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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 8:54:28 AM   
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It was said very slightly "tongue in cheek"... but...

I think there's a pretty uncontroversial, and rather obvious, view that men have strong basic urges to breed - and that we have a strong primal tendency towards younger more likely to be fertile women. We still carry a ton of our "caveman dna" about with us.

But, as our personal drivers move beyond simply "survive" and "breed", we develop a more sophisticated filter... we over-rule those caveman instincts to apply a much more nuanced set of selection criteria.

I've noticed my criteria change over time... it really wasn't that long ago when the thought of finding a woman over the age of 25 was alien to me, and suddenly I realised that the opposite had become true...

So, no the "more evolved" line wasn't a serious point, at lest not entirely so.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 9:10:30 AM   
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I would say it's because you never matured sexually beyond a teenage boy, but I could be wrong.



It is a curiosity to me that although women tend to have a much better balance between feeling and thinking than men, they are the ones who tend to be the most lost when it comes to their biological drives. Show me anywhere in nature where the biological drive to reproduce is not paramount over almost all other drives. But it is PC to pretend that the human animal, of all the species on the planet, is the only one to have risen above that.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 9:31:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Pyramus

Here is why I asked, and why I asked both men and women how THEY feel about any strong need to for sperm to be INSIDE a woman.
1. I only understand myself (so other males may differ - which is why I had asked). I myself, strongly prefer my semen INSIDE a woman, and not OUTSIDE!


I've thought about this for awhile, and I am having a very hard time coming up with any answer beyond the biological drive. Otherwise I would say it is a desire that happens to be unusually strong in you. I am hampered, like you, by the lack of information about how other men feel about it. For me personally, it is not something I have ever thought about. At the same time, I find no arousal in spraying sperm all over a woman's breasts, for example. I've rarely ever done it.

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2. I do not understand women - and why THEY would want sperm (either inside or outside) - hence I have a total lack of understanding there (save the one woman who said it felt "warm inside").


I have even less information from women. So for what little it is worth, my thoughts are that the average woman has no burning desire to have sperm inside of them. Not biologically because they have to do all the work in childbirth (with the obvious exception of when they do desire a child). And as for elsewhere my impression is that the women who do enjoy it, it is either because they simply enjoy it (personal preference), or because it excites them because it excites the man. That, at least, has been my experience.

It is being rather a frustration to me that I am hitting a wall as to a deeper explanation. Though it is possible that there is no deeper explanation.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 9:53:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dyfrynt
Guess that makes me an Insider by default!


Wonderful quote!


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it is possible that there is no deeper explanation.


I'm sure there actually 'is' a deeply biological explanation. As you said, we pretend we're not animals. But 4 billion years of evolution is hard to shake in just one lifetime.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 10:02:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: crazyml
I think there's a pretty uncontroversial, and rather obvious, view that men have strong basic urges to breed - and that we have a strong primal tendency towards younger more likely to be fertile women. We still carry a ton of our "caveman dna" about with us.

*nods* Agreed in broad generalities. And certainly if I try hard to remember back to my under 20 days there was probably truth to it.

In my adult lifetime though it's a question of dominance (to use the BDSM word). The idea that I'd give some bit of fluff in a short skirt control over me... even just a little... is really troubling. If offends my sense of "who's the boss of Jeff". So in my recent memory such things are mostly a minor annoyance rather than titillating. My immediate internal reaction is, "No, I don't want YOU to push those buttons so you won't."

Also, I have never really had the urge to procreate. I have certainly had the urge to fuck but never to have children. So for me, cumming inside the woman has more to do with the pragmatics of not wanting the pleasure to stop just short of "there" than it does anything else.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 11:33:06 AM   
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Completely throwing political correctness out the window...

I think, for some males AND females, it is a form of being marked as "property", if only for the duration of that encounter.

< Message edited by Level -- 3/1/2013 12:02:51 PM >


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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 2:02:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Level
I think, for some males AND females, it is a form of being marked as "property", if only for the duration of that encounter.


