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Aswad -> RE: Warning: EU report could effect this and similar sites Tuesday next (4/11/2013 5:32:55 AM)
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ORIGINAL: descrite
Why do they ape our culture, crave our justice, envy our wealth?
What the fuck have you been smoking, descrite?
American justice is a running joke, a cautionary tale about what happens if you forget what justice is.
American culture, several important parts of it, are not being aped, but rather held in contempt and poked fun at.
American wealth is the distant memory of a place that used to get something out of screwing the future, but now can't make ends meet, even while continuing to screw the future, burning the candle in both ends and now spending the population alongside the natural resources (and still at an unsustainable rate).
"American quality" is an oxymoron.
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Because we're better.
No. You had more potential.
Which makes it tragic how you squandered it.
I mean, seriously, it used to be the case that the US was really going places, now it's racing to the bottom. The greatest experiment ever, and it failed. Abysmally. It's gone from a place I wanted to move into, to a place I'm reluctant to even visit. From a place that held the promise of humanity's future, to a pen of 300 million rats and slaves living alongside a few million human beings that can't seem to stop the boat from capsizing and for the most part don't seem to care to.
Get back to me in a couple of decades, tell me again how the US was on the right course...
... and I'll congratulate you on accurate use of the past tense.
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Our poor people have cell phones, Nikes, extra layers of fat, and can get fresh fruit out of season-- they live better than pashas and warlords the rest of the world over.
Nice to see you comparing yourself to second- and third-world countries. That's the most honest thing in your post. See, the median household in the US, by Norwegian standards, is so far below the poverty line as to qualify for emergency aid, and by German standards, is below what is considered the existential minimum. When Norwegians think of third world countries, if we haven't actually seen one, what we imagine is what in reality passes for getting by in the US.
60% of households in the USA have a gross income below $58K, going by 2005 figures.
Your median is $46K, and your average is $63K.
By contrast, in Norway, about $54K net income (i.e. after tax) for a household of two adults with no children is being poor. At that level of income, the usual copayment of up to $350 per year for healthcare is covered by emergency aid, so scratch that expense from the comparison. There is virtually no tax in this bracket, either, obviously, since it's below the point where you could reasonably be expected to contribute financially to the community. The average gross income here is about $90K or so.
The typical¹ American household has $20K or less per year, gross income.
Tell me again how rich Americans are.
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I say again: fuck Europe.
I'll say that more loudly than you: FUCK EUROPE.
Any healthy society has critics, and I'm a critic of mine.
But there simply ain't no font large enough to do the US justice.
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Their legislation, communal economy, surveillance society, and conditioned response to bloodlines of despots is reprehensible, and no sane model to desire.
What the fuck are you even talking about?
The only area in which we're even close as regards surveillance is the DRD, which is increasingly being rejected by the various supreme courts around the EU as being unconstitutional. The US is the gold standard for surveillance. We have some politicians that would like to saunter down the trail blazed by the US, but other politicians are largely keeping the trend in check. So, scratch that point.
Royalism, obviously, is a historical artifact, and it probably won't last long. The primary function of royalty across the bulk of Europe is ceremonial and ambassadorial, whereas the US has an oligarchy with real power instead. As a sidebar, Norway elected to have its royal family by plebiscite, which the would-be monarch also insisted on, and this was part of a diplomatic process; around these parts, his power is limited to insisting that a new law be opened to plebiscite, which involves abdicating.
Communal economy... your definitions tend to differ from mine, so please supply yours, then we'll talk.
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They continue to export bad ideas, and the topic of this thread is a perfect example.
As you may have noted, we voted down the legislation in question, a legislation that would've brought us closer to the US. I've no idea how we're exporting bad ideas, unless you're importing them, which raises the question of why? I am inclined to think it might be because even our bad ideas beat what you've got, in a lot of areas. We've already imported most of the few good ideas you had (and don't get me wrong, you had some really great ideas), and then went back to creating new ideas and figuring out if they're good or bad.
And, just to reiterate: what the fuck have you been smoking?
IWYW,
— Aswad.
¹ "Typical" meaning this is the peak of the bell curve.
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