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jlf1961 -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/6/2013 11:39:59 PM)

Why is it when klansmen hold up signs demanding the return of their country, it is news worthy...

When Native Americans do it, no one cares.




DaisyDew -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 2:41:17 AM)

If Mr. Connery is black, I guess I must be color blind. LOL




Nosathro -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 6:27:02 AM)

Well I just joined the AARP...




BamaD -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 8:39:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
The main growth has been up north...

Historically, at the time the KKK was politically the strongest (the 1920's), the state that had the largest % of it population in the KKK was Indiana. (my source: Hooded Americanism by David M. Chalmers, 1965)

But, as Owner59 posted, most folks don't care where the bigots are from - they care that they exist anywhere in the United States.

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A bigot is a bigot no matter where he is from, I just get tired of the idea that we have a klansman on every corner here when it is stronger in "more proggresive " parts of the country. Sorry if I left the impression that I think southern bigots are any better than the northern variety.




BamaD -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 8:43:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Why is it when klansmen hold up signs demanding the return of their country, it is news worthy...

When Native Americans do it, no one cares.

Obviously a retorical question but for the slow thinkers, the people who decide what is newsworthy see the klansman as a serious threat and use him to tar all conservatives, As for the native American, they ran that bstory in the 70s and consider it old news.




Nosathro -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 2:46:10 PM)

Speaking about the KKK they don't seem to be happy about Parks being renamed, especially one park that was orginally named after one of their founders.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=8984485




BamaD -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 6:49:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
The main groth has been up north where, we are told everyone is open minded.


Care to cite where you got that from because I find that surprising?


He has to first properly spell "growth".

Sorry about the typo




jlf1961 -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 7:33:35 PM)

Houston, we have a problem.

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the NRA is not a hate group.

However any group with "Enemies" Lists this long, if it is not a hate group, then just what is it?




punisher440 -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 7:46:58 PM)

Jeff,be careful throwing out facts,they only daze and confuse him...[8|]




Kirata -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 9:03:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

However any group with "Enemies" Lists this long, if it is not a hate group, then just what is it?

I would say it's a special interest group advising its members of "organizations [that] have lent monetary, grassroots or some other type of direct support to anti-gun organizations," "prominent national corporations [that] have lent their corporate support to gun control initiatives," "publications and media outlets [that] have assisted in the attack on Second Amendment rights," and "celebrities and national figures [that] have lent their name and notoriety to anti-gun causes."

Just as other special interest groups have done for different causes. But, of course, if your only interest is stirring up shit, then you can brand the information an "enemies list," and the organizations, corporations, and celebrities thereon as just honest folk opposed to "gun violence," thereby painting the NRA as a bunch of nuts who support "gun violence". Or if you really want to go for broke, you can equate them to the KKK. After all, libel is just good righteous fun. Eh?

K.




imdoingitagain -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 9:28:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Houston, we have a problem.

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the NRA is not a hate group.

However any group with "Enemies" Lists this long, if it is not a hate group, then just what is it?

Perhaps the biggest problem we seem to be having is no where does the NRA say this an "Enemies list."
It is a logical fallacy to arbitrarily decide that it is an "enemy list" and then from there conclude that they are a "Hate Group" because said enemy list is so long.




jlf1961 -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 9:30:51 PM)

Someone care to explain what the YWCA did to the NRA to get em pissed?




tazzygirl -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 9:55:02 PM)

So is this list a guideline for NRA members to boycott the people and the products of companies on it?

If that’s the case, NRA loyalists can’t buy Levi's, because Levi Strauss is on the list. They shouldn’t cheer for the Kansas City Royals or the St. Louis Rams -- as Yahoo Sports points out, the teams didn’t like the idea of a Missouri state law letting people “pack heat at ballgames.” No vacations for them at Silver Dollar City attractions in Branson, Mo., either; the company has posted “no firearms” signs for visitors.

