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breagha -> Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 5:33:35 PM)

A HISTORY LESSON, VERY INTERESTING

They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot & then once a day it was taken & Sold to the tannery.......if you had to do this to survive you were "Piss Poor"

But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot......they "didn't have a pot to piss in" & were the lowest of the low

The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good by June.. However, since they were starting to smell . ...... . Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting Married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the
children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof... Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs." There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, "Dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a thresh hold.

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire.. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme: Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old. Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and chew the fat.

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the upper crust.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would Sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a wake.

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the
grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive... So they would
tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, saved by the bell or was considered a dead ringer.

And that's the truth....Now, whoever said History was boring




Level -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 5:39:15 PM)

That was a good read [:D] even the "they still smelled pretty good by June".




breagha -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 5:40:41 PM)

cute right? the tub part... grosss!!! i always wondered where that saying came from though




ShaharThorne -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 5:46:47 PM)

We read historical romances and they mention hairless crotches for the females. Mom wondered one day how they did it and I had to educate her...European women puck while Islamic women used a paste. She shut up afterwards...




jlf1961 -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 5:48:52 PM)

You just hit on what one of my history profs used to say, history is like a river, the kings, queens, nobles and battles are the middle of the river, the people lived on the shore of the river.

You just gave everyone an example of the shore.

Nice work




Level -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 5:56:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: breagha

cute right? the tub part... grosss!!! i always wondered where that saying came from though


Yeah, I wouldn't be too keen on bathing after uncle joe, and his dingleberry collection [:)]




breagha -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 6:04:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

We read historical romances and they mention hairless crotches for the females. Mom wondered one day how they did it and I had to educate her...European women puck while Islamic women used a paste. She shut up afterwards...


can you imagine plucking?? i tear up sometimes when i get an unruly eyebrow hair...




breagha -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 6:06:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Level


quote:

ORIGINAL: breagha

cute right? the tub part... grosss!!! i always wondered where that saying came from though


Yeah, I wouldn't be too keen on bathing after uncle joe, and his dingleberry collection [:)]


HAHAHA dingleberries.... can you imagine the amount of them after a year of no bathing? let alone after multiple people bathing in the same water?




ShaharThorne -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 6:07:04 PM)

I want the paste...shaving causes a rash and the paste was said to smell like almonds.




ShaharThorne -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 6:09:22 PM)

Also...the women was suppose to bathe the gentleman, especially guests. I can imagine a lord getting his back scrubbed with a loofa...




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 6:10:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: breagha

A HISTORY LESSON, VERY INTERESTING

They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot & then once a day it was taken & Sold to the tannery.......if you had to do this to survive you were "Piss Poor"

But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot......they "didn't have a pot to piss in" & were the lowest of the low

The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May, and they still smelled pretty good by June.. However, since they were starting to smell . ...... . Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting Married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the
children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof... Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs." There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying, "Dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a thresh hold.

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire.. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme: Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old. Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and chew the fat.

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the upper crust.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would Sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a wake.

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the
grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive... So they would
tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift.) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, saved by the bell or was considered a dead ringer.

And that's the truth....Now, whoever said History was boring


I'm gonna take a dump now.




breagha -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 6:15:05 PM)

is this a good thing?




breagha -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 6:18:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaharThorne

I want the paste...shaving causes a rash and the paste was said to smell like almonds.



paste.... would that be like waxing? or....




PeonForHer -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 6:21:38 PM)

quote:


They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot & then once a day it was taken & Sold to the tannery.......if you had to do this to survive you were "Piss Poor"


And maybe if you were even poorer than that, you were said to be 'without a pot to piss in'.

Interesting!




breagha -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 6:24:34 PM)

thats what it says... even if none of this is true... someone is very clever




ShaharThorne -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 6:27:10 PM)

Similar to Nair, I believe...the recipe lost in the tomes of time...




breagha -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 6:28:26 PM)

and that is a shame...




Lucylastic -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 7:03:00 PM)

There was an interesting set of documentaries out from the beeb called filthiest cities..the first one was london, the second was paris and the third was manhattan, with lots of history on the hygiene issues the big cities had a few hundred years ago.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01076qv
they have some clips there, the one I found interesting the most, cos its close to my heart was the london one...




outlier -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 8:06:30 PM)

If a town had a grist mill for grinding grain then the miller would
judge how fine the stones were grinding by rubbing a sample between
his fingers as it ran from the stones down the chute into the sack. 
Thus he was using his "rule of thumb"

Also he could tell if he was grinding too fast by the smell of the
grist as the stones turned.  But in order to do this he had to
"keep his nose to the grindstone".

 




Hillwilliam -> RE: Great little history lesson... love this (2/25/2013 8:10:32 PM)

My favorite term if that ilk is "Sleep tight and dont let the bedbugs bite"

The bedbugs part is self explanatory as early inns weren't very sanitary.
"Sleep tight" comes from the fact that early beds had a framework that had ropes crisscrossing underneath the mattress instead of a box spring. If the ropes weren't very tight, it was like sleeping in a hammock.




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