Interesting point. Sort of like urinating on your fire hydrant to show others it's yours.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 2:21:13 PM   
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Exactly.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 2:29:07 PM   
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I think that it is also worth mentioning that the biological purpose of the mating instinct and the psychological experience of it are two vastly different things.

Ultimately we humans have instinctual impulses. We choose to indulge them or not, but while these impulses serve a purpose our conscious understanding of them are little more then rationalizations.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/1/2013 2:38:55 PM   
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Simple. Evolutionary psychology. Biological imperative. It's why the human species has been so phenomenally successful at reproduction - we live to fuck.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/3/2013 12:32:01 AM   
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I asked my Master what he thought about this and I have my opinion.

My Owner feels no preference towards cumming inside of a woman to on her, only insofar as that it feels better when it's "enclosed". 9.5 times out of 10 he cums inside of me and not on me, only really enjoying the visual aspect of it at times.

Me, I like to have cum inside of me. Much akin to what Level said, to me it's a mark of ownership. That his cum is inside of me, only his and only ever will be his.

Gaia.

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 3/3/2013 12:41:37 PM   
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The reason I'd rather him cum inside me? It's cleaner. I don't like the feel of it on my external skin. I hate messes.


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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 6/23/2013 5:32:57 PM   
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All that follows are my mental ramblings. I do not imply my thoughts fit or belong to anyone else, and there will be generalizations. I write through the mind of an earlier time, within which one might see a reflection of eons long past.....way before laboratories, test tube babies, artificial insemination, surrogate wombs, in vitro fertilization, etc.


CONTROL

Life, and its creation, is sacred beyond measure and understanding, and therefore, those parts involved in creating it are sacred, as well. Perhaps it is the biggest, most important job humans have, because it is from there, all things come and all things are possible.

Might men subconsciously/cellularly/dna-wise have had a sense/experience of controlling life (determining when, where and how it potentially happens) by seminal implantation? Because of them, life sprung/sprang forth and renews...without them it would not have been possible. He was the initiator. It was his power and choice, alone, to create life. Might that have made them feel God-like...The Big Banana?

POWER

Men successful in procreation have literally replicated themselves...they never die and live forever. Huge ego boost, and what power! Power, as Kissenger said, is supposedly the greatest aphrodisiac of all. So might men have naturally feltl overwhelming desire and compulsion to spread their seed fast and furiously? If he had more children to cover the earth than anyone else, he potentially had more influence over the world and the people in it than anyone else. Power.

If humans thought/felt the human body was the end all, be all, once they dropped it they would lose all power and influence, but if they could procreate/recreate and perpetuate themselves selves in descendants, it's as though they never die. In a way, it's like conquering death. Power.

Then there is woman and her womb, which became the sacred vessel for his sacred mission (and emission). Once she was successfully impregnated, her life and body, for a period of time, was no longer hers. She was his tool, and in service to him and his creation/recreation, so he had conquered her, as well, for without him and his contribution, that couldn't ever happen. Power x 4.

Perhaps the desire to “wash” a woman's body with his semen and seed was a way he baptized her, or his territorial way of “marking” and imprinting himself upon her. Either way, both are very powerful...the former being of a spiritual nature, and the latter, physical. Perhaps it was his way of him displaying to himself and her, under no uncertain terms, she was owned (and not to EVER forget it), implying he was far above her. Perhaps it was a symbolic act, mimicking that of his annihilation of her, which goes back to having the power to conquer and destroy. Power.

PLEASURE

Krikey, who doesn't want to feel good...who doesn't want chemical/physical euphoria, again, and again and again?!

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 6/23/2013 5:51:07 PM   
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Yawn...

Oh because cumming outside of a warm hole means my cock isnt being serviced and the pleasure stops.

And of weighty questions in the universe this one ranks way below which end of the tp goes on the ourtside or hiw many licks to get to the center of a tootsie roll...

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RE: Cerebral primordial thoughts on the topic of giving... - 6/25/2013 1:31:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

And why did they name a whale after the stuff?




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