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MrRodgers -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 1:16:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

It's quite conceivable that this is how it could begin. Insiders getting theirs while extolling the virtues of the unwashed metaphorically "eating cake". Ya know, the guillotine works just fine, even in this modern age. Saves on bullets too. [8D]

But of course, there are those who will say the unwashed are but paying their fair share.[:'(]




Since you are in the "no bailouts" camp. Whats your alternative answer ?

Fuck....... I tried to keep a straight face while asking you that.


The alternative is capitalist heresy, make the borrows pay through a complete liquidation and every fucking penny they have goes to these banks.

Oh that's right, the hallowed corporation can walk away and the banks are fucked. Gotta love capitalism. I mean why would I use my own money when my co. can borrow it and if things blow up...walk away.

When the smoke clears you have something much more manageable but that would not be 'financially correct.'




MrRodgers -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 1:25:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

HO HO HO -


There is no other alternative but to free Cyprus from the bonds of the troika and the memorandum, House of Representatives President Yiannakis Omirou has said.

Omirou talked about the troika demands, which according to him will multiply and will turn Cyprus to a colony of the worst possible type and warned “I would like to send a message to the Cyprus people that there is no other way, there is no alternative apart from freeing (the country) from the troika’s and the memorandum’s bonds”.

He noted that certainly, “this road will demand sacrifices”, adding that “by leaving the troika and the EMS behind us, we will ensure our national independence, our national sovereignty, our moral integrity and our economic independence”.



The weather is better in Cyprus than Iceland too.[8D]


edit: also of note -

Over the weekend, Australia appears to have come to the same conclusion, with the Australian reporting that the land down under is set to say goodbye to the world's "reserve currency" in its trade dealings with the world's biggest marginal economic power, China, and will enable the direct convertibility of the Australian dollar into Chinese yuan, without US Dollar intermediation, in the process "slashing costs for thousands of business" and also confirming speculation that China is fully intent on, little by little, chipping away at the dollar's reserve currency status until one day it no longer is.


The Almighty Dollar shall be the Almighty Dollar, till it ain't.



One country and its trading with another single country does not change much of anything. There is the rest of the world to consider.

The fact is that the world still maintains much more confidence in the US dollar then all other currencies of any consequence. While that is the case, the dollar will still remain king.




Moonhead -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 1:27:36 PM)

FR:
Does somebody have money invested in Cyprus?




MrRodgers -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 1:32:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

FR:
Does somebody have money invested in Cyprus?

I don't but I am in Iraqi and Syrian govt. bonds though. Remember, you don't lose money...until you sell them.




Yachtie -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 1:32:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

FR:
Does somebody have money invested in Cyprus?



Not anymore[8D]




Moonhead -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 2:04:32 PM)

So why the whining, then?




Politesub53 -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 3:50:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

So why the whining, then?


Look right. [8D]




LookieNoNookie -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 4:20:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Never forget Yachtie, you have to posts links (and a link proves that it happened....not common sense or logic....or even, god forbid, actual study), otherwise it didn't happen (because no one else but a poster is actually capable of doing their own homework or follow through) and if you ever point something out, or use personal experience (as in having been there/done that) ever, you have to prove with 47 experts (and links again...don't forget the links), every possible point to people who (haven't been there/done that and so, it's not real to them, even though it may be fact indeed) don't know how to read, don't understand semantics or, can't grasp that your first point ended after the period and when they see a new capital letter, that may (or may not) be the beginning of the second or a new point.

Oh, one other thing, it must be written in a way that they understand....not necessarily what you meant or how you would have written had you been speaking to someone who has a grasp on the subject, even if what you wrote is clear to a 9 year old who has been living under a bush for his or her entire life with no access to any intellectual tools of any kind.

So, simply, if what you write is misinterpreted, those are the facts, not in fact, what you wrote.

See?


More off topic drivel from you, nothing new there then.





(My point was just made)




Politesub53 -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 4:26:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Never forget Yachtie, you have to posts links (and a link proves that it happened....not common sense or logic....or even, god forbid, actual study), otherwise it didn't happen (because no one else but a poster is actually capable of doing their own homework or follow through) and if you ever point something out, or use personal experience (as in having been there/done that) ever, you have to prove with 47 experts (and links again...don't forget the links), every possible point to people who (haven't been there/done that and so, it's not real to them, even though it may be fact indeed) don't know how to read, don't understand semantics or, can't grasp that your first point ended after the period and when they see a new capital letter, that may (or may not) be the beginning of the second or a new point.

Oh, one other thing, it must be written in a way that they understand....not necessarily what you meant or how you would have written had you been speaking to someone who has a grasp on the subject, even if what you wrote is clear to a 9 year old who has been living under a bush for his or her entire life with no access to any intellectual tools of any kind.

So, simply, if what you write is misinterpreted, those are the facts, not in fact, what you wrote.

See?


More off topic drivel from you, nothing new there then.





(My point was just made)


You would like to think so. I suggest you give your head a shake and re-read the whole thread.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 4:46:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Never forget Yachtie, you have to posts links (and a link proves that it happened....not common sense or logic....or even, god forbid, actual study), otherwise it didn't happen (because no one else but a poster is actually capable of doing their own homework or follow through) and if you ever point something out, or use personal experience (as in having been there/done that) ever, you have to prove with 47 experts (and links again...don't forget the links), every possible point to people who (haven't been there/done that and so, it's not real to them, even though it may be fact indeed) don't know how to read, don't understand semantics or, can't grasp that your first point ended after the period and when they see a new capital letter, that may (or may not) be the beginning of the second or a new point.

