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Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/4/2013 9:59:52 PM

TheHeretic

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Here's an interesting report from Pew, about shifting attitudes towards marijuana, use of the drug, and bipartisan attitudes about federal enforcement.

48% say they have used marjuana at some point (1% don't know, so they must have been really baked).

12% say they have used it in the last year.

47% of the users say they do it just for fun

http://www.people-press.org/2013/04/04/majority-now-supports-legalizing-marijuana/

And it seems that potheads are everywhere.

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Opinions about legalizing marijuana vary little among states that have more permissive marijuana laws and those that do not. A majority (55%) of those in states that have legalized medical marijuana or have decriminalized (or legalized) marijuana for personal use favor legalizing marijuana. Yet 50% of those in states in which marijuana is not decriminalized (or legal for any purpose) also favor its legalization.

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/4/2013 10:03:42 PM

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I haven't done the stuff in ages but seriously folks. If someone wants to light up in their own home, I'm all for it.
As for medical. Why the fuck do politicians say they know more about theraputic uses of drugs than fucking doctors?
What are there like 2 MD's in congress?

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/4/2013 10:14:10 PM

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Try 20. 17 in the House, 3 in the Senate.

http://www.patientsactionnetwork.com/physicians-of-the-113th-congress/

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/4/2013 10:34:41 PM

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Don't worry Rich, they will pass legislation for you to smoke doobies in your area, eventually.

You are close enough to SanFrancisco, and you can get a doctors prescription for medical marijuana quite easily there.

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/4/2013 11:23:55 PM

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Legalization of marijuana on a federal level in the USA is not possible. Legalization would impact many IC & USG operations in Mexico, abroad and limit their power (authority). It is cure when articles like this come up. People think politicians do what people want them to. Makes me giggle like a princess.

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/5/2013 12:56:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: Marini

Don't worry Rich, they will pass legislation for you to smoke doobies in your area, eventually.

You are close enough to SanFrancisco, and you can get a doctors prescription for medical marijuana quite easily there.

Mari, I live in a small desert town, and we have 3 or 4 dispensaries, with more flavors than Baskin and Robbins.

I'm just sharing the poll.

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/5/2013 1:13:24 AM

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From what I have seen as a policeman, and as a judicial investigator, marijuana is less trouble to both society and the users that either tobacco or especially alcohol. The only reason it is even mildly illegal here is due to pressure from the UN and the US/EU axis.

If marijuana were legalized the crime rate would certainly be lower and so would the social expenses in my opinion.

Very few marijuana users cause troubles while drunken fools fill the police post's holding cells, normally as the result of some idiocy that they would not have considered while sober. And tobacco certainly kills large numbers each year.

It is not quite as harmless as coffee however. Let those who like it grow it like they do flowers and spices in their gardens, and spend your police efforts on real criminality.

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/5/2013 1:40:38 AM

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Marijuana use is one of those things that makes criminals out of people who never cause harm to anyone or who would never be a risk to society. It's medical uses are becoming more and more apparent. Works a treat for generalised anxiety, not so much for very specific anxiety though. A lot of the things that are said against it i.e. it's a gateway drug, it funds other criminal activity, only apply as long as its illegal. I'm not going to say it's harmless, a friend of a friend hasn't always had the healthiest relationship with drugs and one or two of his friends have become unproductive to the point of never leaving the house. I don't see how that's worse than alcohol though - and at least you aren't likely to be assaulted by a stoner.

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/5/2013 1:47:41 AM

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I'm all for ALL drugs being legalized. It's not any of my business what you put into your body.

Besides, I figure that a bunch of dopers will just kill themselves pushing the shit into their veins (and wherever) and solve a few of our problems.

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/5/2013 1:52:02 AM

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Marijuana use is one of those things that makes criminals out of people who never cause harm to anyone or who would never be a risk to society. It's medical uses are becoming more and more apparent. Works a treat for generalised anxiety, not so much for very specific anxiety though. A lot of the things that are said against it i.e. it's a gateway drug, it funds other criminal activity, only apply as long as its illegal. I'm not going to say it's harmless, a friend of a friend hasn't always had the healthiest relationship with drugs and one or two of his friends have become unproductive to the point of never leaving the house. I don't see how that's worse than alcohol though - and at least you aren't likely to be assaulted by a stoner.

Alcohol is the real gateway drug, it is rare in my opinion that anyone who has never drank liquor uses drugs.

Claiming it is totally harmless is in my opinion, as bad as claiming it isn't.

Recall the Arab assassins used it prior to their raids and assassinations.

However the carnage on most any nation's roads due to drunken drivers makes firearms seem as children's toys, never mind what else the drunks accompish.

The question is if the cost of prohibiting the drug is worth the trouble it prevents. In the case of marijuana it is hard to make any case. The Romans simply taxed it, and history records they had little troubles as a result.

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/5/2013 3:44:34 AM

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Absolutely, if I had to choose to know either someone who smoked 5 spliffs a day or someone who drank every day it wouldn't even be in question which I would go far - and that's doubly true for getting in the car with a stoned as opposed to a drunk person. I would imagine that legalising and taxing marijuana would be a very nice earner for government, and I genuinely don't see any drawbacks to doing so. I don't think the fact of it being illegal is stopping anyone who wants to smoke it at the moment.