In fact, there are an awful lot of Missouri businesses on the NRA’s list, such as Hallmark cards. The state that was the fulcrum of pre-Civil War slavery disputes now seems to be a battleground again, over gun safety laws. Some Missouri sheriffs are endorsing the sentiments in a letter sent to the White House by one of their number who told President Obama that he would “most certainly urge my fellow sheriffs in the state of Missouri and across this great nation to rise to the defense and aid of all Americans should the federal government attempt to enact any legislation or executive order that impedes, erodes or otherwise diminishes their constitutional right to keep and bear arms.” In other words, “make me.”

(Why, I wonder, is every other amendment to the Constitution subject to constitutionally sound limits and qualifications, when the one amendment that expressly contains its own limits and qualifications -- the part about the well-ordered militia -- is considered by its more hysterical adherents to be beyond any legal or judicial review or revision?)

NRA members might have to drop their Blue Cross/Blue Shield coverage because it is on the list too.

.......

So many of these names are just head-scratchers. C. Everett Koop, the pediatric surgeon and Ronald Reagan’s surgeon general. The AARP. The YWCA. The National Assn. of Chain Drug Stores. (What is that beef? Did they decide against selling banana clips in the dental-floss aisle?)

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-nra-enemies-list-britney-hallmark-and-the-ywca-20130205,0,3908128.story

The NRA keeps so many scores of groups in its sights as anti-gun-control that it beggars belief. Among them are the American Academy of Pediatrics, the United Methodist Church, the American Civil Liberties Union, the American Jewish Congress, the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom, the YWCA, and Physicians for Social Responsibility. Those from the creative arts named include Bruce Springsteen, Alec Baldwin, Jerry Seinfeld, Matt Damon, Kyra Sedgwick, and Maya Angelou, to name but a few.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/Jamie-Stiehm/2013/02/05/put-me-on-the-nras-enemies-list

• AARP;
• AFL-CIO;
• American Medical Association;
• American Bar Association;
• American Jewish Committee;
• Anti-Defamation League;
• B`nai B`rith;
• Children`s Defense Fund;
• Environmental Action Foundation;
• Episcopal Church;
• Lauder Foundation;
• League of Women Voters of the United States;
• National Association of Police Organizations;
• National Coalition Against Domestic Violence;
• National Association for the Advancement of Colored People;
• National Council of La Raza;
• National Urban League;
• National Spinal Cord Injury Association;
• Southern Christian Leadership Conference;
• U.S. Catholic Conference;
• United Methodist Church;
• United Church of Christ;
• U.S. Conference of Mayors;
• and the YWCA of the USA.

I ask this in all seriousness: Who's left?

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/06/opinion/avlon-nra-enemy-list/index.html

A possible reason for the YWCA... back from the 1970's.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1913&dat=19730720&id=c_JGAAAAIBAJ&sjid=nvMMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1027,2504143

The YWCA USA is an organizational member of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, which advocates gun control.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_YWCA

So, the AMA and the Bar Association. Does that mean they cant see doctors or hire lawyers?




tazzygirl -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 9:58:07 PM)

ooooooooo and look... the Southern Baptist Convention agrees with gun control too. Does this mean no church for NRA members either?

http://abpnews.com/culture/social-issues/item/8158-sbc-leader-supports-gun-control#.URSThh1EHv5




Kirata -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 10:02:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

Well I just joined the AARP...

American Association of Role Players?

K.




jlf1961 -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/7/2013 10:35:50 PM)

I just joined the militant front for the rebuilding of Pangea.

We want all countries to stop spending money on the military and spend it on finding a way to move tectonic plates back to where they were when pangea was the only continent on the planet.




Nosathro -> RE: Is the NRA a Hate Group? (2/8/2013 8:17:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

Well I just joined the AARP...

American Association of Role Players?

K.



The American Association of Retired Persons, which is on the NRA enemies list. Now does this get me on the NRA enemies list, please spell my last name correctly. American Association of Role Players are the Gamers, which reminds me, tickets for Comic-Con are going on sale soon, so you better have the $175.00 ready, I'll be nice, do you need the link? We sold out of tickes last year in less then 10 minutes, all 250,000 of them.




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