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How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/16/2013 3:33:28 PM

elelohesterling

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Note: This post is not for "spreading the gospel" only to question if their are any Christian dominants who feel this same release from their faith.

I've been deeply reflecting on my D/s relationship with my wife, and our faith due to various issues, and one thing I have noticed since we have begun our D/s relationship (We did not start D/s until after we were married. We solely had a vanilla relationship.) that Church has become a much more important part of my life, as has my faith. For a bit I wondered why, and I realized what I am about to type. I am curious if anyone else noticed similiriaties between their faith and D/s.

Being in a 24/7 D/s relationship is gratifying yet hard. It is difficult to always be thinking of new ways to push, prod, train, etc my sub into the person that we both feel she needs to be. The responsibilities are enormous, and it is daunting at times that she desires so much from me, and trusts me so completely. It is an amazing gift, but an enormous responsibility I have to always keep in mind. The only time I have found that I can "get away" from being the dominant is in my faith.

I truly believe that I can not responsibly ask my wife to do anything I have not done myself, including submit. For me, I find it hard to trust another human being to submit that way to, so instead I have found that submission to my God, and my faith. And I truly submit, I am the one people wonder why he sings so loud during worship, why when he prays, he hits his knees, and why when most of the time I will not shed a tear, it can be seen regularly after I am done praying, even in the public setting of church.

To have that Submission to God, and a few hours a week where I have the "break" from being dominant and can give my all to God is such a blessing, and a release.

Has anyone noticed this also?

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/16/2013 7:44:54 PM

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i struggle with issues in regard to my faith and D/s. for me it is more about the fact that i am married and my husband is not dom, has no interest in the lifestyle and even worse, no respect for the lifestyle. Add to that he has no interest or respect for a life of faith and we are simply doomed. how to reconcile THAT with a christian based faith is my issue.

i continually see the precepts of a D/s relationship when i study the bible. It is natural. Genesis, Corinthians, Timothy, Ephesians, Peter, Romans... you cant get away from it :) i think what is truly wonderful is a man who is dominant admitting he submits to Gods authority. Be proud and see it as the strength it is.

Your Maria is doubly blessed indeed.

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/16/2013 7:58:00 PM

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I have my own verses to submit our lifestyle, but I am curious what verses specifically you were speaking of, if you would not mind sharing, it would be much appreciated.

And as yo your situation, I have no idea what you should do. I hestitate to advocate divorce unless their is abuse or infeditilitity, the only thing I can suggest otherwise is that you perhaps submit to him willingly, in all except where it violates your morals, and show him what you desire through your actions.

And I do thank you for your kind words, they meant a lot, and I actually teared up that someone outside of my life supports our decisions when it has been such an uphil battle with our parents and others who we respect in the faith.

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i struggle with issues in regard to my faith and D/s. for me it is more about the fact that i am married and my husband is not dom, has no interest in the lifestyle and even worse, no respect for the lifestyle. Add to that he has no interest or respect for a life of faith and we are simply doomed. how to reconcile THAT with a christian based faith is my issue.

i continually see the precepts of a D/s relationship when i study the bible. It is natural. Genesis, Corinthians, Timothy, Ephesians, Peter, Romans... you cant get away from it :) i think what is truly wonderful is a man who is dominant admitting he submits to Gods authority. Be proud and see it as the strength it is.

Your Maria is doubly blessed indeed.

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/16/2013 7:58:49 PM

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To most christians, I would be labelled as 'faithless' or a heathen because I am a Pagan.
But considering that the relatively modern christian religions have borrowed/stolen a lot of old-style Paganism, I would consider myself of christian-style; although to me, that's ass-backwards because we had it 10+ millenia before christians 'claimed' it.

Anyhoo.... I put myself first and my faith second and that way I avoid any conflicts and clashes.
Why?
Because faith does not feed me or pay my bills and is certainly not responsible for my relationships.
I, alone, am responsible for all of that and I cannot blame/include faith in any of it.

So for me, my faith does not interfere with me and my life at all and I can quite happily separate the two.

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/16/2013 7:59:37 PM

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Wow, I'm glad I don't have to worry about these issues. I follow no (blind) faith.