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/5/2013 5:42:12 AM

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Make weed legal. Let insurance companies not provide policies to weed users. Tax sellers and make it a tax violation for street dealers (hit them with huge fines and throw them in jail for "contempt" of not paying the fines and let them work it off in work release). The only way to get the tax stamp is to have a store front and license for sale of it. The only exception would be people who grew it in their own home. Now you would allow people to freely give it to their friends and family but private sale would be unlawful without a tax stamp. People could qualify for tax stamps to sell from their home if their zoning allowed for it. Done.

Now the drawbacks. If someone is driving and are suspected of driving while under the influence they'd have to submit to a urine provision either in the field or at a police station (not negotiable, piss in the field or got to jail), or a blood sample. If the medical examiner can determine that someone had been using weed within two hours of driving then it's a DUI charge. We ought to legalize cocaine and heroine while we're at it and instead spending money on enforcement, focus it on treatment and recovery. At the same though if we legalize cocaine and heroine we should allow medicaid and medicare to use the use of the substances as a disqualifier for coverage and care along with private insurers. If you develop heart problems because of your cocaine use, no insurance company private or public would have to cover you for your treatment. Oh and make it a disqaulifier for SSDI as well.

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/5/2013 5:48:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
As for medical. Why the fuck do politicians say they know more about theraputic uses of drugs than fucking doctors?
What are there like 2 MD's in congress?

its cuz Big Pharma has those sleazy politicians wrapped around their fingers and want the mindless public sheeple to buy their synthetic pot/thc instead of going natural and growing their own.. its about the money, dude.. its always about the money..

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/5/2013 10:03:45 AM

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give it the next decade. It may not be totally legal, but just moving it down from a schedule 1 drug would be a huge step forward. That would also permit the states to make their own laws and not be hasseled by the government all the time.

I can't wait to start growing here in CO

. Even if it is just for fun! {considering I gave up smoking it}

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/6/2013 6:51:57 AM

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An interesting poll for Florida,70% of Floridians support Medical Marijuana.This may be the first time this becomes a reality here in Florida.There is a ballot question being signed by the citizens to put this amendment for election by the Floridas Governors race for 2014.For the first time ever,there are well respected,well funded,high profile people backing this amendment.They have the money to make this a reality.

No doubt,since Washington and Colorado legalized marijuana,the debate here in Florida about medical marijuana is finally being considered a real option.Medical marijuana is the best Florida can hope for now.I certainly don't see 100% full legal weed here in Florida but Medical Marijuana is a start.

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/6/2013 7:10:22 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Here's an interesting report from Pew, about shifting attitudes towards marijuana, use of the drug, and bipartisan attitudes about federal enforcement.

48% say they have used marjuana at some point (1% don't know, so they must have been really baked).

12% say they have used it in the last year.

47% of the users say they do it just for fun

http://www.people-press.org/2013/04/04/majority-now-supports-legalizing-marijuana/

And it seems that potheads are everywhere.

quote:

Opinions about legalizing marijuana vary little among states that have more permissive marijuana laws and those that do not. A majority (55%) of those in states that have legalized medical marijuana or have decriminalized (or legalized) marijuana for personal use favor legalizing marijuana. Yet 50% of those in states in which marijuana is not decriminalized (or legal for any purpose) also favor its legalization.

like most laws what gave them the authority to declare it illegal in the first place? Some asshole fiat legislature that never took a vote from the inhabitants that are forced to live under this shit?

How about the right to purchase any drug you want from a pharmacy?

What gave them the authority to infringe on anyones ability to buy them?

NOTHING!

Non existant.

In fact it infringes on our right to self medicate as usual under the umbrela of the regulation "the police state"

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/6/2013 7:12:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: Charles6682

An interesting poll for Florida,70% of Floridians support Medical Marijuana.This may be the first time this becomes a reality here in Florida.There is a ballot question being signed by the citizens to put this amendment for election by the Floridas Governors race for 2014.For the first time ever,there are well respected,well funded,high profile people backing this amendment.They have the money to make this a reality.

No doubt,since Washington and Colorado legalized marijuana,the debate here in Florida about medical marijuana is finally being considered a real option.Medical marijuana is the best Florida can hope for now.I certainly don't see 100% full legal weed here in Florida but Medical Marijuana is a start.

sux when you have to have legislation to get the state to leave you alone and keep their noses out of your private life for actions that harm no one, not even yourself.

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RE: Pew: US majority supports marijuana legalization - 4/6/2013 10:44:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: Charles6682

An interesting poll for Florida,70% of Floridians support Medical Marijuana.This may be the first time this becomes a reality here in Florida.There is a ballot question being signed by the citizens to put this amendment for election by the Floridas Governors race for 2014.For the first time ever,there are well respected,well funded,high profile people backing this amendment.They have the money to make this a reality.

No doubt,since Washington and Colorado legalized marijuana,the debate here in Florida about medical marijuana is finally being considered a real option.Medical marijuana is the best Florida can hope for now.I certainly don't see 100% full legal weed here in Florida but Medical Marijuana is a start.

Keep your chin up. We started with med weed too. It is the natural progression. You have to establish a controlled legal basis first. However, as long as the feds keep it schedule 1 they can fuck with you. A lot of growers and dispensaries in CO an CA have been getting fucked with by Obama and Holder. We have even been warned by the feds that they may take action here. I think if it is grown and sold here, they don't have jurisdiction, but they will pull out the federal law books and start pissing on the 10th amendment again.

I am thinking we should push for as many Coloradans as possible to grow at least one plant. The gov can't arrest 1mil+ criminals. That may force them to rethink things. The big advantage CO has had is it is a swing state. To the federal politicians are scared to piss us off too much. You should have the same luck in FL considering you are a bigger swing state, and full of voting geezers who might want to toke up.

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