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Real0ne -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/23/2013 9:53:16 AM)
wtf are you talking about? you do not know what fractional banking is either huh. Damn you read that whole pamphlet in 30 seconds, whats your secret? pretty soon you will need to wash your face with a steam pressure washer

Kirata -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/23/2013 9:53:41 AM)
I hope this means that silver will go back up. K.

mnottertail -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/23/2013 9:54:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne wtf are you talking about? you do not know what fractional banking is either huh. Damn you read that whole pamphlet in 30 seconds, whats your secret? pretty soon you will need to wash your face with a steam pressure washer There was no pamphlet, you see paper and video are two different media. More horseshit on top of asswipe.

Real0ne -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/23/2013 10:05:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne wtf are you talking about? you do not know what fractional banking is either huh. Damn you read that whole pamphlet in 30 seconds, whats your secret? pretty soon you will need to wash your face with a steam pressure washer There was no pamphlet, you see paper and video are two different media. More horseshit on top of asswipe. so now you need an expert to show you how to use your computer as well. quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Well, first of all it has Ron Paul in it. Second of all I am not going to watch some horseshit for a half an hour on youtube. I watched about 30 seconds in different spots all totalled and that which I saw was not incorrect. Doesnt mean it is correct overall. Yes, the congress taps the fed for bond issues. Yes, the Fed prints the money. Yes, Andrew Jackson presided over the dissolution of a national bank. Thats all I saw and will find correct. So, what nefarious conspiracy is afoot? Credible citations by experts please, not tinfoilers, not asswipers. Cuz you got nothing with your Rothchilds cartel hallucinations. so you skipped through it and just by the luck of the draw seen jackson and paul (who incidently had/have the same goal) and you did not see anything regarding the creation of money and you further admit you are not capable of discussing this matter without parroting the opinion of authority. youza good slave! [AGAIN:] Modern Money Mechanics.pdf CLICK the above red stuff with the left mouse button^^^^^ so tell me who you think will believe your opinion is worth anything when you need all these citations that you should already have full knowledge of to even level a reasonable rebuttal in the first place. Oh wait I forgot everything too complicated is a tinfoil conspiracy theory LMAO

Real0ne -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/23/2013 10:10:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata I hope this means that silver will go back up. K. metals are only a break even hedge against inflation you know, and they still sock you for transaction costs. (which of course is why the only constitutional money is gold and silver, that was abandoned) Hell try to take payment in buillion sometime if you want to see tears flow!

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/24/2013 6:55:08 PM)
The simple fact is, the federal reserve and the fractional banking system was indeed set up to protect its members....not you. Whether or not the system fails is yet to be seen but I can add, the older I get, the less tin foil I see in most of this stuff. Having owned multiple businesses in my life (which by no means makes me any kind of expert in monetary policy), I know how to read a balance sheet, even one as complex as the federal reserves', and I can inform anyone who cares to listen that, the federal reserve is in fact propping up just about every world currency at the moment (through obsequious funding of the IMF and the World Bank, directly, which is in fact illegal under the federal reserves' charter)....and they (the other countries) won't be able to pay it back. So, does that mean at some point the collapse of the U.S. Dollar or even worse, the entire world currency market? That one I'm not smart enough to dissect but you know what they say....in the end....it sure as hell looks like a duck to me.

