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Baroana -> NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 2:58:11 PM)
http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/state/new_jersey/20130202_ap_njschoolimplementsnocursingpledgeforgirls.html Thoughts? The part that really pushes my buttons is the quote from the teenage boy about how girls are "unattractive" when they curse. [sm=whoa.gif] Oh, I'm sorry, was I being unattractive??? I forgot that my number one job in life is to be attractive to males! Article text: NORTH ARLINGTON, N.J. - Female students at a Catholic high school in northern New Jersey have taken a "no-cursing" pledge at the request of school administrators, though some question why no such demand was made of male students. Lori Flynn, a teacher who organized the campaign at Queen of Peace High School in North Arlington, told The Record of Woodland Park (http://bit.ly/XPsaJd) there is no double-standard. She says that while males weren't asked to take the vow, they have been asked not to swear when girls are near. Flynn says school officials want "ladies to act like ladies." And Brother Larry Lavallee, the school's principal, says girls have the foulest language. Many girls said they would try to follow the pledge they took Friday morning, even though they believe it should apply to all students. Sixteen-year-old Kaitlin McEnery said the pledge is a "good idea," but believes that "putting it into action is the problem." And classmate Dana Cotter, 16, thought that male students should join the pledge because "boys should be more like gentlemen." Teachers said they hoped that if the girls focused on cleaning up their speech on campus for a month, their improved manners would take hold and rub off on the boys. They timed the initiative to Catholic Schools Week and the old-fashioned romance of Valentine's Day, promising lollipops as rewards and handing out pins showing a red slash through a pair of pink lips. "It's unattractive when girls have potty mouths," said Nicholas Recarte, 16. A pitcher on the school's baseball team, Recarte said he can't help shouting obscenities from the mound after mishaps, and he didn't expect that to change. Information from: The Record (Woodland Park, N.J.), http://www.northjersey.com

masmiss -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 3:23:23 PM)
Waaaay back in the olden days when I was a student in a Catholic elementary school a few of the girls were hanging out in the schoolyard during recess. Two of the girls started a whistling competition. A nun, overhearing this, came up to the small group and chastised them for whistling by stating that "the Blessed Mother weeps when she hears little girls whistle". I asked my devout grandmother about this. My granny, an uneducated but extremely wise woman, told me "the Blessed Mother has far more important things to worry about than if little girls are whistling." Mind you, this took place in the 60s when it might be expected that religious schools could be a bit over the top in enforcing traditional gender roles. But, in 2013?? I'm appalled. BTW, I often curse like a sailor. [:D]

DesideriScuri -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 3:55:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Baroana http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/state/new_jersey/20130202_ap_njschoolimplementsnocursingpledgeforgirls.html Thoughts? The part that really pushes my buttons is the quote from the teenage boy about how girls are "unattractive" when they curse. [sm=whoa.gif] Oh, I'm sorry, was I being unattractive??? I forgot that my number one job in life is to be attractive to males! Article text: NORTH ARLINGTON, N.J. - Female students at a Catholic high school in northern New Jersey have taken a "no-cursing" pledge at the request of school administrators, though some question why no such demand was made of male students. Lori Flynn, a teacher who organized the campaign at Queen of Peace High School in North Arlington, told The Record of Woodland Park (http://bit.ly/XPsaJd) there is no double-standard. She says that while males weren't asked to take the vow, they have been asked not to swear when girls are near. Flynn says school officials want "ladies to act like ladies." And Brother Larry Lavallee, the school's principal, says girls have the foulest language. Many girls said they would try to follow the pledge they took Friday morning, even though they believe it should apply to all students. Sixteen-year-old Kaitlin McEnery said the pledge is a "good idea," but believes that "putting it into action is the problem." And classmate Dana Cotter, 16, thought that male students should join the pledge because "boys should be more like gentlemen." Teachers said they hoped that if the girls focused on cleaning up their speech on campus for a month, their improved manners would take hold and rub off on the boys. They timed the initiative to Catholic Schools Week and the old-fashioned romance of Valentine's Day, promising lollipops as rewards and handing out pins showing a red slash through a pair of pink lips. "It's unattractive when girls have potty mouths," said Nicholas Recarte, 16. A pitcher on the school's baseball team, Recarte said he can't help shouting obscenities from the mound after mishaps, and he didn't expect that to change. Information from: The Record (Woodland Park, N.J.), http://www.northjersey.com I,for one, applaud the pledge. I think it is a great thing that girls are being asked to clean up their mouths. When I was in HS, I thought the girls were less appealing with potty mouths, too. There is only one thing that would make this a better pledge, imo... they could have the girls pledge to keep their legs... NOT!! I do think this pledge should be forced on the boys, too.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 3:58:45 PM)
There is a time and a place for cursing obsceneties - whether male or female. And a school isn't one of them! In most of our schools, you'd get some sort of detention or suspension if you are caught swearing - and a letter to take home to your parents!! As for an oath applying only to the girls - where is the sexual equality??? If I were one of the girls I would have brought that up. Over here, something like that is actually illegal to enforce because of the European sexual equality laws. Maybe you could use something of what we have? Sometimes the law is an ass and we do complain about it. But just sometimes, it's a blessing in disguise [:D]

DesideriScuri -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 4:16:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 There is a time and a place for cursing obsceneties - whether male or female. And a school isn't one of them! In most of our schools, you'd get some sort of detention or suspension if you are caught swearing - and a letter to take home to your parents!! As for an oath applying only to the girls - where is the sexual equality??? If I were one of the girls I would have brought that up. Over here, something like that is actually illegal to enforce because of the European sexual equality laws. Maybe you could use something of what we have? Sometimes the law is an ass and we do complain about it. But just sometimes, it's a blessing in disguise [:D] My oldest son's baseball coach will sit a boy he hears cursing, regardless of who the player is. He has pulled both his own son, and the best player on the team for sportsmanship problems.

