mean because when it comes to science and maths (we say maths, you say math!) I find myself looking for other peoples mistakes!

People tell you that Dyslexia is a gift. Its not, it really is a bloody great hindrance that slows you down and makes you feel like an idiot. I am always being told about the famous people with Dyslexia as though thats going to somehow console you [8|] I always say 'tell me about all famous people who don't have Dyslexia'

Thanks to all of you for taking time to respond to my post.
Oh and Stephen, Im glad my picture distracts you [;)]



mnottertail -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 9:01:51 AM)

I have always enjoyed your posts, and your brain stem, MariaB.  I often misspell due mostly to going to fast, or because of carpal tunnel making my hands move wrong, but I do have some OCDs about spelling... and if one comes off as pontificating some elite knowledge of some self important asswipe, I will point out that their spelling errors, among other things.

One of my OCDs is ad nauseam.  it is not ad nauseum.
I know what it sounds like when you say it, but:

It means: to nauseA
It does not mean:  to nauseU.

Even PhDs get that wrong.

And I think that both Moonhead and I are a little OCD over the word cohort.  Whether you have one or a hundred, it is still a cohort.   Just like you have moose and moose, you do not have mooses or mice.

But that one is a losing battle, since it is being watered down in its meaning, and cohortS is now semi acceptable English through common usage............God save the King, because nobody will save the cohort.     



Level -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 9:07:45 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MariaB

jif, I just roared with laughter when I read your post. You have a great way with words [:D].


Level, the embarrassing thing is and it really is embarrassing, you can tell me this today and I will think I've taken it on board but tomorrow I will make the same mistakes!



Just do your best, and we'll stick with you.



absolutchocolat -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 9:11:12 AM)

I'm with DS, you are smoking hot. Plus, you always have something meaningful to add to the discussions around these parts. [:)]



DaddySatyr -> RE: A little patience please. (1/29/2013 9:23:24 AM)

If I can help?

I haven't really noticed an issue, per se but since you brought this up, maybe I can help a bit.

I'm about the opposite end of the spectrum so, please take this as it is meant; a good faith effort to be helpful.

Knowing when to seperate paragraphs is really fairly simple. A praragraph is a group of sentences that are like their own little subject within a written piece. It consists of a topic sentence (the first sentence) and the rest of the sentences are ideas that support the main theme of the topic sentence.

If I can give an exapmle:

One of the strangest mamals in the world is the platypus. It has a bill like a duck, a tail like a beaver, and feet, kind of like a racoon. Aside from all of that the platypus is one of only two mamals that feeds milk to its young but does not bear their young, live. That's right, their young originate from eggs and hatch (including an egg tooth on their bill), looking to be nourished by their mom's milk.

By contrast, most rodents - particularly elephant shrews - are quite possibly "quintessential" mamals as they are born live and usually rival their parents size, development and skills within weeks. In fact, common field mice are ready to reproduce five weeks after being born.

Okay, so the main topic could be considered to be "Mamals". The first paragraph deals with one of the strangest examples of mamalia and the second deals with one of the most typical. Both paragraphs, while about the same subject (Mamals) cover very different ideas about the discussion.

I hope this was helpful. Bon chance, Madame Femme Jolie!



Peace and comfort,



Michael



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