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LafayetteLady -> RE: If I report that James lives with me, can they count his income against what i can make on SSI? (2/23/2013 11:23:09 AM)
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I hear a lot of people here talking about fraud for not reporting and how wonderful to see their tax dollars at work. Here's a couple of thoughts....
Some of the people making those statements also collect some type of disability. Do they call the SS office and make sure ALL their income is reported?
Not for nothing squaw, but do you report all your earnings as a fin domme to the government on your taxes? Because that is fraud you know.
TFB's experiences in life have made her nearly agoraphobic, and that isn't a "choice" regardless of people seeming to think it is.
For those sitting in wonderment about their tax dollars at work, are YOU completely honest with the government? Have you reported every single dollar you have made, or saved? If you purchased a used car and had the seller say you paid less, you have committed tax fraud. Or is it that you think because you are able to work for a living that you are entitled to save a little and not report it to Uncle Sam?
How many people have done some off the books work? Yep, you guessed it, that's fraud against the government.
I find it amazing that so many people here have such perfect, law abiding lives.
How about the "fraud" of TFB's father choosing to take her "rent" and put it in savings for her? She is not allowed to have more than 2K in savings at any time. If she does, then suddenly she doesn't need help anymore.
I really loved the comment that she is "choosing" to pay off her debt which takes away money she needs for food. If she bought food instead, she would be equally bitched at and reminded that she has a weight problem and doesn't need that food, and she legitimately got into debt and she should be responsible and pay off the debt. It's really a no win, isn't it?
Let's look at a hypothetical situation here for a minute. She has been disabled her entire life. Anyone here who has read her posts or talked to her on the other side and think she can hold down a job is blinded by their ignorance, really. She certainly can't work with the public, given her inability to recognize social cues. She obviously doesn't have the advanced schooling for much else.
But let's say that she had managed to stay debt free and was living on a very tight budget. Most budgets allot for savings, so when some emergency comes up, you have a safety net. She isn't allowed that. If she saves money, they take away her SSI. So they are, in essence, forcing her to live check to check, hand to mouth, with no hope of a better future or being able to save for anything. Since she is disabled, she isn't entitled to save for anything like a vacation, a new television, or even a new couch.
Yes, she has dug herself a hole, but do you get what I'm saying here? Even if she hadn't, being on SSI means you aren't entitled to have anything in life. Because if you save for it, and we find out you have saved money, you have too many "assets" to receive SSI. So even if she put $10 a month away, which considering after Medicare is taken out, she receives about $610 a month to live on is nearly impossible, but even if she found a way to do that, if Social Security found out she had that money, they would take away her SSI.
Of course, let's not forget that if she used food pantries to get her all her food (difficult but possible depending on the area you live), someone would complain that she was taking food away from people who really need it.
Just imagine for one minute that you had suffered horrible abuse as a child (and I know some people here have), that you have multiple issues which prevent you from being able to hold down a job, and you were living in ONE room and had about $400 a month after insurance and rent to pay your bills, purchase food and necessities like shampoo and soap. You visit three to four food pantries a month to get staples so you pay as little as you can for food, but that provides you with mostly stuff that is unhealthy anyway because all those wonderful, financially stable people donate the crap from their pantries that they don't want (food pantries regularly give cranberry sauce, yam and mac and cheese, often all out dated). Still, you manage to save a couple bucks each month so you can get yourself a treat, maybe an outfit that didn't come from the local salvation army, and that no one has worn before you, or a new comforter set for your bed because the one you have is threadbare.
See, you aren't able to have those things because you aren't allowed to save money. Sure, lots of you are quick to say she needs a very strict budget. I'm one of them. But even with a strict budget, you can't get blood from a stone. Television and internet are luxuries? Really? How long have you lived without either, while also not being able to drive or work or have contact with the outside world? Reading books is wonderful, but you don't even get to watch the news without those things.
I guess it comes down to one thing here, let he/she who is without sin (or in this case, always completely honest with the government, IRS, and such) throw the first stone. Quite frankly, there is not one person here who can honestly say they can do that.
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