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/16/2013 8:04:13 PM

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My faith is not blind, it is actually quite well researched and would take a book to lay out what I believe and why I believe it. I do agree that alot of Christians believe what they believe without investigating, and get the Bible and it's message all FUBAR, but for me, my struggle with faith has been ongoing for more than 14 years of historical, biblical, and secular study before I settled well into my faith.

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Wow, I'm glad I don't have to worry about these issues. I follow no (blind) faith.

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/16/2013 8:10:01 PM

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I don't believe in the religious teaching of the current bible so that is a moot point.

As for faith.......well I am the boss and have faith I will always be the boss.

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/16/2013 8:18:48 PM

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If you are having an on-going struggle, then perhaps you have invested your time and energy into the wrong 'faith'.

And, IMHO, if you have spent a long time studying the bible and investigating the history properly, you would have realised that most of it is nothing more than second-hand stories told by other people and mostly at a later date than when the so-called 'events' were supposed to have happened.
And if you have 'settled' into your faith and don't question it or it's roots - that means you are following it blindly.

On that basis, I would not choose christianity purely because it's foundation is on extremely shaky ground and based on an ethereal being that has never been proven to exist except in the minds of it's followers.

At least I can see, touch, feel, taste and smell the elements of my faith!

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/16/2013 9:18:59 PM

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Master and I are both Christians and neither of us struggle with our faith and M/s. We are the type where the bible states that wives submit to their husbands and that the husband is the Godhead of the family.

As for submitting to God, I guess we don't see it so much as submitting to God as God being our father and we are his children.

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/16/2013 9:41:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

If you are having an on-going struggle, then perhaps you have invested your time and energy into the wrong 'faith'.

Anyone who never finds their beliefs about the ultimate nature of reality challenged has lost touch with it.

K.

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/16/2013 10:48:06 PM

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quote:

If you are having an on-going struggle, then perhaps you have invested your time and energy into the wrong 'faith'.

Kirata said it better than I could, but to whit, I grew up in a way I constantly question everything.

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And, IMHO, if you have spent a long time studying the bible and investigating the history properly, you would have realised that most of it is nothing more than second-hand stories told by other people and mostly at a later date than when the so-called 'events' were supposed to have happened.

Some events in the Bible were written this way, others were written very close to the time it was reported to occur such as 1st and 2nd Samuel. Also the bible has a lot of historical evidence to back up most of it, ecspecially the portions I am concerned with (Jesus and his life, death, and ressurection) For instance their are more secular events to back up the death and ressurection written at the time, then their are similiar accounts of the death of Julius Ceasar.

In addittion we have a very through knowledge of how the Bible has been passed down, and therefore it's accuracy in the original launguages.

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And if you have 'settled' into your faith and don't question it or it's roots - that means you are following it blindly.

By settled, I mean that I am at peace with my decision to follow my faith, not that I never question or continue to study.

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On that basis, I would not choose christianity purely because it's foundation is on extremely shaky ground and based on an ethereal being that has never been proven to exist except in the minds of it's followers.

At least I can see, touch, feel, taste and smell the elements of my faith!

Through my experiences and study God has shown his existence and proven it to me, that is enough for me. No matter what others choose to do or believe them, I will choose to love them as Christ has called me to do so.

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/17/2013 2:36:34 AM

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I will send those specific scriptures after church direct to your profile. Being sick and napping most of the past two days my sleep schedule is messed up and I hope to get a few hours before second service.

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/17/2013 1:11:27 PM

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Looking forward to it.

Did you make it to church?

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I will send those specific scriptures after church direct to your profile. Being sick and napping most of the past two days my sleep schedule is messed up and I hope to get a few hours before second service.

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/17/2013 2:42:42 PM

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Church was great thanks.. a special 4 weeks focus in Acts on the Resurection. We ended with one of my fav songs. Mighty To Save.

i had some family stuff to do afterwards and life with kids can get hectic... but you have cmail *smiles*

Takes me back to college and studying to write a paper for hermeneutics.

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/18/2013 2:57:53 PM

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Thanks for the new word!!

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RE: How does your faith affect your D/s? - 3/18/2013 4:11:35 PM

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I thank God* that B found me!

*The Unitarian God, not the Judeo/Christian God

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