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muhly22222 -> Are Fake Profiles Illegal? (2/18/2013 4:21:45 PM)

No, this is not a thread complaining about the number of "fake" profiles out there.

Instead, given the amount of threads that are begun to complain about that, this recent bit of news from the ABA caught my eye: http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/could_cat_fishing_on_dating_sites_be_illegal_under_cfaa_perhaps/?sc_cid=13DCC130

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Amy Webb thought she knew what she wanted in a man and created 10 separate JDate profiles for him, collecting female responses to determine what her competition was. She wrote a book, Data, A Love Story, detailing her findings.

But Techdirt founder Mike Masnick wonders if Webb committed multiple felonies under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act by violating JDate's terms of service agreement. He notes that JDate requires users to provide accurate information about themselves, and impersonating others is restricted.

Masnick emphasizes that it's highly unlikely that Webb would face federal prosecution. But the scenario does call attention to the CFAA’s problems, he writes. Like the late Aaron Swartz, who in January committed suicide while being federally prosecuted for downloading JSTOR articles, Webb intentionally exceeded authorized access in her research.

“If we can make the case that the value of the information she obtained by data mining these fake profiles exceeded $5,000 in value, then she has possibly set herself up for felony charges—with maximum imprisonment of five years,” he writes. “Would a court ever go that far? Almost certainly not. But given the lack of prosecutorial discretion we've seen in other cases, including many CFAA cases, is that something that really should be left to the prosecutors' and judges' discretion? Hopefully not.”


I have to say that the idea that creating a fake profile could be violating the law could have a variety of legal ramifications. Not only for the people that do so, but for dating sites like CM as well. I'm not necessarily saying it should (CM shouldn' be responsible for all of the things that its members do), but I do agree with that bit at the end about not trusting prosecutorial and judicial discretion.

I will admit that I have (in the past) created an alternate profile that I took down less than a week later. I was curious about the kind of responses that women (dominant and submissive) received, since I've read so much about it. I wouldn't say that the value of the knowledge I received was anywhere near $5,000, though, so I'd be ok (according to the article, anyway).




Notsweet -> RE: Are Fake Profiles Illegal? (2/18/2013 4:31:38 PM)

Is it ok to admit that Notsweet is not my given name?
Seems like a reach to tell people they have a fraudulent profile if they aren't committing fraud with it, but then...everywhere you look, you can find bad prosecutors.




evesgrden -> RE: Are Fake Profiles Illegal? (2/18/2013 4:45:01 PM)

In order for it to be fraud, there must be injury to the plaintiff that leaves the plaintiff in some worse off position as compared to their situation prior to the alleged fraud.





DarkSteven -> RE: Are Fake Profiles Illegal? (2/18/2013 4:53:29 PM)

Nobody sane would tackle this one.

Someone who is male creating a female profile would be a fake. But there as SO many gray areas:

A Dom deciding he'd like to try being a sub so he creates a sub profile for that purpose only.
A switch having a Dom profile and a sub one.
Someone who left their original age in and the site didn't auto-update it.
Someone who's 5'7" stating that he's 5'9".
Someone tired of messages from locals so she claims to live in Siberia when she really lives in Ohio.

So there'd need to be agreement on what "fake" is. As well as evesgrden's point about quantifying damages.




Muttling -> RE: Are Fake Profiles Illegal? (2/19/2013 3:34:54 AM)

By illegal, I presume you mean criminal and someone could actually be charged with a crime. There might be some of the stalking laws that could apply to a fake account meant to hurt someone and there might be some fraud charges that could apply as described above. However, a LOT of things have to come together to rise to the level of a crime first and then you have to find a DA who's actually willing to pursue it (neither of which are likely.)

Civil suits are more possible but cost the individual filing the suit against the fake profiler quite a bit of money with very low likelihood of winning a judgement and even less likelihood of collecting money from that judgement.




Notsweet -> RE: Are Fake Profiles Illegal? (2/19/2013 6:06:34 AM)

I know someone who put up a fake profile on here, had it up for about ten minutes before the miscreant she was going for answered it. She printed it out, took it to a restaurant, and stuffed it in the miscreant's plate of pasta, saying, "Don't come home. I'll have the papers ready next week, and I'll see you in court."

Wonder what the statute of limitations is.




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