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KennelDeSade2 -> RE: The experience... beyond kinky play! (6/22/2006 10:07:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver
but see it as just an excuse for kinky sex by those who have problems because they were brought up with fucked up moral values.


Interesting theory, but falls down pretty hard when somebody who had no morals to begin with comes in and finds a sense of wonder in it all, ain't it?
Then again, maybe I found what I was looking to find, and so did you. 
One of the biggest barriers to understanding others, is we all believe that others are just like us.  But, they really aren't.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: The experience... beyond kinky play! (6/22/2006 10:30:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KennelDeSade2
Interesting theory, but falls down pretty hard when somebody who had no morals to begin with comes in and finds a sense of wonder in it all, ain't it?
Then again, maybe I found what I was looking to find, and so did you. 
One of the biggest barriers to understanding others, is we all believe that others are just like us.  But, they really aren't.

Well, but he's right IMO.

A large number of people who come into wiitwd really want to enjoy normal lives with hot kinky raunchy out of the norm dark nasty evil bad sex.

You hear all the time about how the female subs want to be "taken"- they like feeling like they have no choice, they like feeling like they are helpless, they like feeling like they were "forced" into it, they like feeling like they can't be held responsible- they just have to "let go."  Women especially have a HUGELY difficult time opening up to simply wanting their own pleasure and becoming self-responsible for it.

So they couch it in higher morals, make it about HIM, make it about HIS pleasure, make it about some "power exchange."

Which doesn't work out when you see so many threads about subs not being happy and making their own chocies.

Now, certianly not everyone is like this.  Lots of people DO thrive in authority transfer relationships, lots of people DO take responsibility and can open say to their partner "I'm really horny, can we have sex now?" and aren't using the authority transfer as a way to "make it ok to be a slut"

But it's certainly common enough.





meatcleaver -> RE: The experience... beyond kinky play! (6/22/2006 11:36:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KennelDeSade2

Interesting theory, but falls down pretty hard when somebody who had no morals to begin with comes in and finds a sense of wonder in it all, ain't it?
Then again, maybe I found what I was looking to find, and so did you. 
One of the biggest barriers to understanding others, is we all believe that others are just like us.  But, they really aren't.



I'm not quite understanding if you are referring to someone in particular or not about someone not having any morals to begin with but I think LA summed up what I meant pretty well.

I really don't see what personal morals has to do with sex since its a perfectly natural activity to engage in. One wouldn't consider the need for someone to have morals in order to breath.




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