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FatDomDaddy -> Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 2:08:19 PM)

I am sure the lefties will find a way to support and white wash Putin and absolve him of any bigotry over this.



Putin orders ban on adoptions by foreign same-sex couples




AlittleCrazy098 -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 3:12:07 PM)

As much as I hate the man with a passion and think he is an enemy to America. At least the man stands for something and enforces LAWS unlike the numerous of leaders we have running this country. I bet Putin is one of the few people that will say "no" to the modern day robber barons unlike somebody that's in office.




DomKen -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 4:08:19 PM)

Personally every leftist I know despises Putin. Of course that clashes with the rights fanatsies about progressives so I'll be called a liar or some such nonsense.




tweakabelle -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 4:12:42 PM)

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I bet Putin is one of the few people that will say "no" to the modern day robber barons unlike somebody that's in office.


I'm not too sure about this - Putin is one of the modern day robber barons, with estimates of his personal fortune exceeding $50 billion, all of it dishonestly gained through corruption, cronyism and abuse of his office




thompsonx -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 4:17:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

I am sure the lefties will find a way to support and white wash Putin and absolve him of any bigotry over this.



Putin orders ban on adoptions by foreign same-sex couples

From your cite:

Critics said the government was using society’s most disadvantaged children as political pawns as the prohibition on adoption was introduced as a response to the US Magnitsky Act, which banned some Russian officials from travelling to America.




Owner59 -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 7:39:33 PM)

Not the 1st time the ruskies are being dicks, holding these kids hostage over this and that issue.....

http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/russia-threatens-ban-on-u-s-adoptions/


"A law that would prohibit adoptions of Russian children by United States citizens passed Russia’s lower house of Parliament on Wednesday. The bill (in retaliation for a new United States law that seeks to punish Russian citizens who are accused of violating human rights) still faces two more legislative votes, and President Vladimir V. Putin has evaded the question of whether or not he would sign it.

In adoption forums, prospective adoptive parents are already asking one another what this could mean and sharing the advice of their adoption agencies. Most hope this will blow over, but history suggests some reasons could unofficially slow or suspend adoptions in process while waiting for a final word.

The Russian adoption process involves three visits to the country: the first to meet a child, a second to visit the child and obtain a court date, and a third to bring the child back to the United States. (Some adoption agency sites describe only two trips.) The result is that a ban on United States adoptions (which has been threatened before, most recently in 2010, when adoptions were suspended after a 7-year-old boy was sent back to Russia on a plane by himself by his adoptive mother) threatens families that have already begun to form.

When adoptions were suspended in 2010, more than 250 American families were in the final process of adopting children — children they had already met and made commitments to. At that time, The Times reported that as many as 3,500 children were at some point in the process with some 3,000 families. It’s reasonable to assume that the numbers are somewhat smaller now, as United States adoptions from Russia slowed but didn’t stop, while the two countries worked to ratify a bilateral adoption treaty, which became effective on Nov. 1, 2012. But even if this is only political posturing, every one of the families waiting to secure ties must feel jeopardized.



This time, Russia’s foreign minister has opposed the proposed ban, as has its education and science minister, who pointed out (via Twitter) that such a ban would harm Russian children who cannot find homes in their own country. This year, NPR reported that more than 100,000 Russian children live in dormitory-like orphanages. Many news-media sources, from Al Jazeera to ABC, report that there are 740,000 children living outside of parental custody in Russia, citing Unicef as a source."




Owner59 -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 7:44:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Personally every leftist I know despises Putin. Of course that clashes with the rights fanatsies about progressives so I'll be called a liar or some such nonsense.


Did you get your Obama gift-basket yet?

Just got mine,the free phone kicks ass and the food stamp cozy will help me keep mine organized.....

Those rightists are just jealous.....[:D]




njlauren -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 7:58:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AlittleCrazy098

As much as I hate the man with a passion and think he is an enemy to America. At least the man stands for something and enforces LAWS unlike the numerous of leaders we have running this country. I bet Putin is one of the few people that will say "no" to the modern day robber barons unlike somebody that's in office.

You are joking, aren't you? Have you read anything about Russia these days? It is a thugocracy, corruption is rampant, and Putin's hands are in the till like most of the political leaders. Business leaders are often thrown in jail, ironically on 'corruption' charges, and the company then mysteriously is taken over by another company, that just happens to be owned by friends of Putin. Rule of Law? Russia is basically run by crime syndicates and dirty companies.




njlauren -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 8:03:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

I am sure the lefties will find a way to support and white wash Putin and absolve him of any bigotry over this.