Oh, one other thing, it must be written in a way that they understand....not necessarily what you meant or how you would have written had you been speaking to someone who has a grasp on the subject, even if what you wrote is clear to a 9 year old who has been living under a bush for his or her entire life with no access to any intellectual tools of any kind.

So, simply, if what you write is misinterpreted, those are the facts, not in fact, what you wrote.

See?


More off topic drivel from you, nothing new there then.





(My point was just made)


You would like to think so. I suggest you give your head a shake and re-read the whole thread.


I'm so glad you're here to educate me.




YN -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 5:12:09 PM)

Don't worry, the thinking he espouses and which is represented by his champion David Cameron is doing as proper a job of destroying the UK as you could ask for.

If I conquered the English and wished to severely punish properly them for generations I would install Tory rule, as a condition of their subjugation.

And getting Brussels' thumb on the UK's banking and financial system is a priority with them, if you note, much of the news regarding the conflicts twixt Brussels and London regard the English banks and financial system and rules and regulations, the English will be singing a different song when it is their turn to get "rectified" by the 4th Reich.

As for Cyprus calling this a "bailout" is a misnomer I myself have been guilty of, for nobody is getting bailed out, and certainly not the Cypriot people.

This whole affair is a confidence game directed at the Cypriot people and the German people, the whole of the EU, and against the savers and creditors, everyone save the Eurocrats are being deceived.

In this bait and switch game, the price of the new credit line for Cyprus moves to the European Central Bank who must contain the bank run in Cyprus with its Emergency Liquidity Assistance, and this is likely to be a nice percent of the remaining ~60 billion Euros in deposits.

This will appear in the balance sheets of the Bundesbank and its associates through the European Central Banks "Target2" scheme. The money disbursed will flee Cyprus regardless of what measures are taken.

To save ~6 billion Euros in bail-out money, other eurozone countries will be responsible for four to five times the amount in liabilities, and after destroying the Cypriot economy, they will be certain to have to honor them. The former represents real money. the latter is central bank money which thus does not immediately appear, at least prior to Merkel's next election.

So the ordinary people of Cyprus pay immediately for the Brussels madness and all Europe pays later with interest.

The Cypriots should have left the EU, rather that accepted this madness.




DesideriScuri -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 8:03:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie
Never forget Yachtie, you have to posts links (and a link proves that it happened....not common sense or logic....or even, god forbid, actual study), otherwise it didn't happen (because no one else but a poster is actually capable of doing their own homework or follow through) and if you ever point something out, or use personal experience (as in having been there/done that) ever, you have to prove with 47 experts (and links again...don't forget the links), every possible point to people who (haven't been there/done that and so, it's not real to them, even though it may be fact indeed) don't know how to read, don't understand semantics or, can't grasp that your first point ended after the period and when they see a new capital letter, that may (or may not) be the beginning of the second or a new point.
Oh, one other thing, it must be written in a way that they understand....not necessarily what you meant or how you would have written had you been speaking to someone who has a grasp on the subject, even if what you wrote is clear to a 9 year old who has been living under a bush for his or her entire life with no access to any intellectual tools of any kind.
So, simply, if what you write is misinterpreted, those are the facts, not in fact, what you wrote.
See?


You have any links to back up your assertion that links are necessary? [:D]




Edwynn -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/1/2013 11:06:53 PM)

~FR~

So, the OP and a few others here are all in with the beheading (if posthumously, in some cases) of Reagan, and every suck-up president after, Phil Gramm, Leiberman, Barny Frank, Fuck-himself-in-the-ass-and-luvin'-it Rick Santorum, deal-makers Pelosi and Hillari, Rumsfeldt, who fired every good general available at the time, Cheney, Lloyd Blankfein, etc. ?

I was wondering when you boys were going to come around.


OH! frick me! I missed it.


That was just for "the little countries", wasn't it?

Please.

When Cyprus can even get to the level of Ireland in terms of making their citizens pay for decades to the BOND HOLDERS, much less stealing 4.5 million homes and 8 million jobs from their own citizens as in the US, then we'll talk about something half-serious.





Politesub53 -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/2/2013 11:53:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: YN

Don't worry, the thinking he espouses and which is represented by his champion David Cameron is doing as proper a job of destroying the UK as you could ask for.



Anyone who has read my views on Cameron will tell you I have no time for him. Dont let that stop you trolling though. As for the rest of your drivel, I gladly snipped it from my post for you.





YN -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/2/2013 12:10:02 PM)

Your views on Cameron (by your own words) are that he is not the iron reactionary that Thatcher was.




Politesub53 -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/2/2013 12:23:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: YN

Your views on Cameron (by your own words) are that he is not the iron reactionary that Thatcher was.


Well done, you can read....... Now show me where I have ever said I espouse his views.

You will find I have indeed praised Thatcher and have also been highly critical of her. Some of us have the ability to see things good and bad in both left and right. You are obviously unable to do so.




YN -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/2/2013 12:59:41 PM)

You are a Tory, and vote Tory after understanding the Tory platform but don't follow the Tory views?

If you expect any sympathy for your "buyers remorse" you will be disappointed.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/2/2013 1:10:55 PM)

We didn't vote for any of the 'main' 3 parties.

In our house, Cameron, Clegg and Miliband are known as "cockroach", "clump" and "millipede".

We voted UKIP [:D]




Yachtie -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/2/2013 1:17:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

We voted UKIP [:D]




What's your take on Daniel Hannan?




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: The Terror that is... (4/2/2013 1:21:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Yachtie
What's your take on Daniel Hannan?

Who????

I had to look him up coz I'd neva heard of him.




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