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DesideriScuri -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/18/2013 6:33:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen I'll deal with this since you flat out lied in your own post. quote: ORIGINAL: SadistDave As for the deficit; I suggest you look at the history of the deficit. Before Obama, the highest deficit was less than $1/2 a trillion, The Bamster reign has given us over $1 trillion deficits 4 tears in a row. To claim he is reducing them is rather idiotic, given that whatever reductions he has made so far still leave his yearly deficit twice as high as any deficit before he took office. 2009 $1413 Billion Deficit $1509.62 Billion Deficit D D D This is the deficit produced by the last W budget. No Obama deficit has been higher. Your uncredited source lies when they claim that Obama had control of the 2009 budget. It was proposed and passed in 2008 and started in september of 2008. When did the Obama Stimulus Bill get spent? The one passed in Feb. 2009? The $787B "stimulus" bill?

OrionTheWolf -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/18/2013 11:45:43 AM)
Thanks for the link so that there are no specifics in the discussion. Doubtful any of those will impact me significantly. With how the business is set up, and the person getting the largest K-1 also having the most amount of credits, there will be some extra taxes paid. I expect to pay more taxes, but I also expect to start seeing some items cut from the budget. It has been known to me for several years that we all will need to take a hit. I am starting to see a little hope for our political system with the compromises done that got the new tax laws passed, as well as the "No Labels" non-partisan movement going and getting stronger. Sad fact is everyone will have to pay more, and this last increase will likely not be the last increase. It has to be staggered with economic growth and cutting programs that get the worst ROI . quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Fuck it Read the link http://www.forbes.com/sites/moneybuilder/2013/01/05/updated-2013-federal-income-tax-brackets-and-marginal-rates/

cloudboy -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/18/2013 6:01:37 PM)
We are only affected by the increase in the payroll tax as is most every other "working" American.

LaTigresse -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/18/2013 6:27:58 PM)
My gross paycheck decreased because I took a job that pays nearly 1/3 less than my previous job. However.......at my previous job I claimed zero deductions and had extra money taken out for both state and federal taxes. As well as paid $ 90.00 every two weeks for medical insurance. Filled my car up with gas 3 times every two weeks. Had to get the oil changed more frequently than now. Put $100.00 in a SARSEP plan. Had to pay for my lunches. All of that has changed. Those expenses have either significantly decreased, or disappeared.

MrRodgers -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/18/2013 6:40:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Baroana Really? The topic looks to me like a snide criticism of the government, thinly veiled as a working man's tale of woe. I agree with Marini here as govt. isn't even mentioned, that veil must be thin indeed for I see none and if anybody is doing any whining here...it is you.

SadistDave -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/19/2013 6:38:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Your uncredited source lies when they claim that Obama had control of the 2009 budget. It was proposed and passed in 2008 and started in september of 2008. The United States federal budget for fiscal year 2009 began as a spending request submitted by President George W. Bush to the 110th Congress. The final resolution was approved by the House on June 5, 2008.[2] The final spending bills for the budget were not signed into law until March 11, 2009 by President Barack Obama, nearly five and a half months after the fiscal year began. Oblamer was given almost 3 months to veto Bush's budget proposal, renegotiate key provisions, reallocate what money would be spent where... He could have done whatever he liked because Bush's 2009 budget proposal was not actually passed while Bush was in office. If Barry did not approve of the budget proposal; he had ample opportunity to deal with it any problems he might have found with it. Instead, he signed Bushes proposal into law. That makes the 2009 budget and deficit Oblamers problem. -SD-

Owner59 -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/19/2013 7:55:59 AM)
Actually...it doesn`t. NOBODY but the con/bush lickers believes our current problems were caused by President Obama.... Ha ha ha ha ha.....ha.[:D] Must suck....having that as your legacy.... And the ticky-tack-whine about taxes and the "big gubment`s baaaaad" meme isn`t working anymore...... Folks are getting smarter in spite of your attempts to dumb them down. And more progressive,moderate and more loyal to their nation in spite of the GOP.

SadistDave -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/19/2013 2:18:32 PM)
Oh, I know. Obama can do no wrong thanks to the media. They mustn't dispel the illusion that The Anointed One has come to save the planet. Truth be damned! But that's pretty much the rallying cry of liberals isn't it? "Win at all costs. Truth be damned!" -SD-

mnottertail -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/19/2013 2:20:50 PM)
Nope, thats pretty much the teabagger asswipe word for word. But they are in Epic Fail.