Putin orders ban on adoptions by foreign same-sex couples

Why would lefties support Putin? Oh, right, I see, Russia=USSR=Red menace, got you..umm, the USSR fell in the late 80's, and today is a thoroughly capitalist society; corrupt as hell, kind of like the F'rengai Empire but not as much fun. Russia is an Oligarchy, controlled by crime syndicates, corrupt politicians, and business Cartels, in terms of human rights it is a cesspool, and thanks to the ascendency of the Russian Orthodox Church , which is all tied up with Putin and his government, and which makes the Catholic Church look like the UCC, it is about as violent and backwards a country you could want. I would think the right wing would love Russia, though, they are anti gay, anti semitic, think church and state are a perfect match, throw people who disagree with them into work camps, and whose social and business model ironically is a perfect fit for Ayn Rand, the current economic darling of the GOP.....in other words, it is the ideal fascist state 'righties' dream about.




muhly22222 -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 8:04:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: njlauren


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ORIGINAL: AlittleCrazy098

As much as I hate the man with a passion and think he is an enemy to America. At least the man stands for something and enforces LAWS unlike the numerous of leaders we have running this country. I bet Putin is one of the few people that will say "no" to the modern day robber barons unlike somebody that's in office.

You are joking, aren't you? Have you read anything about Russia these days? It is a thugocracy, corruption is rampant, and Putin's hands are in the till like most of the political leaders. Business leaders are often thrown in jail, ironically on 'corruption' charges, and the company then mysteriously is taken over by another company, that just happens to be owned by friends of Putin. Rule of Law? Russia is basically run by crime syndicates and dirty companies.


A-FUCKING-MEN!

There is nothing to praise about Putin. Well...except for his Stalin-like ability to take and hold power (although it's not quite as bad as that...yet). I suppose that deserves a certain amount of respect.

Putin doesn't enforce laws unless those laws help him in any given instance. He doesn't stand for anything except himself.




njlauren -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 8:09:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: muhly22222


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ORIGINAL: njlauren


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ORIGINAL: AlittleCrazy098

As much as I hate the man with a passion and think he is an enemy to America. At least the man stands for something and enforces LAWS unlike the numerous of leaders we have running this country. I bet Putin is one of the few people that will say "no" to the modern day robber barons unlike somebody that's in office.

You are joking, aren't you? Have you read anything about Russia these days? It is a thugocracy, corruption is rampant, and Putin's hands are in the till like most of the political leaders. Business leaders are often thrown in jail, ironically on 'corruption' charges, and the company then mysteriously is taken over by another company, that just happens to be owned by friends of Putin. Rule of Law? Russia is basically run by crime syndicates and dirty companies.


A-FUCKING-MEN!

There is nothing to praise about Putin. Well...except for his Stalin-like ability to take and hold power (although it's not quite as bad as that...yet). I suppose that deserves a certain amount of respect.

Putin doesn't enforce laws unless those laws help him in any given instance. He doesn't stand for anything except himself.

The only differences between him and Stalin is that Putin is into Capitalism, whereas Stalin was into communism, and Putin is a big fan of the Russian Orthodox Church (who wholeheartedly support his dictatorship), while Stalin's religion was communism...after that, same old same old.




cloudboy -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 8:11:34 PM)


Putin is an amoral criminal. Russians like him b/c he's a nationalist.




Powergamz1 -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 8:36:41 PM)

You mean 'no' to his competition?


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ORIGINAL: AlittleCrazy098

As much as I hate the man with a passion and think he is an enemy to America. At least the man stands for something and enforces LAWS unlike the numerous of leaders we have running this country. I bet Putin is one of the few people that will say "no" to the modern day robber barons unlike somebody that's in office.





muhly22222 -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/30/2013 10:07:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: njlauren


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ORIGINAL: muhly22222


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ORIGINAL: njlauren


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ORIGINAL: AlittleCrazy098

As much as I hate the man with a passion and think he is an enemy to America. At least the man stands for something and enforces LAWS unlike the numerous of leaders we have running this country. I bet Putin is one of the few people that will say "no" to the modern day robber barons unlike somebody that's in office.

You are joking, aren't you? Have you read anything about Russia these days? It is a thugocracy, corruption is rampant, and Putin's hands are in the till like most of the political leaders. Business leaders are often thrown in jail, ironically on 'corruption' charges, and the company then mysteriously is taken over by another company, that just happens to be owned by friends of Putin. Rule of Law? Russia is basically run by crime syndicates and dirty companies.


