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Calandra -> is this the twilight zone? (6/20/2006 9:11:24 PM)

I found this website...
I've looked through and I simply cannot tell if this person is sincere, or if they're just yanking our chains... when you go to the site, scroll down and check out the links at the bottom... they're well worth your consideration ~giggles~

http://www.sexinchrist.com/submission.html



juliaoceania -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/20/2006 9:21:59 PM)

Some people are truly into this Calandra. Not my kink, but as long as it makes them happy! Their interpretation of male submission is a new one from other Christian kinksters I have seen. Many do not believe a man should ever be submissive. I think it is a good thing that these people have found a way to reconcile their sexuality with their religion.. sure beats the Hell outta telling people they will go Hell for doing WIIWD



ownedgirlie -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/20/2006 9:23:34 PM)

I am quite certain it is very real.  I actually found it rather interesting.  Song of Solomon is a most erotic book if you can get through the language and read the poetry within.



juliaoceania -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/20/2006 9:29:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I am quite certain it is very real.  I actually found it rather interesting.  Song of Solomon is a most erotic book if you can get through the language and read the poetry within.


There is more sex and violence in the Bible than any other book I have ever read.



Tenire -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/20/2006 9:30:20 PM)

my roomie was telling me she had found Christian Gor groups.

I'm not sure I understand any of it, personally, but I'm certainly not gonna judge it



Emperor1956 -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/20/2006 9:39:46 PM)

It is for real.  I had a secretary several years ago who was in a Christian Discipline marriage.  She was totally submissive to her husband, and from what I gleaned (because one DOES NOT talk about such things) she regularly underwent "Christian Discipline" (i.e. spankings) when she did not do things exactly as he liked.  She was deeply religious, believed absolutely in her God, and was an extraordinary diligent woman. 

However, before we extend the olive branch and gather round the "all Kink" campfire to sing Kumbaya with these folks, note the deeply ingrained homophobia on that website.  Also, in my experience, these people will be the first in line to take away YOUR rights to love who you want, play with who you want, be who you want.  You are after all, most likely (like Me), a fornicator, adulterer, pervert and a filthy non-believing heathen.

Just remember, Hell is where all your friends will be waiting for you.

E.



timeoutgurlie -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/20/2006 10:20:42 PM)

I couldn't possibly read every link tonight as I'm still quite ill and can't sit for that long, but I read through the home page and the fisting & God's will page...fantastic lol

I think it is sincere though, I don't know if maybe it's naive to think nobody would waste that amount of time on a mockery site, but somehow I believe this person truly believes what is written.

The Q&A section is proving to be quite hilarious, you may want to have a look if you haven't done so already and are in the mood for a laugh. 

Thanks a bunch for posting this, I have a feeling my family and friends will love it...even the ones who are very religious lol [:D]



juliaoceania -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/20/2006 10:28:14 PM)

Emperor, personally it doesn't matter to me if they do not accept my kink because they are not doing WIIWD. They are doing what they do...smiles. It is not the same as BDSM or the lifestyle. That being said I see nothing wrong in what they do as long as they do not infringe other people's rights. Unless they advocate burning gay people alive or denying them rights, they can have their opinions.



LordDominik -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/20/2006 10:49:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Calandra

I found this website...
I've looked through and I simply cannot tell if this person is sincere, or if they're just yanking our chains...


In My opinion, both as a Dominant and as an Ordained Minister, this is yet another case of someone who is using scripture to anwser the questions of how they live, and to find ways to make it biblically acceptable.  The quote he offers in Eph., equally to the quote offered in 1Peter 3:1 is no more about BDSM or D/s than anything else he suggests.
 
I'm not in any way saying the bible or God is against the D/s lifestyle, I'm saying you're not going to find justification for it in the bible though.
 
~ LD



Driver1961 -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/21/2006 3:28:00 AM)

Excellent read!

I would be interested to hear you views further LordDominik.

I have no wish to become a Christian again but have always been uneasy with the piousness of Christian belief and it's links to changes in social mores and justification for conflict between humans and our environment.