SadistDave -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/19/2013 2:37:37 PM)
And there you are, right on cue. You're a prime example of my point. I can almost hear the slobbering from here. You're still trying to braid Obama's butthairs with your tongue, I see. -SD-

mnottertail -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/19/2013 2:40:52 PM)
Nope. I am just pointing out the slobbering of the tongues at the the limbaugh ass felching caucus.

SadistDave -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/19/2013 2:54:04 PM)
One day I really hope you'll give up being a willfully ignorant establishment tool. Even the left-wing media is starting to wake up. -SD-

mnottertail -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/19/2013 3:00:27 PM)
tool. Look, some nutsucking blogger who cant find there ass with both hands and a flashlight......thats just fucking moronic, why post that ignorant shit, it makes you seem like an imbecile to anyone who sees it. I guess the media is to blame that teabaggers are not fiscally responsible as well then? Geez say the loser fucksticks of the teabagger parties, if we could only spread our lies and the media wasn't there to point out how fucking stupid we are........ Go tonguebraid boortzs or breitbarts ass, but here you aren't up to taking in too many cretins with your untutored asswipe.

SadistDave -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/19/2013 7:55:26 PM)
You know, if you keep french kissing the Anointed ones asshole like you have been for the last 5 years, it's just going to taste worse when you finally figure out that he's been shitting on ytou the whole time. But then, most libs aren't smart enough to figure it out. You're one that will just keep lapping up Obama's scat no matter what. But just to keep this nominally on topic, I figured you might want to know that the new projections show the official unemployment rate moving up to 8% very soon because the mental midget in the White House can't figure out how to create jobs. So, it looks like there are going to be even more unemployed Americans, and they will definitely be bringing home less because of Obummer and friends. On the bright side, this will be a golden opportunity for you and the other rabid libs to sharpen your teeth so you can scrape clingers from Obama's asshole for the next couple of months. -SD-

mnottertail -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/20/2013 6:43:04 AM)
quote: But just to keep this nominally on topic, I figured you might want to know that the new projections show the official unemployment rate moving up to 8% very soon because the mental midget in the White House can't figure out how to create jobs. So, it looks like there are going to be even more unemployed Americans, and they will definitely be bringing home less because of Obummer and friends. "The American people are concerned about our economy, they are concerned about jobs," Boehner said. "I'm going to stay focused on jobs," he added. John Boehner- May 10, 2012 "Americans are again left asking the question 'where are the jobs?' "Republicans have pledged to listen. We've pledged to act, and we have," the speaker says. John Boehner- June 14, 2012 Since the baggers have acted, I would say the unemployment rate is a bagger initiative. I think that spewing limbaugh asstonguings is not going to help you seem less cretinous, because the media is actually quoting the responsible parties. Where is your messiah? Seems like the more inept and ignorant they are, the farther they rise in the party.

SadistDave -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/20/2013 7:42:26 AM)
Yup, the GOP acted. Then the children in the Dumbocratic controlled Senate refused to vote on any jobs bills. When he said that your drooling leaders had already refused to vote on 25 job bills passed in the House. So while the GOP was acting, the Donothingcrats were playing petty political games with the jobs of millions of Americans. Not that it matters. Just keep tossing that presidential salad. Bask in the diarrhea of his magnificence. Clearly, it's where you want to be. -SD-

mnottertail -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/20/2013 7:45:44 AM)
Bullshit. that is teabagger cockgargling. Dumping rat poison in our drinking water is not a jobs bill.

