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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/8/2013 12:57:19 PM   
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I do not know a single Evangelical Christian who would support this. I am sure there are some somewhere, but I do not think it is the norm. That being said, this story is horrible. And I am sure anyone who dissented would have been suddenly convicted of being a witch as well. This kind of thing is so so sad. Then again, in our own country, though we do not burn people at the stake, we sure do like to stick it to people we do not understand or find different.


I don't either and I think you are right that it is not the norm. I also don't know anyone on the right who thinks that way. There are assholes in every group you can think of. It's a shame that the law enforcement over there didn't make enough of an effort to find the ones who were involved. People make me sick sometimes. I also find it sick that others will use this incident to further their agenda of hate against anyone who doesn't think the same way they do. Sadly some of the posters on here can't pass up a thread without taking a swipe at the other side.

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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/8/2013 1:11:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wouldn't say it's upsetting. More...strange that you don't "talk" like the rest of us do? LOL
I wondered if it was because you were a very young person, or someone from another country, but you don't have a profile so none of us can know.

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da...dat...dis...wha...zup...zap...zip...

You got a baddddddddd case of the da s, man!
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wonder though how da evidence would be produced in da proposed witch trials? lol

hope da, dats etc. r not upsettin' ya? feel free to skip my posts.


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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/8/2013 2:28:39 PM   
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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/8/2013 9:25:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		C Street House and it`s secret financers has been promoting the right-wing-fundie thugery in Africa for years.


http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/09/13/100913fa_fact_boyer


Palin....gushing over the witch hunter......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wohKOgLi8OA


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Of course no one is going to say they like witch hunters or the death of innocent children............duh!


But it is there and is something that should NOT becoming out of America,


Anti-homosexual crusades that get people shunned,beat up and or killed are also not likely to be owned up to by our fundies.....or widely read about.


But they are there and ignoring it is wrong.

http://www.africareview.com/Special-Reports/Clinton-high-fives--gay-rights/-/979182/1286548/-/slm3jt/-/index.html

"Africa new frontier for West's gay rights crusade"




http://prospect.org/article/exporting-anti-gay-movement

Exporting the Anti-Gay Movement

"How sexual minorities in Africa became collateral damage in the U.S. culture wars"




http://www.independent.co.ug/index.php/society/society/37-society/3382-the-anti-gay-crusade

"The anti-gay crusade"




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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/8/2013 9:51:18 PM   
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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/9/2013 12:11:08 AM   
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C Street House and it`s secret financers has been promoting the right-wing-fundie thugery in Africa for years.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/09/13/100913fa_fact_boyer

skimmed through da article as its very long. can't see its relevance as no mention of witchcraft & little mention of africa that i could see.

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Palin....gushing over the witch hunter......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wohKOgLi8OA

saw that as a big fuss bout a cultural exchange i reckon. from the boston herald http://cepgl.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-witchcraft-flap-all-smoke.html

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The video of a Kenyan bishop asking Jesus to protect Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin from "witchcraft" has turned into a political witch hunt, says one Harvard expert who found "nothing unusual" about the blessing.

"He was giving an African prayer to an American Christian," said Jacob K. Olupona, a Harvard African studies professor. "His prayer reflects his own background and his own training and his own world view. America may not believe in witchcraft, but witcraft is a reality (in Africa)."

Catholic League President Bill Donohue echoed that sentiment, saying witchcraft is a "sad reality" in Kenya that has resulted in scores of deaths.


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Of course no one is going to say they like witch hunters or the death of innocent children............duh!

But it is there and is something that should NOT becoming out of America,

they wouldn't but can ya even say many evangelicals defend the broad cultural practice r whitewash it?

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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/9/2013 11:00:27 AM   
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Tantamount to the pogroms in russia and/or the lawless mid-evil times.


That Palin is a superstitious kook who`s comments were fairytale doesn`t take away from the fact that she and other fundies are exporting their bigotry and hate to a place that has quite enough already.

