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DesideriScuri -> RE: Parties for proportional representation (2/20/2013 6:14:18 AM)
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
I find it really interesting that no foaming at the mouth liberals have arrived, to tell us what guiding principles they would look for in a party to support. Or, and this would be even more interesting, what policies of the mainstream Democrats they would wish to distance themselves from, given the opportunity to do so.
No pacifists, who would want to ban the military? No greens, out to eliminate the internal combustion engine? Where are all the losers, demanding the government should give everyone a job and a home? Where are the Occupist's, insisting there should be 100% taxation on any income over a certain amount?
Surely they aren't ALL waiting for the answers to be given them by Rachel Maddow, or an email from whatever the Obama administration is calling their propaganda machine this week?
Uh, I consider myself a liberal, even though I like guns, believe in the 2nd amendment, capital punishment and no import tariffs on scotch and Irish whiskey...
It is my opinion, that the people who run for office in both parties are the most extreme examples of terminally stupid the country has ever produced. Neither side will compromise, hell I doubt seriously they would agree that the sky is blue.
Instead of party line career politicians, we need common people with more than an small amount of common sense, and have the ability to compromise on issues that this country needs to get out of the hole it is in.
Either that or we make Lucylastic ruler for life, if we can get her to move from Canada.
To be fair, jlf, Rich did say "foaming at the mouth liberal." You do not fall into that category.
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
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Green technology, great all for it, but be realistic, solar technology is no where near efficient to solve the power needs, wind technology on the large scale is an eyesore, and if you want to go to biofuels, quite paying farmers to not plant crops.
Quit paying people to not plant crops, period. Quit paying people to plant crops. I've heard it said that if we were to cover our roofs with solar power, we would have enough to power everything. I, personally, find that hard to believe considering the great variance in insolation in the US and that our houses have not been built, in general, with the optimal orientation for solar panel efficiency. If everyone took a personal responsibility in reducing our power grid needs (set up our own panels/turbines), it would help.
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On the right side, yes I want to keep my guns, but I want somebody to come up with an effective way of taking them from criminals, I support nuclear energy but someone come up with a plan to deal with the waste, and by all means, put more than a token amount into Fusion research.
There has to be something that can be done with spent fuel rods. They are still radioactive. The has to be something that can be done with that.
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For both sides, get American working again!! Bring jobs back to the states. Do something to bring the standards of education back to, if not number one, at least in the top five.
Quit buying stuff for the military they dont want. And stop trying to be the world policeman. It is legal to have US troops to patrol the border, do it. I am sick and tired of tax dollars being used to support illegals with medicaid, food stamps, and jobs.
See now? Even though you self-label as a liberal and I self-label as a conservative, we are pretty much completely in line with each other here.
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As for food stamps and welfare, do something to get those that can work to work. I see people at the food stamp office and food pantries driving 2010 to 2012 cars, and other people driving cars that are 10 or more years old.
If they are so poor that they need food stamps and to go to food pantries, how in the hell can they afford new cars and the latest smart phone?
I support a work-requirement for welfare recipients that can work. Obviously, those receiving welfare because they can not work should not be required to work, but I do believe there has to be something the taxpayers get for supporting those who have the physical capacity to work, but don't. In my area, the Unions would prevent them from doing Union jobs because it would be taking away the work opportunity from a Union worker. There was unrest within the local Public Union when the City was considering allowing private citizens to volunteer to take care of the landscaping upkeep at various parks and flower areas. The City wasn't going to do it because it didn't have the money in the budget. Locals offered to take care of it. City considered it and the Union threw a hissy fit. It was nuts.
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