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defiantbadgirl -> accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 6:53:16 AM)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57568327/accused-witch-burned-alive-in-papua-new-guinea-as-crowd-including-kids-watch/

Hundreds of witnesses couldn't stop it? Despite all the pictures, nobody has been arrested? WTF




WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 7:25:55 AM)

yep a pretty strange story. da failure of da police to act may be part of da cultural problem.

quote:

Deputy Police Commissioner Simon Kauba on Friday blasted Mount Hagen investigators by phone for failing to make a single arrest, Kakas said.

The public were apparently not cooperating with police, and police carrying out the investigation were not working hard enough, Kakas said.

Kakas said onlookers were shocked by the brutality but were powerless to stop the mob. Police officers were also present but were outnumbered and could not save the woman, he said. There is an internal investigation underway into what action police at the scene took.


wonder though how da evidence would be produced in da proposed witch trials? lol




muhly22222 -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 7:27:44 AM)

Just because there are hundreds of witnesses doesn't mean that anybody is willing to condemn the people who did it. Approval and fear are both powerful motivators to not speak to the authorities and identify the perpetrators.

It's unfortunate, but that is one of the side effects of a mob taking the law into their own hands.




WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 7:38:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: muhly22222
Just because there are hundreds of witnesses doesn't mean that anybody is willing to condemn the people who did it. Approval and fear are both powerful motivators to not speak to the authorities and identify the perpetrators.

It's unfortunate, but that is one of the side effects of a mob taking the law into their own hands.

yep don't totally disagree but i reckon after seein' da atrocity at least a couple of a large crowd just might have tried ta help da cops.




DesideriScuri -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 7:48:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: muhly22222
Just because there are hundreds of witnesses doesn't mean that anybody is willing to condemn the people who did it. Approval and fear are both powerful motivators to not speak to the authorities and identify the perpetrators.
It's unfortunate, but that is one of the side effects of a mob taking the law into their own hands.


Sadly True. Thus brings us to an oft-used phrase, "Snitches Get Stitches."




tazzygirl -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 7:50:10 AM)

some folks just beg to be hidden




Real0ne -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 7:51:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: muhly22222

Just because there are hundreds of witnesses doesn't mean that anybody is willing to condemn the people who did it. Approval and fear are both powerful motivators to not speak to the authorities and identify the perpetrators.

It's unfortunate, but that is one of the side effects of a mob taking the law into their own hands.




but that is democracy at work!

She had a public trial with 50 jurors and was obviously was voted to be guilty.

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absolutchocolat -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 7:51:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

some folks just beg to be hidden


they really do, don't they? [sm=dunno.gif]




WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 7:54:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: absolutchocolat
quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
some folks just beg to be hidden


they really do, don't they? [sm=dunno.gif]

Dunno what i said that was so bad. [&:]




leonine -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 8:41:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh

quote:

ORIGINAL: muhly22222
Just because there are hundreds of witnesses doesn't mean that anybody is willing to condemn the people who did it. Approval and fear are both powerful motivators to not speak to the authorities and identify the perpetrators.

It's unfortunate, but that is one of the side effects of a mob taking the law into their own hands.

yep don't totally disagree but i reckon after seein' da atrocity at least a couple of a large crowd just might have tried ta help da cops.

The usual reason is that the cops are part of the mob.




Owner59 -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 8:50:45 AM)

American Evangelicals/right-wingers have been supporting/promoting witch hunting in Africa for decades.


As well as the demonetization and persecution of homosexuals .


http://blog.newhumanist.org.uk/2012/01/notorious-nigerian-witch-hunter-to.html


http://www.talk2action.org/story/2010/6/17/143114/883


http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/04/witch-hunts/




Owner59 -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 8:54:19 AM)

These aren`t the most sophisticated folks to begin with....

Throw a bunch of frightening superstitious poison into the culture and promoting it with the legitimacy of the church is worse than just criminal.





Owner59 -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 9:41:59 AM)

"The Real Danger of Sarah Palin's Witch Hunter"

"It's easy to think of the connection of Sarah Palin to Thomas Muthee, a man who hunts people he accuses of witchcraft, as just a story of harmless eccentricity, something to giggle about or a matter of personal conscience on Sarah Palin's part that should be beyond serious consideration. After all, we all know that there's no such thing as witchcraft, except on Halloween, ho, ho, ho!