MrRodgers -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/24/2013 7:33:41 PM)
First, the presses are NOT running. The treasury could NOT print 'Federal Reserve Notes' fast enough kinkroids. The fed is NOT now printing new money and never has actually printed new currency to add to circulation. The QE1, QE2 and some say the ongoing QE3 are simply hitting a key on a computer that has the fed trade Fed notes/bonds for shit-paper the banks have on their books and thus transfers that money to the asset side of the books from the liability side. As for fed ownership. This came out in the 1976 House banking committee report as follows: Here It is quite a read and a long one but it is my understanding that the US govt. owns 20% of the fed and privateers own 80%. Profits are limited to 6% return on equity with the balance going to the US Treasury. The fed has been sending actual cash money in the form of 100's of billion over the 20th century to the US Treasury. That the fed is now currently buying US debt, the same debt the taxpayers (treasury) any fed debt buyer, plus interest. The income tax was passed to pay the coming and since ongoing interest on these bonds. The fed's rationale was to steady the money supply, it has not, to steady the debt service, it has not and to control inflation...it has not. It was also to eliminate economic bubbles, it has not. We are now stuck with it as when Kennedy issued executive order 11110 to remove fed notes (as currency) from circulation to be replaced with silver certificates...was one of many reasons he bought himself a big hole in his head. When has the capitalist NOT 'liquidated' anybody as powerful, when they perceived they weren't going to play ball. Reagan wasn't up to all that but otherwise wasn't going to play ball. It took [them] all of 69 days to shoot his ass. RONALD REAGAN was supposed to die kinkroids. If you wish to believe yet another BS story about yet another troubled loner over some ridiculous crush on a movie actor...go ahead. After that attempt on his life...he played ball and went from $1 trillion in fed debt to $4 trillion.

AlittleCrazy098 -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/24/2013 7:36:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 Ok, I looked at it. Take careful note of the comentary at around 3m55s - a very carefully crafted slight-of-hand comment. This is where they craftilly ADD the $9bn 'excess' on top of the original 10bn loan making it $19bn. In the real world, if you use that $9bn, for anything, there's only $1bn left, not the original $10bn. At least with my maths... 10 - 9 = 1, not 19!! That's double-counting the $9bn and it slips past the viewer unnoticed unless you are paying a lot of attention. A very clever play on words indeed. And that blows the whole argument clean out of the water [:)] A clever PR exercise to baffle the Joe Average into how this works. Didn't fool me one bit! [:D] I believe they were referring to a type of multiplier effect; though, they didn't call it that. There are many types of multiplier effects. In one example the money goes into a bank which loans that money out to a business. When a business takes that money it will spend it on buying materials for instance. Then the material company will use the money to extract more materials and so on and so forth. Hence the money multiplies as it transfers from one persons pocket to another. All though, the video didn't explain it like that which confused me. I never heard of a bank loaning out 90 percent of a loan on a repeated bases until it multiplies to 900 percent of it's original value. However, a bank could take that money and loan it to other banks which might loan that money to other business or people. In that case the multiplier effect would be increased exponentially.

AlittleCrazy098 -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/24/2013 7:40:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers When has the capitalist NOT 'liquidated' anybody as powerful, when they perceived they weren't going to play ball. I wouldn't call these people capitalists. Maybe corporatists but not capitalists.

myker -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/24/2013 9:28:02 PM)
quote: Why didn't they teach this in school? I cant imagine! "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." Henry Ford http://www.iwise.com/3sVel

MrRodgers -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/25/2013 2:34:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AlittleCrazy098 quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers When has the capitalist NOT 'liquidated' anybody as powerful, when they perceived they weren't going to play ball. I wouldn't call these people capitalists. Maybe corporatists but not capitalists. Early to bed, early to rise eh ? They are very close partners in their venality the only difference being the private corporation, not having turned his institution into paper. However, they all have a fiduciary responsibility...not to serve society first.

Moonhead -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/25/2013 7:25:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AlittleCrazy098 quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers When has the capitalist NOT 'liquidated' anybody as powerful, when they perceived they weren't going to play ball. I wouldn't call these people capitalists. Maybe corporatists but not capitalists. Does that go for Howard Hughes?

