RE: A Tale of Remarkable Courage

Collarspace Discussion Forums

Home Login Search

RE: A Tale of Remarkable Courage

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: A Tale of Remarkable Courage

Page: << < prev 1 [2]

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: A Tale of Remarkable Courage - 3/22/2013 2:18:04 PM

FunCouple5280

Posts: 559
Joined: 10/30/2012
Status: offline

I know they all didn't, and I know they aren't all afraid to talk about it.

But if you are out and about and an American asked you such, and you were in the SS or you did participate, it is highly unlikely you would admit it.

Having lived in Germany, it is sore subject, and many gloss over the discussion and play the blame game. He sounded like he was trying to get someone to confess. I actually met a number of Germans who gave me the 'the americans were the nice bombers, it was those damn spiteful British' line. This is pertinent because I was in Dresden. As a guest in their country I never brought it up unless I was forced to. I thought it was rude to ask about the holocaust and such, but if they wanted to aske rude questions about Americans then I was happy to ask them about their checkered past.

(in reply to Owner59)

Profile

Post #: 21

RE: A Tale of Remarkable Courage - 3/22/2013 2:42:17 PM

Yachtie

Posts: 3593
Joined: 1/18/2012
Status: offline

FR

I spent some time in Austria in '72. In a conversation with the father of a girl I had met, he related that he had been impressed into the German Army. No choice. That he did not like. He also said he shot down two Soviet Planes. To that he smiled.

_____________________________

“We all know it’s going to end badly, but in the meantime we can make some money.” - Jim Cramer, CNBC

“Those who ‘abjure’ violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.” - George Orwell

(in reply to FunCouple5280)

Profile

Post #: 22

RE: A Tale of Remarkable Courage - 3/22/2013 2:59:46 PM

Owner59

Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: FunCouple5280

I know they all didn't, and I know they aren't all afraid to talk about it.

But if you are out and about and an American asked you such, and you were in the SS or you did participate, it is highly unlikely you would admit it.

Having lived in Germany, it is sore subject, and many gloss over the discussion and play the blame game. He sounded like he was trying to get someone to confess. I actually met a number of Germans who gave me the 'the americans were the nice bombers, it was those damn spiteful British' line. This is pertinent because I was in Dresden. As a guest in their country I never brought it up unless I was forced to. I thought it was rude to ask about the holocaust and such, but if they wanted to aske rude questions about Americans then I was happy to ask them about their checkered past.

Recently I watched "Auschwitz - Inside the Nazi State"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446610/

Where they were interviewing a former SS officer.He was one of a few who admitted publicly to war crimes and when asked why he didn`t feel bad about what he`d done to innocent people(an often repeated question, in this documentary)he replied was they(the Jews) were all lazy and didn`t want to work and stole and lived off others,etc....almost word for word what republicans say about poor folks, here in America.

I`d agree that many SS wouldn`t be so open.....this guy seemed to get a kick out of outraging viewers.

Another former SS,Oskar Groening ,who also wasn`t sorry about what he did when asked,said he really didn`t have a choice and had to do what he was told and wasn`t going to beat himself up for forever,just so he wouldn`t go insane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVfFHJE0e1g

His mission instead is debunking Holocaust deniers.....

< Message edited by Owner59 -- 3/22/2013 3:01:02 PM >

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to FunCouple5280)

Profile

Post #: 23

RE: A Tale of Remarkable Courage - 3/22/2013 4:10:04 PM

eulero83

Posts: 1470
Joined: 11/4/2005
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto

When I lived in Germany in the 1970's, every German man I met of the appropriate age to have fought in WWII told me they fought exclusively on the Russian front - and not one of them admitted participatiing in the invasions and subsequent occupations of France, Beligium, Demark, Norway or the Netherlands or fighting against the British or the Americans in Europe, North Africa, Italy or Sicily.

Not one.

There could be a reason, I actually don't know how many person you asked but the estern front involved 17 milions of soldiers, the western involved 4 milions this means that 4 german conscripts out of 5 were fighting on the eastern front, anyhow they could just have been trying to avoid an akward "yes, I could have killed your uncle" discussion. Than some could say most of the lagers where in eastern europe and that's also where most of the war crimes took place.

p.s. Sicily is part of Italy

(in reply to Fightdirecto)

Profile

Post #: 24

RE: A Tale of Remarkable Courage - 3/22/2013 4:28:31 PM

Owner59

Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: FunCouple5280

I know they all didn't, and I know they aren't all afraid to talk about it.

But if you are out and about and an American asked you such, and you were in the SS or you did participate, it is highly unlikely you would admit it.

Having lived in Germany, it is sore subject, and many gloss over the discussion and play the blame game. He sounded like he was trying to get someone to confess. I actually met a number of Germans who gave me the 'the americans were the nice bombers, it was those damn spiteful British' line. This is pertinent because I was in Dresden. As a guest in their country I never brought it up unless I was forced to. I thought it was rude to ask about the holocaust and such, but if they wanted to aske rude questions about Americans then I was happy to ask them about their checkered past.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xnNhzgcWTk

John Cleese`s awkward moments.....

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to FunCouple5280)

Profile

Post #: 25

RE: A Tale of Remarkable Courage - 3/22/2013 7:35:08 PM

vincentML

Posts: 9980
Joined: 10/31/2009
Status: offline