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reverseosmosis -> Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 7:17:11 AM)

Hi, I want to describe a hypothetical situation:
The sub male is 28 and the dominant woman is 41. They have known each other 3 years. Its a romantic, loving relationship which somehow also combines domination. She is successful and wealthy. In a conversation she mentions that this cannot last long because of the age difference. She further states that its possible, but she'd have to break him and train him into a pet and she doesn't have the heart to do that to him. After that she tends to not talk about the subject and yet the sub's curiosity is sky high about it.

What could he expect if he was turned into her "pet"? How would a dominant woman go about it? Why don't older-women-younger-men relationships not work long-term and is this an effective solution? What can the sub hope for or has to lose from such?

Thanks, sorry to bother.



MissImmortalPain -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 7:47:18 AM)

The last realaionship I was in the "sub" was ten years younger than I am. It lasted six years. The realationship I am now in the sub is twenty years younger than I am. If a realationship will work or not often has more to do with the people in it than their age.

As for what your domme means by breaking, training, pet...the only way you will know the answer is to get her to tell you what they mean to her. If it works or not will depend a lot on what you are willing, or not willing, to do.



LadyPact -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 7:49:15 AM)

You're asking a hypothetical situation based on what somebody thinks in their mind?

I could take stabs at what she might mean all day long, which wouldn't matter. The only way you are going to know what she means is to ask her.

It's kind of like coming here to say "this woman I know is thinking of a number..... What number is it?"



reverseosmosis -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 7:57:54 AM)

Well, its like she doesn't want to answer and its not proper for me to press the question. Can't you just answer what you would do in her situation? Just curious.



JeffBC -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 9:26:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: reverseosmosis
Well, its like she doesn't want to answer and its not proper for me to press the question. Can't you just answer what you would do in her situation?

OK, you're entire first post was so "lost in fantasy" to me that I don't really have any answer. This one I can tackle though.

If I wanted to date a younger woman then I'd date a younger woman. If she needed to be "trained" either in her eyes or in mine then she wouldn't be a fit for me anyway so I wouldn't spend any time worrying about that.



SeekingTrinity -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 9:32:32 AM)

~FRing it~

OP, based on her words...she sounds like she just isn't that into you that way. So all the hypotheticals that the rest of us aren't going to help you out with it.

I personally don't use the words "training" and "breaking" and "pet" when it comes to submissives. It's not like training to join the SEALS. I can show you the way I want you to do things. But why the hell would I want to break someone? That's just pointless and a little ridiculous.



ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 9:44:53 AM)

Bear in mind Jeff, this is all 'hypothetical.'

Sorry, OP, we aren't big on providing people with wank fodder, though from your post suggests you have plenty.

Here's my advice: Less porn, more real life, okay?



reverseosmosis -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 9:45:49 AM)

Well, I am thinking that since I am young and she is older, after 10 years or some time she thinks I will leave her for someone younger...



reverseosmosis -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 9:53:17 AM)

Is there an answer you have that is helpful without being "wank fodder"?



LadyPact -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 9:55:05 AM)

That part is not unreasonable.

I'm 44. Play partners a decade younger are fine. (I have a few that are that age.) I can tell you though that I'm at the stage in life where I wouldn't want to have someone that age for a relationship. One big reason for this is that you are going to want things that I've already done. Raising children immediately comes to mind. I tell everyone that I'm happy that Mine are grown and out of the house.

I do use the word training. It's for leather protocols and such. A 'pet' in My terminology means a sub type in a less rigid dynamic or somebody who enjoys pet play. The term "breaking" is, in My opinion, basically for amateurs and people who get their ideas from the net or porn.

And the answer is twenty-three. All numbers are twenty-three. (See the movie.)



reverseosmosis -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 10:02:24 AM)

Thanks for a reasonable answer Lady Pact. Is there a link to the movie? Never heard of it. Is this it? (I googled) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_(film)



LadyPact -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 10:16:05 AM)

This is the version that I saw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Number_23



reverseosmosis -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 10:25:17 AM)

Umm... I read the wikipedia story line. I don't get what the movie has to do with it...
Edit:
unless it is 41-28=23, but am not into stuff like that...

2nd Edit:

Are you implying its a self-fulfilling prophecy kind of implant?



LadyPact -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 10:41:28 AM)

You really have to kind of see the movie.

41 would be four plus one which equals 5. 28 minus 5 is 23.



reverseosmosis -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 10:46:04 AM)

quote:

2nd Edit:

Are you implying its a self-fulfilling prophecy kind of implant?


Like she expects me to run after this piece of information like in the movie how they search for more and more info and then the prophecy comes through because they go about it...



TNDommeK -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 11:28:08 AM)

STOOOOOP!! It's too early for math! [:o]



reverseosmosis -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 11:36:29 AM)

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STOOOOOP!! It's too early for math!


LOL. Can you give a non-mathematical solution?



AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 12:11:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: reverseosmosis

Well, its like she doesn't want to answer and its not proper for me to press the question. Can't you just answer what you would do in her situation? Just curious.


If you are in a relationship with this person (and a loving one at that) then it is absolutely proper to press the question.

If a partner of mine said 'we're not going to last unless I do x, which I don't want to do' you bet I'd be pressing the issue. I'd want to know exactly where I stand and why. If someone said we probably weren't going to work out as a couple, then refused to talk about it, I'd take that to mean they don't care enough about our relationship to make it work, and I'd leave.

Sometimes age gaps work out, sometimes they don't, but in my experience relationships where one partner isn't as into it, or relationships where they can't communicate always fail.

As for 'breaking' I usually see that as a porn fantasy term. Why would you want to break someone you care about? In the context you give ('I'd need to break and train you and I don't want to') it sounds like she's saying 'you're not right for me and not worth the effort to improve you'.

Sorry for the harsh.



reverseosmosis -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 1:09:26 PM)

You've got a good point Athena. On the other hand, she has a way with creating suspense.



FrostedFlake -> RE: Training for the long-term (3/15/2013 1:49:59 PM)

Make your point clearly with as little drama as possible.

Listen.

Act accordingly.



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