I want to plead with people to give this story a second, more serious, round of consideration. Sarah Palin and the Wasilla Assembly of God church certainly do. You see, while you and I may not believe that evil spells cast by witches actually exist, other people do, and what they do on the basis of that belief is horrific.

Thomas Muthee used fear of witchcraft to gain political power in the town of Kiambu, Kenya. He identified a woman who was connected to local leaders, and made her the target of a campaign of terror. He sent mobs of people, some of them threatening violence, to stand outside the clinic where she worked. At Muthee's instigation, police stormed into her home firing their guns. Muthee had her arrested on suspicion of killing people with magic spells. Muthee demanded that she convert to Christianity or be forced out of Kiambu, and the woman ran away in fear of her life. Some believe that the woman never actually made it out of town, but was murdered.

This incident exposes Thomas Muthee as a violent bully who is willing to endanger the lives of innocent people for the sake of his own personal gain. After the fame he gained because of his witch hunts, the Wasilla Assembly of God church became Muthee's financial sponsor, and Muthee claims to have started hundreds of churches.

However, it would be a mistake to think that Thomas Muthee's persecution of accused witches is an isolated event of personal eccentricity or an expression of his individual, unscrupulous ambition. It's important to understand the larger cultural context within which Muthee was able whip up crowds into a violent fervor against an accused witch. Muthee exploited a widespread fear of witchcraft that exists in many places in Africa, and cynically use that fear to promote his own power.

You see, violence against people accused of witchcraft is not uncommon in Africa. In the case of Thomas Muthee's mob the accused witch is presumed to have escaped in the nick of time, before she was stoned to death. In many other cases, the accused witch is actually murdered.

Thomas Muthee has one of his many churches in the Kisii region, just 125 miles from Kiambu. Kisii has been the scene of many murders of people accused of witchcraft. In the latest of these incidents, in May 2008, at least eleven elderly people were killed, some of them burned alive, by a mob of hundreds that accused the victims of being witches. The following two video news reports describe the attacks:"



http://irregulartimes.com/witchproblems.html





EsotericLady -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 9:47:03 AM)

da...dat...dis...wha...zup...zap...zip...

You got a baddddddddd case of the da s, man!
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ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh

wonder though how da evidence would be produced in da proposed witch trials? lol





EsotericLady -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 9:57:25 AM)

There's all kinds of insanity happening in foreign countries. Torturing, stonings, mutilations, beheadings, all fashion of murders. In many cases it becomes a form of entertainment for people.... like hangings were in the Old West, or gladiators in arenas once were.
People not only bring their children along, but food, and drink.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

These aren`t the most sophisticated folks to begin with....

Throw a bunch of frightening superstitious poison into the culture and promoting it with the legitimacy of the church is worse than just criminal.







WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 10:04:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: EsotericLady
da...dat...dis...wha...zup...zap...zip...

You got a baddddddddd case of the da s, man!
quote:

ORIGINAL: WantsOfTheFlesh

wonder though how da evidence would be produced in da proposed witch trials? lol

hope da, dats etc. r not upsettin' ya? feel free to skip my posts. [8|]




Fightdirecto -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 10:04:42 AM)

For two examinations of lynch mobs, watch the movies "Fury" (with Spencer Tracy) and "The Ox-Bow Incident" (with Henry Fonda). In both instances, the mob was convinced it was "doing what was right" - and both times killed (or tried to kill) people who were innocent.




WantsOfTheFlesh -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 10:17:12 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59
American Evangelicals/right-wingers have been supporting/promoting witch hunting in Africa for decades.

doubt mainstream evangelicals support killing children. it may look strange wit that woman coming over but thats probably down ta shared pentecostal connections. doubt they support her view shes also the first woman apostle. lol

belief in witches seems a major part of religious belief through africa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt#Sub-Saharan_Africa no matter if its pagan islamic or christian & what her group practice isa weird mix of superstitions.




kanedesade -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 10:57:10 AM)

Africa seems to be a hot bed for people like Bob Larsen. Too much of this is going on, with out it being reported.




cordeliasub -> RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 (2/8/2013 12:38:53 PM)

I do not know a single Evangelical Christian who would support this. I am sure there are some somewhere, but I do not think it is the norm. That being said, this story is horrible. And I am sure anyone who dissented would have been suddenly convicted of being a witch as well. This kind of thing is so so sad. Then again, in our own country, though we do not burn people at the stake, we sure do like to stick it to people we do not understand or find different.




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