mnottertail -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/20/2013 7:49:21 AM)
http://www.collarchat.com/m_3881960/mpage_5/key_872/tm.htm#3882612 Job Creation Enabling Bills Passed by the House of Representatives that Have Not Been Considered by the Democrat-Controlled Senate: The Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act (H.R. 872), which would halt duplicative federal regulations on farmers and small business owners that are impeding job creation. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This bill actually allows the de-regulation of dumping rat poison in your drinking water. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Energy Tax Prevention Act (H.R. 910), which would stop the federal bureaucracy from imposing a job-destroying national energy tax. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This bill de-regulates mercury levels in the air you breath spewing out of smokestacks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Clean Water Cooperative Federalism Act (H.R. 2018), which would restrict the federal government’s ability to second-guess or delay a state’s permitting and water quality certification decisions under the Clean Water Act once the EPA has already approved a state’s program, preventing approval process delays that cost jobs and leave businesses hampered by uncertainty. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This bill would allow business to ignore any water quality damage they create. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Consumer Financial Protection & Soundness Improvement Act (H.R. 1315), which would increase consumer protection and government accountability by eliminating the ability of Dodd-Frank’s unelected Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Director to unilaterally carry out regulations that hurt job growth. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fuck consumers, lassize faire from banks (BTW, this agency has already levied some fines for banks cheating their customers. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Restarting American Offshore Leasing Now Act (H.R. 1230), which would help to address high gas prices and support the creation of new American jobs by increasing offshore energy production. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Taking away the requirement for the EPA checking that a company can handle the oil spills it creates. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Putting the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act (H.R. 1229) and the Reversing President Obama’s Offshore Moratorium Act (H.R. 1231), which would help to put thousands of Americans back to work by ending the de facto moratorium on American energy production in the Gulf of Mexico in a safe, responsible and transparent manner by setting firm timelines for considering permits to drill. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Drilling right along once everybody got up to speed in proving that they can have at hand from some source the equipment ot cap a well blowout successfully. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Jobs and Energy Permitting Act of 2011 (H.R. 2021), which would streamline the permit process for American energy production to help lower prices and create tens of thousands of new jobs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- General de-regulation of states rights to ban things like the XL pipeline thru a federal eminent domain. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The North American-Made Energy Security Act (H.R. 1938), which would require the federal government to make a determination by a date certain on whether or not it will allow the Keystone XL pipeline expansion, which is projected to directly create 20,000 jobs and support the creation of thousands more, to move forward. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forcing Nebraska to give up its state's rights for oil that goes to china without charge and having a great and historical potential to destroy Nebraska wetlands. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Budget for Fiscal Year 2012 (H.Con.Res. 34). With Washington’s failure to control spending hurting job creation in America, the House has passed its budget, while the Senate has not yet considered a budget of its own. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And, just LOLOLOLOLOFUCKINGL on this one.

SadistDave -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/20/2013 8:12:34 AM)
Lets look at the other side of that link you just put up. quote: Job Creation Enabling Bills Passed by the House of Representatives that Have Not Been Considered by the Democrat-Controlled Senate: The Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act (H.R. 872), which would halt duplicative federal regulations on farmers and small business owners that are impeding job creation. The Energy Tax Prevention Act (H.R. 910), which would stop the federal bureaucracy from imposing a job-destroying national energy tax. The Clean Water Cooperative Federalism Act (H.R. 2018), which would restrict the federal government’s ability to second-guess or delay a state’s permitting and water quality certification decisions under the Clean Water Act once the EPA has already approved a state’s program, preventing approval process delays that cost jobs and leave businesses hampered by uncertainty. The Consumer Financial Protection & Soundness Improvement Act (H.R. 1315), which would increase consumer protection and government accountability by eliminating the ability of Dodd-Frank’s unelected Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Director to unilaterally carry out regulations that hurt job growth. The Restarting American Offshore Leasing Now Act (H.R. 1230), which would help to address high gas prices and support the creation of new American jobs by increasing offshore energy production. The Putting the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act (H.R. 1229) and the Reversing President Obama’s Offshore Moratorium Act (H.R. 1231), which would help to put thousands of Americans back to work by ending the de facto moratorium on American energy production in the Gulf of Mexico in a safe, responsible and transparent manner by setting firm timelines for considering permits to drill. The Jobs and Energy Permitting Act of 2011 (H.R. 2021), which would streamline the permit process for American energy production to help lower prices and create tens of thousands of new jobs. The North American-Made Energy Security Act (H.R. 1938), which would require the federal government to make a determination by a date certain on whether or not it will allow the Keystone XL pipeline expansion, which is projected to directly create 20,000 jobs and support the creation of thousands more, to move forward. A Budget for Fiscal Year 2012 (H.Con.Res. 34). With Washington’s failure to control spending hurting job creation in America, the House has passed its budget, while the Senate has not yet considered a budget of its own. Hmmm.... that looks like a completely different interpretation than the brown oozing shitstain you vomited up. -SD-

mnottertail -> RE: For those Americans who work for a living (2/20/2013 8:20:59 AM)
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr872ih/pdf/BILLS-112hr872ih.pdf But here is the brown oozing teabagger shitstain in all its glory from the government printing office not some cockgargling teabagger Limbaugh felching nutsucker site. This is where the republican controlled house website will send you. So, pretty language, and all it does is de-regulate the ratpoison being dumped into Americans drinking water. Not a jobs bill. So, lets look at it from reality, and not some boortz or brietbart or common inept, lying, dishonest teabagger 'conservative asswipe' view.

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