A-FUCKING-MEN!

There is nothing to praise about Putin. Well...except for his Stalin-like ability to take and hold power (although it's not quite as bad as that...yet). I suppose that deserves a certain amount of respect.

Putin doesn't enforce laws unless those laws help him in any given instance. He doesn't stand for anything except himself.

The only differences between him and Stalin is that Putin is into Capitalism, whereas Stalin was into communism, and Putin is a big fan of the Russian Orthodox Church (who wholeheartedly support his dictatorship), while Stalin's religion was communism...after that, same old same old.


One of my political science professors back in college said that the spectrum was a circle...Stalin may have been communist, Putin may be "capitalist" (in quotes because I don't think that he really believes in the basic ideas of capitalism...call it cronyism), but are either of them really that different from the other? It's just a different vehicle for power and tyranny, with the same end result.

I'm not disagreeing with what you said at all, if I read your post correctly.




thezeppo -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/31/2013 12:29:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

I am sure the lefties will find a way to support and white wash Putin and absolve him of any bigotry over this.



Putin orders ban on adoptions by foreign same-sex couples


The left haven't been beholden to Russia since 1956 - look up the New Left, Kruschev's Secret Speech, the Suez Crisis, the counter-revolution in Hungary.




thezeppo -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/31/2013 12:35:31 AM)


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ORIGINAL: muhly22222


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ORIGINAL: njlauren


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ORIGINAL: muhly22222


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ORIGINAL: njlauren


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ORIGINAL: AlittleCrazy098

As much as I hate the man with a passion and think he is an enemy to America. At least the man stands for something and enforces LAWS unlike the numerous of leaders we have running this country. I bet Putin is one of the few people that will say "no" to the modern day robber barons unlike somebody that's in office.

You are joking, aren't you? Have you read anything about Russia these days? It is a thugocracy, corruption is rampant, and Putin's hands are in the till like most of the political leaders. Business leaders are often thrown in jail, ironically on 'corruption' charges, and the company then mysteriously is taken over by another company, that just happens to be owned by friends of Putin. Rule of Law? Russia is basically run by crime syndicates and dirty companies.


A-FUCKING-MEN!

There is nothing to praise about Putin. Well...except for his Stalin-like ability to take and hold power (although it's not quite as bad as that...yet). I suppose that deserves a certain amount of respect.

Putin doesn't enforce laws unless those laws help him in any given instance. He doesn't stand for anything except himself.

The only differences between him and Stalin is that Putin is into Capitalism, whereas Stalin was into communism, and Putin is a big fan of the Russian Orthodox Church (who wholeheartedly support his dictatorship), while Stalin's religion was communism...after that, same old same old.


One of my political science professors back in college said that the spectrum was a circle...Stalin may have been communist, Putin may be "capitalist" (in quotes because I don't think that he really believes in the basic ideas of capitalism...call it cronyism), but are either of them really that different from the other? It's just a different vehicle for power and tyranny, with the same end result.

I'm not disagreeing with what you said at all, if I read your post correctly.


I don't think you can say the same result. Millions of people lost their lives under Stalin's dictatorship. That should count for something.




epiphiny43 -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/31/2013 12:43:57 AM)

Putin is just getting started! And Stalin didn't have to deal with modern instant communication, cell phone and dash board cams everywhere, the net and social web sites that bypass his rather complete control of the conventional media. If he could hide his activities better, he'd be filling just as many Gulags as Stalin and wiping out whole populations of dissident peoples. Putin has to pay lip service to legality and democratic elections. So far.




AbsoluteOverlord -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/31/2013 1:09:59 AM)

Yay Putin! Go Putin!

Leviticus 20:13 "'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Romans 1:27 "In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."



One Nation Under God?????????




Politesub53 -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/31/2013 4:33:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

I am sure the lefties will find a way to support and white wash Putin and absolve him of any bigotry over this.



Putin orders ban on adoptions by foreign same-sex couples


lmfao......Your political knowledge is astounding. I am glad you spotted this for everyone.




Politesub53 -> RE: Putin to Gays; Get Your Kids Elsewhere (3/31/2013 4:43:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AbsoluteOverlord

Yay Putin! Go Putin!

Leviticus 20:13 "'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Romans 1:27 "In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."



One Nation Under God?????????



No homophobia here then. [8|]




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