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searching4mysir -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 11:15:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Agent99

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha
Anyone can name and shame whoever they wish. According to that site I am fake.


With all due respects, you totally missed the entire endeavor because of a pre-conceived notion that you have.
It's as if you owned ONE German car, and then you say all German cars are that way.
Clearly you did NOT click on the link I provided as you are most certainly NOT listed in that area of the web site which is NOT SUBJECTIVE!



You seem to have missed HER point: That ANYONE can name and shame on that site for any reason. The site is no more reliable for differentiating "fakes" than any other. It wasn't about whether or not her name showed up on that list in particular. It was about it being a bunch of people with an axe to grind because they can't get laid.



Ptesticlees -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 12:11:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Agent99
It's all about pictorial proof that the profile photos are commonly found on the web


Look Bud, I'm gonna give you some advice.
Most people are stupid and that's what you're running up against.
You will fail to prove your point to them because they're stupid for a reason.
They are not going to be bothered with facts any more than they're going to be bothered with proof.

They have their ideas, and they're set in stone and nothing you can say will change that.

The sooner you realize that, the sooner we can move on to kink questions and not fake profile picture questions.



UllrsIshtar -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 12:15:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders
(What do you call a male bunny?)


A buck.


What is the latin (medical term) for buck teeth, smartass?


Malocclusion.



Enobario -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 12:20:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir
You seem to have missed HER point: That ANYONE can name and shame on that site for any reason.


I don't think the op missed her point at all since he already noted the VAA profile on the part of the site which you complain about and someone else already said that part was subjective.

The objective part of that forum site, which was unknown to me prior to this post, seems to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the every single profile listed has provably fake photos. They even seem to upload the actual photos and the actual google search results.

What more proof would you want?

I doubt they're faking all those pictures that are posted and the google search results.

Or are you actually saying they also faked the google search results that seem to be posted inside of every single post in that Tineye forum?



tazzygirl -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 12:20:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Ptesticlees


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ORIGINAL: Agent99
It's all about pictorial proof that the profile photos are commonly found on the web


Look Bud, I'm gonna give you some advice.
Most people are stupid and that's what you're running up against.
You will fail to prove your point to them because they're stupid for a reason.
They are not going to be bothered with facts any more than they're going to be bothered with proof.

They have their ideas, and they're set in stone and nothing you can say will change that.

The sooner you realize that, the sooner we can move on to kink questions and not fake profile picture questions.


And what you are missing is that just because a photo is found on other web sites doesnt make it a fake photo. Or did that little fact escape your knowledge base?



tazzygirl -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 12:26:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Enobario


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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir
You seem to have missed HER point: That ANYONE can name and shame on that site for any reason.


I don't think the op missed her point at all since he already noted the VAA profile on the part of the site which you complain about and someone else already said that part was subjective.

The objective part of that forum site, which was unknown to me prior to this post, seems to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the every single profile listed has provably fake photos. They even seem to upload the actual photos and the actual google search results.

What more proof would you want?

I doubt they're faking all those pictures that are posted and the google search results.

Or are you actually saying they also faked the google search results that seem to be posted inside of every single post in that Tineye forum?



I found one quickly that wasnt a fake. DarkSteven stated he knew a girl for over a year who was listed on that site. There is two examples alone.

I use google search. It reveals far more than tineye. I have also gotten pretty good and recognizing legitimate sites for posting photo's taken of models or by photographers as opposed to porn sites or tumblr. Even tumblr accounts will scour such legitimate sites as Deviant Art, which posts many many legitimate photos, many of those models and photographers also post here.

Just because a google search reveals multiple sites doesnt mean the person who displays the photo HERE is a fake. It could be that someone elsewhere stole THEIR photo from a collarme account or another legitimate site.

Or didnt you fellas think about that?



Polyneices -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 12:33:35 PM)

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For what it's worth, I didn't click the link. I've seen the site before and I mostly just laughed at it.


I didn't know about the web site until this thread so I can now see why everyone who has not been there in a while has the wrong idea.

There seem to be multiple components to that web site, one of which is ridiculously arbitrary while the other side appears to be focused on strenuous proof.

The side almost everyone but the OP is talking about is the arbitrary part so they're all talking out of their asses if they haven't actually clicked on the original link.

When I clicked on the original link, and read about 30 or 40 posts, I saw exactly what the OP is talking about. All these profiles that are listed are obviously fake. Some you can't tell by the picture alone but when you realize the picture of the girl in the bathing suit is also the same picture as the cover of a porn DVD, then you realize it's fake.

Likewise with the innocuous picture of the 48 year old matron who just happens to have a dozen porno spreads on the net, where the profile photo is the least pornographic but clearly the profile photo is not who they say they are.

The chances that these are "her" porno spreads, and that this is happening all the time, dozens of times in any city, is just ridiculous - so the person who posted that as the reason really needs to buy a book on how to get smart quick.