AlittleCrazy098 -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/25/2013 2:36:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers quote: ORIGINAL: AlittleCrazy098 quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers When has the capitalist NOT 'liquidated' anybody as powerful, when they perceived they weren't going to play ball. I wouldn't call these people capitalists. Maybe corporatists but not capitalists. Early to bed, early to rise eh ? They are very close partners in their venality the only difference being the private corporation, not having turned his institution into paper. However, they all have a fiduciary responsibility...not to serve society first. I do agree that the first responsibility to a capitalist and corporatist aren't to serve the society. However, there are a lot more differences than "being the private corporation, not having turned his institution into paper." Which, I don't even know what you said even means. By nature, corporatism is defined according to sjsu as an "economy of a country [to]... be organized into major interest groups (sometimes called corporations) and representatives of those interest groups settle any problems through negotiation and joint agreement." In other words, corporations are an extension of government by which the corporation would settle economic distention through the process of bargaining. While the definition of capitalism is according to an "economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market]Websters dictionary as being "an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market." Which means that there is no bargaining happening between corporations but the free market adjusting itself out. When the two definitions are considered one sees a very significant void between the two systems and thus would see very different types of people advocating for each system For instance, a corporatist will support Keynesian economic policies, centralized banking, fiat monetary systems, subsidy programs, tax exemptions for industries or corporations, stimulus packages, "too big to fail," and total privatizations of entire industries. By contrast, capitalists will support free competition, no "too big to fail" policies, a gold standard or equivalent type of monetary system, no centralized banking, and no stimulus packages. When you consider the two philosophies there are very real differences between them that should be considered when looking at someone advocating capitalism vs. someone pushing for corporatism.

jlf1961 -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/25/2013 3:30:17 PM)
The world monetary system will not collapse, the UN will have everyone implanted with RFID chips linked to your bank accounts, with full personal history and all that other stuff. Once that is done, the Illuminati will send their agents out to pick up people like RO and place them in re education camps. \ Also next Tuesday at 6AM local time, a major earthquake will occur on the west coast making Las Vegas a sea side town, President Obama will make being a Republican a Federal Capital crime, Charlie Sheen will clean up and become a Jesuit Monk, Lindsey Lohan will suddenly revert back to her clean wholesome self, and the loch ness monster will be captured at a Hooters in Newark New Jersey.

Real0ne -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/25/2013 4:44:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AlittleCrazy098 When the two definitions are considered one sees a very significant void between the two systems and thus would see very different types of people advocating for each system For instance, a corporatist will support Keynesian economic policies, centralized banking, fiat monetary systems, subsidy programs, tax exemptions for industries or corporations, stimulus packages, "too big to fail," and total privatizations of entire industries. By contrast, capitalists will support free competition, no "too big to fail" policies, a gold standard or equivalent type of monetary system, no centralized banking, and no stimulus packages. When you consider the two philosophies there are very real differences between them that should be considered when looking at someone advocating capitalism vs. someone pushing for corporatism. well you are getting warmer. its not gold per se that is the only factor here, though its quite important. The idea was that when you were paid in gold or silver you had "property" something that you could sell in any market if the government got too far out of line. Fed res notes are not your property and you do not own them even though you earned the value they represent. They can be recalled at any time. they are the property of the federal reserve alone. The reason gold is important is that it provides a hard cap that congress can not over come automatically limiting spending. Now that worked great until naughty non-conspiracy types forced us into war and spend beyond our means and then they financed both sides of the war. Probly just some broke assed dimminati hillbilly conspiring with the piggies are in the barn to take over the world. So then the order of the day was to dry up liquidity to prove how important an elastic monetary system was over proper management of a capped system. now the fiat system could work just fine if it were capped. If most government were abolished since much of this money goes into their trust funds and is squirelled away while they cry they are broke. Gold always goes up precisely with inflation and maintains its buy power and value, the paper we use goes down and we are now about 1 penny per dollar of actual buying power. So if you put a paper fed res note [buck] in your pocket in 2001 its worth less than 50 cents today, where as a [buck] in gold would be worth 1 dollar today and you suffer no loss as a result of government and banking mismanagement. (which is always just a freak coincidence that would happen)

