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You tell me - 6/21/2006 5:16:25 AM   
lostsoul92468


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Status: offline 		My goal is to find that  true release in surrending to him where there is no longer a me but only him. Where all i know is serving him. His least touch brings me pleasure and his absence brings me pain.

You tell me is this true passion and submission or a pipe dream?
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RE: You tell me - 6/21/2006 5:48:36 AM   
JessieMe


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Status: offline 		This is true passion as I am sure you already know. This does not have to be a pipe dream although it can feel like it if you settle for less than that. The hardest part about being a submissive / slave is that we are NOT patient creatures. What we want / need, we want / need NOW and will generally (not always but generally) rationalize a good reason for taking what will not give us this all consuming passion. The really sad part is when we realize it is not what we are looking for and feel an end must take place, the blame always seems to go to the dominant. Stay honest and focused in what you search and settle for nothing less.. but if you do settle.. at least be honest about it.

Good luck in your search!

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RE: You tell me - 6/21/2006 5:50:34 AM   
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Stay honest and focused in what you search and settle for nothing less.. but if you do settle.. at least be honest about it.

Good luck in your search!


Just as a post script note.. I would not necessarily tell the Dominant that I had settled.. the honesty I spoke of was to yourself LOL

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RE: You tell me - 6/21/2006 6:08:51 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		What you seek is certainly possible for at least short periods of time.

But unless he's insanely rich, with plenty of time and desire to micromanage you, it's not really what life is on a long term basis.

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RE: You tell me - 6/21/2006 6:19:16 AM   
littleone35


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Status: offline 		I am not sure if this can work if you don't have a sense of self.  I mean if it is all about him and there is no you i think that may cause you an idenity crisis.  Of course if  you can make it work great i wish you much luck.

Matt's littleone

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RE: You tell me - 6/21/2006 6:42:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lostsoul92468

My goal is to find that  true release in surrending to him where there is no longer a me but only him. Where all i know is serving him. His least touch brings me pleasure and his absence brings me pain.

You tell me is this true passion and submission or a pipe dream?


Phased as you have, I'd say it's an unobtainable goal.  People have tried for centuries to be completely selfless and they've pretty much run up against millions of years of evolution where the body has developed the ability to yell loud enough to override the brain.

Also consider the guy.  You're laying a pretty heavy trip on him.  His absence brings you pain?

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RE: You tell me - 6/21/2006 7:22:44 AM   
lostsoul92468


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Status: offline 		The bringing of pain in his absence is figuratively speaking, i am  saying that i want to miss him on a physical level not just an emotional one.

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RE: You tell me - 6/21/2006 7:27:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I understand you are looking for depth, here. Some personalities can possibly bring some form of physical withdrawl, like sub-drop for short periods of time.  But most of it is going to be in you, by you, for you, caused by you.

You just wanna love the shit outta that man..........

A noble and doable thing.

Ron

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RE: You tell me - 6/21/2006 7:44:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lostsoul92468

My goal is to find that  true release in surrending to him where there is no longer a me but only him. Where all i know is serving him. His least touch brings me pleasure and his absence brings me pain.

You tell me is this true passion and submission or a pipe dream?


your goal is one that some have successfully accomplished.  it has required intense focus, but it is do-able.  this slave would advise you to be prepared, however, especially when you announce it in an online forum for folks to raise questions regarding your mental health, stability and your romantic inclinations. some will inevitably even insinuate your resemblance to something folks wipe their feet on.  embrace your path and best wishes on your journey!

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RE: You tell me - 6/21/2006 8:41:32 AM   
lisa1978


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Status: offline 		I think like several have already stated that for periods of time you can certainly feel the way you want, but human nature and life situations that do not recognize M/s relationships that when talking months into years that being what you are describing which sounds at a very high level is immpossible.

Maybe it is in the definition but from what I read into it was you never think of yourself but only think about him and his desires and happiness. On a certain lower level, sure that is possible, but on the level your passionate prowse describes I just think that is asking way too much.

To me personally, it is a better goal to want to put my owners desires always above my own seperate ones at all times and realize how small and unimportant my selfish thoughts and desires can be in comparison to my happiness from serving my owner.



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RE: You tell me - 6/21/2006 11:40:08 AM   
happypervert


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Status: offline 		It strikes me as the sort of notion one might find in a Harlequin romance novel, and asking if it is "true" passion and submission makes it sound even cornier and therefore even less rooted in reality.

So I'll vote pipe dream -- sure some people find it just like some find love at first sight. For the rest, that sort of stuff just happens during daydreams when they're bored at work.