My advice to the OP?
Anyone who hasn't actually looked at the link in the first post is talking out of their ass and should just be ignored since they don't know what they're even talking about.

I do see that one person, ROCK, and another MADMAN, seem to have most of the posts, so we really should ask THEM why they're posting all the fake profiles. They're the only ones who really know the answer. Not anyone here.



Polyneices -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 12:41:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
And what you are missing is that just because a photo is found on other web sites doesnt make it a fake photo. Or did that little fact escape your knowledge base?


Are you really arguing that porn actors galore are signing up on Collarme?

I had never been at that forum before but I did click on tens of the links.

Unless there is some conspiracy going around, I'd pretty much have to say the photos taken off the covers of porn DVDs are not just a "little fact". I saw photos which were photoshopped from the cover of porn magazines, and very many of the photos are in dozens of porno spreads owned by kink.com, mood pictures, penthouse, playboy, and others.

I seriously doubt any of these are actually the porn actor opening their own personal profile on collarme which is what you're stating is the unknown "little fact".



tazzygirl -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 12:51:45 PM)

Two examples. I took a photo of myself I have posted on fetlife. Ran it through all the OP's search engines... nada... no where on line. Yet I know it is. Someone can steal a bunch of photo's from fet or other such sites and no one would know they are stolen. And you all would believe they are "real".

Second example. I did a search the other day on some photos that looked very professional. I believe that anyone who would steal copyrighted work and then claim to be honorable is a joke. So, I started looking. The first time I searched, tumblr, pininterest, blogger sites came up.. photo sharing... 19 pages.

According to you and others, that makes that person a fake. Except some of the sites I know to have only authentic photos started popping up as I flipped through the pages. The model was real, the collarme profile was real, the photographer was real... and yet you would have labeled them fakes simply because someone else stole their work.

Are there fakes on here? Yep. But dont talk about google searches being the last definitive word of what defines a fake.



tazzygirl -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 1:19:35 PM)

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He must know a helova lot of porno stars and bondage models!


I know quite a few. Why wouldnt he?



HarryVanWinkle -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 1:30:55 PM)

The first thing I noticed about that site is that just about all of the "outings" were made by the same person. My guess is that the person who made them lives in San Jose and thus is far more interested in "fake" profiles listing SJ than in others.



DarkSteven -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 1:48:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Ptesticlees


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ORIGINAL: Agent99
It's all about pictorial proof that the profile photos are commonly found on the web


Look Bud, I'm gonna give you some advice.
Most people are stupid and that's what you're running up against.
You will fail to prove your point to them because they're stupid for a reason.
They are not going to be bothered with facts any more than they're going to be bothered with proof.

They have their ideas, and they're set in stone and nothing you can say will change that.

The sooner you realize that, the sooner we can move on to kink questions and not fake profile picture questions.

If you can't handle logic, call everyone else stupid?

Before you call us stupid, please post the facts and proof to which you refer. And keep in mind that either convincing us that VAA is fake, or that the collarmefakes website did not call her out as a fake will strengthen your argument considerably. 'Cause that's kinda like a fact that we stupid people will use to disprove you otherwise. Because, you know, that's the kind of fact that we ignore, right?



tazzygirl -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 2:33:42 PM)

Anyone else notice a few of these fellas joined around the same time? Just sayin....



UllrsIshtar -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 4:51:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Polyneices

Are you really arguing that porn actors galore are signing up on Collarme?




Maybe not galore, but I know of several kink.com models, both male and female, that are a member of this site.

Hell, on of them was a girl who used to post on the forums, met her Master on here, and then they both moved to California where she started a career as a porn star under his guidance, after she had done a series of very successful vids for various sites, he got in the business to and there are several vids with them together, or either of them alone.

Both of them have kink.com pics posted on their profile of vids they where in, and both of their pictures with get thousands of hits when checked with google.

I'm not saying that porn starts are in the majority when it comes to profile with pictures posted off porn sites, but you seem to think that's it's impossible that such a thing would happen, when it happens pretty regularly. Most of the performers in BDSM porn ARE kinky after all, so when they're looking for a BDSM dating site, they're as likely to end up here as you and I are.



LadyPact -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 7:48:53 PM)

Somewhat of a fast reply........

For those complaining that some of the long term posters didn't click the link, it's because we've seen the site before. This isn't the first thread that ever mentioned it. When it first came out, some of us found it funny as hell. Heck, I even went and looked to see if I was on it. By the way, I did so because I lived in a town called Paso Robles, CA at the time, which is about three hours away from San Jose. I've been called fake plenty of times because I don't meet with every horny <cough> man <cough> that crosses My path.

Now, I don't know if I can be found on a reverse pic search. I do know that I have that same shot on My Fet profile. I know I can be found on google with a different pic that I used last year as a presenter.