Real0ne -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/25/2013 4:50:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers First, the presses are NOT running. The treasury could NOT print 'Federal Reserve Notes' fast enough kinkroids. The fed is NOT now printing new money and never has actually printed new currency to add to circulation. The QE1, QE2 and some say the ongoing QE3 are simply hitting a key on a computer that has the fed trade Fed notes/bonds for shit-paper the banks have on their books and thus transfers that money to the asset side of the books from the liability side. As for fed ownership. This came out in the 1976 House banking committee report as follows: Here It is quite a read and a long one but it is my understanding that the US govt. owns 20% of the fed and privateers own 80%. Profits are limited to 6% return on equity with the balance going to the US Treasury. The fed has been sending actual cash money in the form of 100's of billion over the 20th century to the US Treasury. That the fed is now currently buying US debt, the same debt the taxpayers (treasury) any fed debt buyer, plus interest. The income tax was passed to pay the coming and since ongoing interest on these bonds. The fed's rationale was to steady the money supply, it has not, to steady the debt service, it has not and to control inflation...it has not. It was also to eliminate economic bubbles, it has not. We are now stuck with it as when Kennedy issued executive order 11110 to remove fed notes (as currency) from circulation to be replaced with silver certificates...was one of many reasons he bought himself a big hole in his head. When has the capitalist NOT 'liquidated' anybody as powerful, when they perceived they weren't going to play ball. Reagan wasn't up to all that but otherwise wasn't going to play ball. It took [them] all of 69 days to shoot his ass. RONALD REAGAN was supposed to die kinkroids. If you wish to believe yet another BS story about yet another troubled loner over some ridiculous crush on a movie actor...go ahead. After that attempt on his life...he played ball and went from $1 trillion in fed debt to $4 trillion. quote: Chart 1 reveals ... Examination of the charts and text in the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976 and the current stockholders list of the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks show this same family control. no wonder jlf has to clean out his pants! LOL

Real0ne -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/25/2013 4:59:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 The world monetary system will not collapse, the UN will have everyone implanted with RFID chips linked to your bank accounts, with full personal history and all that other stuff. so whats with all these countries going under? japan, russia, greece, new zealand? So since you think its so funny you obviously must be a monetary expert, so why dont you explain to us how the interest can be paid off in this money monopoly that the feds have.

Real0ne -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/26/2013 5:53:53 AM)
suffice to say aside from making unfounded smart remarks my opponents (as usual) leave the table when the rubber meets the road and are required to explain themselves. LOL Grade: FAIL!

MrRodgers -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/26/2013 9:06:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 The world monetary system will not collapse, the UN will have everyone implanted with RFID chips linked to your bank accounts, with full personal history and all that other stuff. so whats with all these countries going under? japan, russia, greece, new zealand? So since you think its so funny you obviously must be a monetary expert, so why dont you explain to us how the interest can be paid off in this money monopoly that the feds have. Japan is not 'going under' they just have a history of printing (literally) billions of yen, the banks way over-leveragd and are taking more than a 'lost decade' to clear out the shit paper. Russia is not going under because they have more oil than God yet one I think could still buy a pound of rubles with a dollar while their banks are as corrupt as the ruling party and have no real money and as for Greece and New Zealand ? They are a test case of a rather small system taking the Japanese route and owing others money not just mostly themselves. I could expand and add that there isn't a single banking system on the planet that operates in a free market that also doesn't then and for obviously capitalist/banking gambling yet risk averse reasons...require socialism of banking risk. Once the socialism of the bankers doesn't work (not enough money) the taxpayers are on the hook and when they can't afford it...HELP !! Like I've been trying to tell you all, society exists to serve these institutions not the other way around and the only difference between the bankers and Bernie Madoff is Madoff didn't have the govt. to bail him out. The international banking community are the biggest whores on two legs people.

MrRodgers -> RE: Why Our Monetary System Will Crash....Gonna be a great ride! (3/26/2013 9:18:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 The world monetary system will not collapse, the UN will have everyone implanted with RFID chips linked to your bank accounts, with full personal history and all that other stuff. Once that is done, the Illuminati will send their agents out to pick up people like RO and place them in re education camps. \ Also next Tuesday at 6AM local time, a major earthquake will occur on the west coast making Las Vegas a sea side town, President Obama will make being a Republican a Federal Capital crime, Charlie Sheen will clean up and become a Jesuit Monk, Lindsey Lohan will suddenly revert back to her clean wholesome self, and the loch ness monster will be captured at a Hooters in Newark New Jersey. Ah but that chip won't have MY pin #, so there. Sure would like to know just who the 'Illuminati' is. Even George Washington feared or at least referenced this group. I am thinking even he was talking international bankers. Sure wouldn't surprise me.

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