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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 2:02:34 PM   
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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 3:09:08 PM   
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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 4:08:40 PM   
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The man is a Jesuit.... Francis Xaiver.

CNN is reporting, and citing the Vatican website as its source, that the name honors Francis of Assisi.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/13/world/europe/vatican-pope-selection/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 4:18:25 PM   
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http://ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/first-controversy-pope-francis-papacy

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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 5:57:23 PM   
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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 5:59:00 PM   
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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 6:20:45 PM   
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I'm just curious how many of the people with strong opinions (and hearts full of hatred) are Catholic to begin with?

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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:12:29 PM   
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And no one is forced to be Catholic either.

There needs to be a major house cleaning in the Vatican and I am hoping they got the right man for the job.

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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:16:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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I'm just curious how many of the people with strong opinions (and hearts full of hatred) are Catholic to begin with?


I wonder that myself.

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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:23:10 PM   
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There needs to be a major house cleaning in the Vatican and I am hoping they got the right man for the job.

My prayers are with him. It must be an unspeakably daunting job to face, particularly at an age when I fervently hope to be well into retirement.

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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:30:39 PM   
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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:31:50 PM   
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I think his age works as a benefit in this case

Greater experience and wisdom?

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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:32:03 PM   
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My prayers are with him. It must be an unspeakably daunting job to face, particularly at an age when I fervently hope to be well into retirement.


He's 76, right? Makes you wonder if the cardinals avoided electing a younger man, just to avoid the shadow of the, "prophecy" hanging over him.



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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:33:42 PM   
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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:35:31 PM   
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I think his age works as a benefit in this case

Greater experience and wisdom?



More of being able to make the hard, theocratic decisions without having to worry about the long term politics.

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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:36:46 PM   
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More of being able to make the hard, theocratic decisions without having to worry about the long term politics.

Good point. I hadn't thought of that.

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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:40:13 PM   
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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:41:11 PM   
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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:43:49 PM   
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RE: The Final Pope - 3/13/2013 7:45:02 PM   
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Those prophecies are worth as much as the ones predicting the end of the world last year.



Well, duh. See the quotes on the word? If people believe in it though, or it is a gift of distraction and attack to those who hate the church, it can still have an impact. Why not let a good man be a good symbol in the time he still has, and run out the number in the kook pages, then bring in someone younger, and more up to the challenges of the job, without handing him the bullshit baggage?

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