I do know that the other site is crap and it was basically started because a butthurt poster was ticked off that they couldn't blacklist people here.



UllrsIshtar -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 10:04:18 PM)

I just did an image search on some of the pictures I used to have on my profile. Most all of them show up "stolen". My main pic a couple dozen times.

If I were to repost those pictures, and somebody would use them to verify whether my profile is real or not, I'd come up as "fake".

I guess I should be upset... instead I'm just rather flattered.



bayareacouple -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/6/2013 10:07:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
I know of several kink.com models, both male and female, that are a member of this site.


Seems to be a LOT of porn stars from San Jose on collarme lately. :)

Without mentioning any specific profiles by name, I find it funny that porn actress Destiny Deville is one of the profile photos in San Jose:
http://www.xvideos.com/?k=Destiny+Deville&p=0&sort=uploaddate
[img]http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/12625650/640/12625650.gif[/img]

Also, this is the original to which a San Jose profile photo turned out to come from:
http://www.eic-book.com/detail_9086.html

In that San Jose Collarme profile the second girl is cleverly photoshopped out, so you only see the girl in the light blue bikini innocently kneeling on the beach.
[img]http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12625583/640/12625583.png[/img]

Here's another clever photoshopping where the movie stills were photoshopped to remove the guy standing so that the San Jose collarme profile photo just has the naked girl kneeling on the table.
[img]http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12625593/640/12625593.png[/img]

If your supposition is correct, then there seems to be a LOT of porn stars from San Jose on Collarme lately. :)

ETA: Removed any reference to the actual profiles as per CM TOS.



UllrsIshtar -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/7/2013 12:10:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bayareacouple

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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
I know of several kink.com models, both male and female, that are a member of this site.


If your supposition is correct, then there seems to be a LOT of porn stars from San Jose on Collarme lately. :)

ETA: Removed any reference to the actual profiles as per CM TOS.



I wasn't talking about a supposition, I was talking of actually people who I know for a fact ARE kink.com models and who have a profile here.

I'm not saying that there aren't any profiles who steal pictures from porn stars to pretend it's them. But I know of at least 5 kink.com models where the actual model in question maintains a CollarMe account for themselves. Some of them used to post on the boards here, and one of them -the couple- I mentioned before, MET on CollarMe.

I'm not guessing about that... I know that for a fact.

Seriously dude... most of the big star bondage models ARE kinky themselves. They're kink in their private life, it's not just a role they play on camera.
Do you think kinky porn stars don't date? Do you think kinky porn stars doesn't enjoy online dating sites, or hanging out with kinksters online? And if they do those things... where do you think they're most likely to show up?

Obviously not all profiles with porn pictures are of the actual porn star... but at least some of them are.



UllrsIshtar -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/7/2013 2:48:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

And yet you have no compulsion using someone else's artwork?


Great point tazzy.

Akrotiri, I looked through the list on the forum and quite easily found a whole bunch of profiles that give NO indication whatsoever of being fake.
Most often it was posted that the profile picture of that person was "all over the web" leading to the conclusion that the profile must be fake.

When I then checked the links supposedly providing the "proof" that the model's pictures where "all over the web" it would show that the picture was found on maybe 5-10 other sites, often with some of those hits being dating sites with a profile UNDER THE SAME NAME as the CollarMe profile.

Tell me, how exactly does that proof that the profile is fake?

This is a link to an image search of one of the pictures that used to be on my profile. According to how the fakes forum rates pictures, MY picture is all over the web. In fact, it's all over the web BECAUSE I posted it on CollarMe, and apparently a bunch of people liked it, so it got stolen.

So according to the collarmefakes forum, I'm a fake, because I made a CollarMe profile, posted a picture, and other people stole and reposted that picture... yeah... that seems to be a GREAT metric for weeding out the fakes.

BTW, considering that you yourself are obviously fake because you have stole IP as your profile pictures, I'll add you to confirmed fakes list on the forum. Question of being fair ya know...



RedMagic1 -> RE: Why would more kinky CM profiles be of the wrong photos in San Jose than elsewhere? (4/7/2013 4:20:28 AM)

This is the image version of the old saw, "There are no girls on the internet." The saying more or less means, "All the women on the internet are attention-seeking men, and all the underage girls on the internet are federal agents." There's some truth to that, of course, but it's never been 100% correct, because some of the first computer programmers were women. So real "girls" have always been around.

Update this to the present day, and you get, "If she's got a hot pic that appears on more than one site, she's really a he." This does happen a lot, of course, and I've hidden plenty of profiles that fit that saying. But, again, it isn't 100% correct. The CMFakes site trawls with a wide net, and catches real people along with phony profiles. I understand that the "anti-fakers" are frustrated, and making mistakes because they're going over the top. Fine. What baffles me, though, is why anyone else would take that site seriously, when it's so obviously such a mess.



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