And you`ll need more than a blog to have credibility here........FYI...you and I can have a blog too......they`re meaningless.



http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/exporting-homophobia-american-far-right-conservative-churches-establish-influence-on-anti-gay-policy-in-africa/Content?oid=1767227


"Exporting Homophobia: American far-right conservative churches establish influence on anti-gay policy in Africa

Gay Ugandans face daily fear for their lives"


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http://www.salon.com/2012/12/07/christian_right_leader_lauds_homophobic_ugandan_dictator/


Christian right leader lauds homophobic Ugandan dictator

As the Ugandan Parliament revives its "Kill the Gays" bill, Tony Perkins offers his support for Yoweri Museveni

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http://www.examiner.com/article/c-street-politics-the-family-sponsors-death-for-homosexuals-uganda

"C Street politics: The Family sponsors death for homosexuals in Uganda"

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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/9/2013 11:07:11 AM   
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I do not know a single Evangelical Christian who would support this. I am sure there are some somewhere, but I do not think it is the norm. That being said, this story is horrible. And I am sure anyone who dissented would have been suddenly convicted of being a witch as well. This kind of thing is so so sad. Then again, in our own country, though we do not burn people at the stake, we sure do like to stick it to people we do not understand or find different.


I don't either and I think you are right that it is not the norm. I also don't know anyone on the right who thinks that way. There are assholes in every group you can think of. It's a shame that the law enforcement over there didn't make enough of an effort to find the ones who were involved. People make me sick sometimes. I also find it sick that others will use this incident to further their agenda of hate against anyone who doesn't think the same way they do. Sadly some of the posters on here can't pass up a thread without taking a swipe at the other side.



There`s no question that this hateful bile is coming from the rightist.....the fundies etc...



What`s at question is the willful ignorance toward it.



"It`s not warm where I live today therefor there couldn`t be global warming" is the that logic.


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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/9/2013 6:09:04 PM   
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The creep is an African witch hunter...admittedly so.

Tantamount to the pogroms in russia and/or the lawless mid-evil times.

yup no argument there. its ugly. da argument is how much the evangalists are involved in promoting defending r whitewashing witchcraft practices. havent seen r heard anything bout that.

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That Palin is a superstitious kook who`s comments were fairytale doesn`t take away from the fact that she and other fundies are exporting their bigotry and hate to a place that has quite enough already.

And you`ll need more than a blog to have credibility here........FYI...you and I can have a blog too......they`re meaningless.

the blog article waz taken from the Boston Herald http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/us_politics/2008/09/sarah_palin_%E2%80%98witchcraft%E2%80%99_flap_all_smoke_and_no_fire as said. posted da blog instead as it contained the full article.

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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/10/2013 9:22:12 AM   
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57568327/accused-witch-burned-alive-in-papua-new-guinea-as-crowd-including-kids-watch/

Hundreds of witnesses couldn't stop it? Despite all the pictures, nobody has been arrested? WTF



With witch hunts - if you take the side of one, you are one, and you are next. I think people can be in such fear that they just do not dare intervene. Extremely hard to change.

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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/10/2013 9:25:37 AM   
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There's all kinds of insanity happening in foreign countries. Torturing, stonings, mutilations, beheadings, all fashion of murders. In many cases it becomes a form of entertainment for people.... like hangings were in the Old West, or gladiators in arenas once were.
People not only bring their children along, but food, and drink.


Used to be like that in Europe in medieval times, and in US in the 60's.


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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/10/2013 10:11:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sure the good Lord weeps in frustration over the actions of his children in his name. No wonder he does not appear to us.

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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/10/2013 10:22:07 AM   
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I'm sure the good Lord weeps in frustration over the actions of his children in his name. No wonder he does not appear to us.

Butch

I'm sure if the lord were truly "good" he would have stopped his 'children' doing such things like any decent parent would.

And that is pretty much why I don't believe he exists.

He will never appear to me anyway coz I don't follow the bible, the teachings or any other 'holy' book.

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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/10/2013 10:30:51 AM   
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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/10/2013 1:01:36 PM   
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I'm sure if the lord were truly "good" he would have stopped his 'children' doing such things like any decent parent would.

And that is pretty much why I don't believe he exists.

da children of God thing isa metaphor. maybe God cant be a botherin' wit da creatures He invented? gave them life, might help them out of they ask nicely but they do da rest. hey why expect more from da big man?

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RE: accused "witch" burned at the stake in 2013 - 2/10/2013 1:26:35 PM   
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Nor is he responsible for how his children act towards one another.
Every human being is given something called "free will." It will be how we decided to live our lives that will be judged.

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I'm sure the good Lord weeps in frustration over the actions of his children in his name. No wonder he does not appear to us.

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