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tj444 -> RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling (3/15/2013 11:46:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

I have to agree with Aynne for one thing - it's absolutely abnormal that humans drink the milk of another species. =p
I couldn't tolerate plain milk as a kid; it just tasted like pus and sick to me.

But yeaaah... this aversion to labeling things is just... ugh. Even if something isn't necessarily harmful, people still deserve to know what is in what they're consuming, in order to make decisions for themselves.

I do hope that I can eventually get back out of the city, and grow more of my own food.

I dont drink milk either, havent since i was a kid.. I do eat a little cheese tho, from time to time.. I see it in 2 different ways.. to take something that is natural and add crap to it is unnecessary.. and.. if they can get away with doing this to milk, then what is next? cuz you know its a slippery slope and the idea will spread amoung those scheming dirty rat food mfrs... They already do add sugar to some canned tomatoes and canned peas.. why? gawd, I ruined a pot of good stew cuz of the too sweet can of tomatoes.. but at least I am aware of that and can see on the label if they add crap or not.. but if they can re-define milk so the can add crap without it being on the label, they will try to re-define other food too...

its really just a way to get kids addicted to the sugar they will add (imo they will increase the amount of sugar over time too).. isnt it a lot like the tobbaco mfrs sneakily adding extra nicotine to make their cigs more addictive?




ShaharThorne -> RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling (3/16/2013 6:05:39 AM)

I seldom drink milk except if I am having a bowl of cereal. Lizard is not able to drink regular milk but thrives on organic milk (which I forgot to buy while I was down there...I remembered the damned coffee and creamer for her dad though).

I mentioned the sweeteners in the milk to Bo and he just about lecture me....[8|]




MercTech -> RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling (3/16/2013 1:51:23 PM)

Speaking of milk.. one of my personal peeves is "acid neutralized buttermilk"

WTF.. if you neutralize the acid that wholly defeats the purpose of cooking quick breads with buttermilk... i.e. pancakes, biscuits, or cornbread. You then have to add an acid so it will rise.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling (3/17/2013 8:56:56 AM)

Now does that include organic milk?




Aynne88 -> RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling (3/19/2013 2:26:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

I have to agree with Aynne for one thing - it's absolutely abnormal that humans drink the milk of another species. =p
I couldn't tolerate plain milk as a kid; it just tasted like pus and sick to me.

But yeaaah... this aversion to labeling things is just... ugh. Even if something isn't necessarily harmful, people still deserve to know what is in what they're consuming, in order to make decisions for themselves.

I do hope that I can eventually get back out of the city, and grow more of my own food.


Thanks pretty :-) And to add more grossness to this thread, it probably tasted like pus to you because milk is full of pus, and blood and feces. I don't just make this shit up sitting here with a tin foil hat on, honest. I miss some dairy, and cheese, and I miss some foods I used to eat like pate and foie gras, but......once you open your eyes to what is real and hidden from us, and shove off the bullshit lies like "organic" and "humanely raised" you just have a choice to make. Continue the cruelty or do the right thing. And milk and dairy is as cruel as meat, don't kid yourselves.

http://earthlings.com/?page_id=10




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling (3/19/2013 2:50:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

I have to agree with Aynne for one thing - it's absolutely abnormal that humans drink the milk of another species.

Man has being doing that since he walked on this dirt ball.
It's perfectly natural.
Some animals will also raise the young of another species.

To say it's absurd is just plain crap!

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88
Thanks pretty :-) And to add more grossness to this thread, it probably tasted like pus to you because milk is full of pus, and blood and feces. I don't just make this shit up sitting here with a tin foil hat on, honest.

And by this you are saying that all mothers that breast-feed are also feeding their kids pus, blood and feces??
Oh give over!!! The milk glands not produce all that crap.
At least not in any measurable amount to be harmful.
It has been proven that natural breast milk is better for most babies than any formula.
And again, man and beast have been feeding their young on natural milk since they evolved.

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ORIGINAL: Aynne88
...you just have a choice to make. Continue the cruelty or do the right thing. And milk and dairy is as cruel as meat, don't kid yourselves.

Man and beast alike have also eaten meat from the time they learned to hunt.
When was the last time you saw a vegetarian lion or tiger??

It has also been proven that plants also feel pain.
So are you going to give up eating veggies as well???
At this rate you'll have to learn to survive on nothing more than fresh air.
Then what about all the microbes you're digesting?
Perhaps we ought to put you in a vacuum! [:D]

You veggie-eaters really get on my tits sometimes.




Aynne88 -> RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling (3/19/2013 4:04:16 PM)

you missed my entire point I see.

Breastfeeding is beautiful and natural, it's meant to be if it's possible for the mother. What is not natural is us stealing the milk from another species mother for us. That is my point. Not anything against breastfeeding from the human mother to child.

the plants feeling pain argument is so stupid that I can't bear to even discuss it, it's the same useless stupid comment vegans hear non stop. Same with the vegetarian lion comment. What lions and other animals don't do is factory farming where sentient beings are born to be kept in horrifying fucking inhumane conditions so they can eat like we do to billions of animals.

Of course human breast milk isn't full of pus and feces, it comes from the mother directly to the child. Have you seen the allowable amounts of blood, fecal matter and pus that the FDA permits in your dairy milk? You are okay with that? I am not, not buy a long shot, it's disgusting, and most likely you don't want to even believe it so much easier to keep your head in the sand.

Tell me, why do you think it's natural to be a grown ass adult and drink what is meant to be the sustenance for another species young? That is so fucked up, and I don't care how long we have been doing it, that is hardly a convincing argument....

are you okay with this too?



Male dairy calves are by-products of the dairy industry. Just like us, cows have to give birth to produce milk. Female calves go on to become milk machines, replacing worn out mothers, but males are useless for dairying.


http://rense.com/general63/milkmyth.htm




MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling (3/19/2013 4:25:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lmpishlilhellcat

My organic milk still has fat and sugar.


Milk NATURALLY contains fat, sugar (lactose), and protein, as well as minerals and vitamins, all excreted by the female mammal's body...those will all show up on the nutrient analysis chart.




nek0s -> RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling (4/13/2013 12:01:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

We shop at whole foods, all organic. I wonder does that matter or is all that bs in my milk?


Whole Foods is just over priced regular food. I have family who raise " free range " chickens , cattle and pigs for Niman Ranch and believe me these poor animals are factory farmed like the rest with only a few small deviations. Unless you raise and grow your own food's you are eating untold amount's of toxins and unhealthy drugged up animals. It's a sad reality but the food in the U.S is killing us and will continue to get worse... Profits before people as the republicans say.




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