I posted this on the site;


""I have read all articles except the Masturbation. Very interesting how you substantially re- interpret the God's words.

I am not convinced by your interpretation, nor am I shocked. I am heartened by your 'turning back' Western society's re-interpretation that has suited growing Industrialized societal standards.

The sociological basis of your (possibly original) interpretation is legitimate when referring to many of the 'teachings' that do not include the topic of sex...""



twicehappy -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/21/2006 3:42:47 AM)

Oh no they are for real, i know i ran across one once early in my search for a new owner, and if the one i met was any example they are truly the type to damn us to hell. Although maybe the one i met was simply a fanatic.

We were emailing, then im'ing when on Saturday he finally asked me to come meet him, bring my bike and go for a putt. Ok, cool, then he asked me to bring a dress and heels. Whoa, i told him, no, this is a meet and a ride nothing more. Laughing he explained the dress was for church. I told him sorry i am a druid i do not enter Christian churches. He asked if i would convert, i was raised a druid, it is the religion of all my forbearers so i told him that no i would not.

All of a sudden this seemingly perfectly nice biker type guy started spouting a good deal of what i read on this website trying to make me see the light so i cut him off, then for the next two weeks i got the most horrible emails damning me to hell, telling me he bet i was bi (i am) and how god had put him in my path to save my soul.

Sheesh! I did not know my soul was missing and if it was he certainly was not who i'd let look for it.



bandit25 -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/21/2006 3:53:10 AM)

Mornin' twice,

LOL...you sure ran into some "gems" didn't you?



Level -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/21/2006 4:00:24 AM)

Interesting site, especially the "Fisting As An Act Of Faith" section [sm=hair.gif][sm=hair.gif][sm=evil.gif][sm=hair.gif][sm=hair.gif]

I thought it might be like the "Landover Baptist Church" site ("Guaranteeing Salvation Since 1612"), but the little I saw looked sincere.



bandit25 -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/21/2006 4:03:01 AM)

Morning to you too, Level.  Oh and yes, this is the Twilight Zone and I am, in fact, Rod Serling.

Or is that Sirling?  It's too early.



HisTicia -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/21/2006 5:09:15 AM)

I did run across this site a week or two ago...and found myself reading out of morbid fascination with what they believe...and how they get there.
 
I mean.. I don't think anything they think is wrong..(not from what I read anyway).. it's just so interesting how they get to the conclusions.  Not fond of all of the homophobic crap involved... very interesting also for a site that says fisting is an act of faith as Level stated above...yet having sex with the same sex is a horrible sin.  Just goes to show anyone can pick any written words apart..and use them for their own purpose.... I am sure we have seen that done many times ourselves.
 
I guess we all justify things to the best of our abilities..and if this is how they do it.. whatever.....



Lashra -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/21/2006 5:33:23 AM)

Sounds like just another misguided group of people who are afraid of women and therefore want to force them all to be submissive to men and use religion as a power tool to attempt to drive it into people's heads. No thanks, I gave up on christianity a long time ago and I'll do my kink my way.

Yay pagans!

~Lashra



desertdancer -> RE: is this the twilight zone? (6/21/2006 6:34:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LordDominik

quote:

ORIGINAL: Calandra

I found this website...
I've looked through and I simply cannot tell if this person is sincere, or if they're just yanking our chains...


In My opinion, both as a Dominant and as an Ordained Minister, this is yet another case of someone who is using scripture to anwser the questions of how they live, and to find ways to make it biblically acceptable.  The quote he offers in Eph., equally to the quote offered in 1Peter 3:1 is no more about BDSM or D/s than anything else he suggests.
 
I'm not in any way saying the bible or God is against the D/s lifestyle, I'm saying you're not going to find justification for it in the bible though.
 
~ LD


Amen!  I do think those people are sincere, however, growing up with the bible, I can tell you those scriptures were used to fit what they (the writer) wanted to hear.  I also think the explanation of 'living water' was a bit skewed.  But if they find comfort in they're translation who am I to tell them differently?  I found it to be an amusing read..

~dancer



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