WyrdRich -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 4:17:47 PM)
Some might believe the casual use of foul language contributes to the coarsening of our culture, and encourages the general moral decline of our society. Some might believe that positive social and peer pressure could be a way to tone it down. Don't like it? Don't send your kids there. Otherwise, I think this falls very much within the category of free speech. Personally, I like it when women talk dirty as fuck, under the proper circumstances.

WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 6:14:42 PM)
Yup should apply to both girls and boys, no question when the language of the boys would contribute to the school environment.

tazzygirl -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 6:24:57 PM)
quote: Brother Larry Lavallee, the school's principal, says girls have the foulest language. Queen of Peace High School Principal Brother Larry Lavallee will step down from his position effective June 2013. Lavallee has been a principal at the North Arlington Catholic School since 2008.

Level -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 8:16:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: Brother Larry Lavallee, the school's principal, says girls have the foulest language. Queen of Peace High School Principal Brother Larry Lavallee will step down from his position effective June 2013. Lavallee has been a principal at the North Arlington Catholic School since 2008. I can only guess at the number of "fuck you, good riddance" comments that will be uttered towards him come June.

tazzygirl -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 8:17:22 PM)
LOL maybe this was his own "fuck you" good bye salute

Aylee -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 8:23:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl LOL maybe this was his own "fuck you" good bye salute No, I do not think so. This sounds more like he is one of the believers in, "women are the civilizing parts of a civilization." If that is his thinking, I would like to see him have the boys take a pledge to watch their language around women and children.

tazzygirl -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 8:28:09 PM)
I can see his motives... I cant see them being able to enforce this as any kind of policy. This is a throw back to the 50's (Im in no way putting down those who enjoy that lifestyle as a kink) But these are not consenting adults but minors who are given no choice.

littlewonder -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/2/2013 8:29:15 PM)
I'm fine with it. The girls are not being forced to sign this pledge. It's their perogative. I'd say if the boys want to start such a pledge as well, good for them. It just so happens that the girls started this one themselves it seems. It's not the school that is doing this. It was a teacher who took the initiative.That doesn't mean another teacher can't take the initiative for the boys or the boys can't start their own. Personally yeah, being a girl with a potty mouth is unattractive. It's unattractive with boys too but imo, when I hear a girl cursing, I get a picture of a girl who was raised around boys or was taught to act like a boy or is trying to act all hot shit because she thinks that boys are attracted to such stuff or they were raised in a rough neighborhood.

WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/3/2013 6:23:13 AM)
Well hope da pledge will bring to an end this sorta thang http://xhamster.com/movies/538645/malin_akerman_the_heartbreak_02.html#! [:D]

EsotericLady -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/4/2013 4:01:32 PM)
Their perogative? Hmm...it was requested by the school administrators. (note the word "demand" in the same sentence. The girls didn't start it themselves, it was a teacher who organized it, fed by school officials and the friar's feelings about it. No that doesn't mean another teacher can't start one for the boys. But when the boys are "asked" not to swear when girls are near, they of course won't. Swearing is caused by example, not whether you were raised by boys. CHildren raised where swearing is commonplace learn that swearing is alright, and becomes a part of their everyday language. quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder I'm fine with it. The girls are not being forced to sign this pledge. It's their perogative. I'd say if the boys want to start such a pledge as well, good for them. It just so happens that the girls started this one themselves it seems. It's not the school that is doing this. It was a teacher who took the initiative.That doesn't mean another teacher can't take the initiative for the boys or the boys can't start their own. Personally yeah, being a girl with a potty mouth is unattractive. It's unattractive with boys too but imo, when I hear a girl cursing, I get a picture of a girl who was raised around boys or was taught to act like a boy or is trying to act all hot shit because she thinks that boys are attracted to such stuff or they were raised in a rough neighborhood.

fucktoyprincess -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/4/2013 5:07:18 PM)
Well, it's a Catholic school, so I'm not surprised that there is a rule that is imposed on the girls that is not imposed on the boys. Is this any surprise? As for swearing in general - I think it is very much a matter of time and place. And school is a place where I feel there should be lower tolerance for swearing rather than more. After all, most work environments don't actually support a lot of swearing. Schools should reflect that. These students go out into a world where even if they swear privately with their friends, they don't swear on the job, to superiors/bosses, to employees, to customers, etc., etc., etc. So trying to teach the concept of time and place seems perfectly acceptable to me.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/4/2013 6:17:55 PM)
Sluts.

BamaD -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/5/2013 12:04:02 AM)
Bottom line, it is a private school, as someone posted earlier if the parents don't like it they don't have to send their kids there, and yes, it should apply to the boys too. If the girls aren't to cuss they should not be subjected to cussing. Of course some kids will start just because it is banned.

EsotericLady -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/5/2013 7:39:11 AM)
And here I thought there should be a lower tolerance for swearing everywhere, silly me!!! quote: ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess As for swearing in general - I think it is very much a matter of time and place. And school is a place where I feel there should be lower tolerance for swearing rather than more.

slvemike4u -> RE: NJ school implements 'no-cursing' pledge for girls (2/5/2013 12:26:01 PM)
The word "lower" implies relativity,as in "lower than ". So there being a "lower tolerance for swearing everywhere" begs the question......lower than what ?

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