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dcnovice -> Free at (Long, Long) Last (3/6/2013 5:23:25 PM)
Bill would posthumously grant freedom to NH slaves CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — When 20 slaves petitioned New Hampshire two centuries ago seeking their freedom, lawmakers decided the time wasn't right and delayed action. Now, 233 years later, legislators in one of the nation's whitest states have decided the time is right to consider the request. A Senate committee on Wednesday unanimously recommended the full body posthumously emancipate the 14 petitioners who never were granted freedom. Source: Yahoo News I'm honestly not sure what I think about this one. Is it an important gesture, righting an antique wrong? (And I do believe gestures can matter.) Or are well-meaning people editing a stark page of history in order to make themselves feel better? Thoughts?

Kirata -> RE: Free at (Long, Long) Last (3/6/2013 5:31:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice Is it an important gesture, righting an antique wrong? (And I do believe gestures can matter.) Or are well-meaning people editing a stark page of history in order to make themselves feel better? If the latter, then they wouldn't be well-meaning; they're be self-serving. Let's go with the positive take on it. K.

SadistDave -> RE: Free at (Long, Long) Last (3/6/2013 6:08:38 PM)
The gesture is absolutely meaningless to the people it was most important to 233 years ago. 233 years ago 20 living people petitioned for their freedom. They lived as slaves and died as slaves because someone 233 years ago would not grant them freedom. Now 20 dead people who were freed from bondage through death have been graciously granted their official freedom as a result of white guilt. But hey! As long as the people of New Hampshire were allowed this feel good Kodak moment over events that took place 233 years ago; I suppose the effort is worthwhile, even if it is a shallow, empty, meaningless gesture. But I'm a little more cynical than Kirata... -SD-

muhly22222 -> RE: Free at (Long, Long) Last (3/6/2013 6:15:20 PM)
FR This isn't even a gesture, it's wasting time. I'm sure New Hampshire has issues that they can work on that will affect people who are alive right now and in the future. So they're going to be posthumously freed. Does that mean that they were able to marry who they wanted? That they were able to go where they pleased? That they didn't have to worry about being whipped? Of course not. Does it mean that any of them will not have to worry about that in the future? Of course not. If they wanted to make a gesture, they should do something like reparations to the descendants of those slaves (not that I'm in favor of reparations for slavery).

TheHeretic -> RE: Free at (Long, Long) Last (3/6/2013 6:22:00 PM)
I see a pointless and insulting press release action. It is a mockery of the dead, to suggest that such a thing can be corrected.

Politesub53 -> RE: Free at (Long, Long) Last (3/7/2013 4:31:22 AM)
Nice to see all those that replied actually read the whole link. [8\|] "The goal of the bill and the memorial park is to celebrate the culture and contribution of blacks to New Hampshire and bring that history to the fore, Cunningham said."

PeonForHer -> RE: Free at (Long, Long) Last (3/7/2013 6:22:04 AM)
FR I think it's about ghosts and diabolic curses. Certain New Hampshire legislators are hoping that it'll now be safe to fall asleep.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Free at (Long, Long) Last (3/7/2013 4:08:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice Bill would posthumously grant freedom to NH slaves CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — When 20 slaves petitioned New Hampshire two centuries ago seeking their freedom, lawmakers decided the time wasn't right and delayed action. Now, 233 years later, legislators in one of the nation's whitest states have decided the time is right to consider the request. A Senate committee on Wednesday unanimously recommended the full body posthumously emancipate the 14 petitioners who never were granted freedom. Source: Yahoo News I'm honestly not sure what I think about this one. Is it an important gesture, righting an antique wrong? (And I do believe gestures can matter.) Or are well-meaning people editing a stark page of history in order to make themselves feel better? Thoughts? Jeeebus....I guess it's time to sell my place in New Hampshire (who the fuck's gonna do the damn landscaping???)

Real0ne -> RE: Free at (Long, Long) Last (3/7/2013 10:33:31 PM)
well the way this freedom shit came about is that you had 2 choices. One was to wear ankle bracelets as a slave under the yoke, or two wear a collar in a forced franchise contract as a slave to the king or sovereign. Hence immigrants being forced to swear liege(ance) to the flag (jurisdiction) of the (sovereign) US before being allowed to move in and play house. oh and of course the only difference is one you were in chains and a slave under yoke and otherwise freed from the yoke which is a slave to the franchise which of course means you are now taxable LOL. Seriously gotta love this shit. no different than old england.

Charles6682 -> RE: Free at (Long, Long) Last (3/8/2013 12:43:29 AM)
What is New Hampshires motto?"Live Free or Die".These 20 people didn't get the choice to "Live Free".Seems kind of pointless but hey,better late than never,right?

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