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RE: You tell me - 6/21/2006 12:06:28 PM   
fullofgrace


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Status: offline 		i love very hard and intensely, though not so codependently. and sometimes i don't attain quite that level of selflessness (partly for the reason i'm about to mention).

my only concern is that the emotional and physical pain of absence (which i'm already predisposed to, having something of an emotional attachment issue since i was a child) is something that causes me to become more attached and needy, which leads to selfishness on my part, particularly when my Dominant half needs space (as He often does). i would worry about how most submissives would handle that, and would handle the day-to-day realities of being apart. it is one thing to love someone deeply and unconditionally, and to give yourself to them in service. it is another thing to base your whole life around them so utterly that you lack self-sufficiency or the ability to function on your own and separately from them.


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RE: You tell me - 6/22/2006 3:46:20 AM   
bandit25


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Status: offline 		Fullofgrace,

Um, have you considered that being too needy may just drive Him away?  I read your other thread and your profile.  You are a pretty woman and, from what I read, you have a lot going for you.  Have you talked to your Dom about this?  Does he really want you to base your whole life around Him...to the point that you lack the ability to act on your own?  That's an almost impossible burden for Him to bear.  I miss my Dom when we are apart and yeah, sometimes it seems like a physical hurt but I still go to work every day...I still raise my kids...I still make hundreds of decisions every day...all by myself.  Sure I ask His advice but not on every little thing. 

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RE: You tell me - 6/22/2006 4:11:44 AM   
kisshou


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Status: offline 		This does not resonate with me because if it was all about him there would not be the part about it bringing you pleasure and pain. The focus would be on him not you. 

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RE: You tell me - 6/22/2006 10:22:27 AM   
fullofgrace


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ORIGINAL: bandit25

Fullofgrace,

Um, have you considered that being too needy may just drive Him away?  I read your other thread and your profile.  You are a pretty woman and, from what I read, you have a lot going for you.  Have you talked to your Dom about this?  Does he really want you to base your whole life around Him...to the point that you lack the ability to act on your own?  That's an almost impossible burden for Him to bear.  I miss my Dom when we are apart and yeah, sometimes it seems like a physical hurt but I still go to work every day...I still raise my kids...I still make hundreds of decisions every day...all by myself.  Sure I ask His advice but not on every little thing. 


perhaps i didn't write clearly enough...i don't generally feel/act that way. that tendency to neediness is something i've come to deal with very well, particularly with His help. i make probably 98% of the decisions in my life on my own, with minimal to no input from Him (as He wishes), and i have a fulfilling school career as well as working part-time as a freelance web designer and pursuing many hobbies that He chooses not to be a part of.

my post was meant more as a sharing of experience of an extreme that i know i have been in danger of or have gone to at some point in the past, and a warning that basing one's life around another to an extreme degree can cause one to lose sight of their own needs and self-sufficiency, and impair their ability to function in their day-to-day lives.

< Message edited by fullofgrace -- 6/22/2006 10:23:14 AM >

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RE: You tell me - 6/22/2006 10:33:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kisshou

This does not resonate with me because if it was all about him there would not be the part about it bringing you pleasure and pain. The focus would be on him not you. 

Yeah there is the point that if you are away from him, it's because it's what he wishes and therefore you would be pleasing him through obeying and thus should be thrilled at the opportunity and your own good behavior...

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RE: You tell me - 6/22/2006 10:35:46 AM   
fullofgrace


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: kisshou

This does not resonate with me because if it was all about him there would not be the part about it bringing you pleasure and pain. The focus would be on him not you. 

Yeah there is the point that if you are away from him, it's because it's what he wishes and therefore you would be pleasing him through obeying and thus should be thrilled at the opportunity and your own good behavior...


hehehehe. yes, i'm beginning to be able to deal with that little catch. i wonder what the op thinks about it...  


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RE: You tell me - 6/22/2006 10:36:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lostsoul I think I know the feeling your referring to and yes in my opinion I think it's possible to achieve that feeling. IMHO I think that it takes a lot of trust and a very strong bond between you and the person your serving.

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RE: You tell me - 6/22/2006 4:28:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lostsoul92468

My goal is to find that  true release in surrending to him where there is no longer a me but only him. Where all i know is serving him. His least touch brings me pleasure and his absence brings me pain.

You tell me is this true passion and submission or a pipe dream?


Yes I believe this is obtainable.  In fact I believe it is ideal.  What you write is what I am growing toward.  Some take "there is no longer a me" differently than I think you intend.  For me, it means all I do and all I am is for him and through him.  His needs are first.  He is my primary focus.  He is my foundation and my purpose.  And in that, I soar, and reach the highest elevation points.  It is truly beautiful.

As for absence bringing you pain, every time I am not with my Master I feel the void of him, yet I always feel him in me and with me.  When he is away, particularly when not in contact, I suffer for him.  Indeed yes, I feel pain, even pain which manifests in me physically.

As for the question of laying a heavy trip on him...Master absolutely loves my pain.  It is not a "trip" on him, but a pleasure for him, to know I ache and crave so badly I could scream, yet I manage to make my way through my days productively...as it is his will.

I wish you the best in your journey.  I wish you intensity in your passion.  To feel your heart pound so thunderously for the one you serve is, in fact, spectacular.

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