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dom50m4subf -> how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 2:03:12 AM)

Hi

I was in CM for a brief period earlier and left not using it as the responses were mostly fakes.

I am from india and getting real sub ( god knows world thinks indian women are submissive!) Is hard; i thought of using "relocatable" button to identify potential sub willing to relocate to india; i contacted few (hmm some) profiles; by chatting i find the following common:

20-28 age, both parents conveniently dead, the master died of cancer or car accident , living with uncle or aunt; readyto relocate if i send ~1000 usd to settle some bills and for ticket. Or a master ready to relocate his/her current sub;

Most ( why most, almost all) are from internet; when i send the foto links asking for explanation (! They would explain?) They all vanish ( for eg hopingTara, jullings, etc) and i have about 24 listed outas fakes.
Only one was genuine, who said, she is interested but cannot move to india)

Three things CM can do:

Allow other viewer's opinion on the profile, allow IP of the user to be seen, give a profile rating

What are ur opinion?

dom50m4subf ( http://www.collarme.com/personals/q/dom50/o/1/v/1773026/default.htm)



DarkSteven -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 3:02:31 AM)

1. First off, welcome to the site!
2. With that out of the way, you consider the current situation intolerable and ask what must be done about it. The answer is - nothing. Feel free to search the forums for the word "fake" and look at literally hundreds of threads about it.
3. I apologize for knowing nothing about what's acceptable for dating in India. But here in the US, it's not difficult to get dates with vanilla (nonkinky) women. On the first or second date, I'd give one a kiss and give her rump a firm but not hard swat. That would be the moment of truth - was she sub or at least open to exploring? Again, I don't know if that's possible in India.
4. Where do you live? Your profile says you live in Mumbai/Chennai. They're 800 miles apart. That could be throwing off your search. In the US, proximity to others is calculated by zip code but I don't know how it's done for India.
5. I don't know if this makes a difference, but what you seek is a sugar daddy kind of relationship in which she's financially dependent on you. In the US, most collarme women would not be looking for that. Maybe another site?
6. Would there be a dating site where you could look for widows? I would expect a lot of Indian widows might be very interested in what you have to offer.

Again, welcome to the site!



littlewonder -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 7:33:20 AM)

I would think finding a femslave in India would be extremely, extremely easy.

I'm going to guess what you're actually seeking is kinky sex. If that's what you are seeking, then you most likely won't find it in India. I have a feeling you will have to look to more Western culture places or look in other areas of India where the women are more independent.

As for suggestions on how to "fix" CM, it won't do you any good. You'll still have the exact same problems no matter what.



lizi -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 7:43:27 AM)

Sorry, your suggestions to better the site would allow potential abuse. Allowing profile reviews and ratings would allow blacklisting to be done, and allowing an IP to be viewed is a huge violation of privacy.

The best way to use this free site is to use it as a supplement to real life endeavors, follow the suggestions given by the site not to send anyone money, and to use it by filtering out those profiles that wouldn't work for you. Taking away the profiles that you are calling fake wouldn't make any more women suddenly appear in your area that would match your criteria- if she's not here, then you'll have to go find her.



TieMeInKnottss -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 11:46:53 AM)

Here you go! Fetlife has over 14,000 "kinksters in India. In fact, there is a Munch in Mumbai on April 13. There is a group called RIK -Kinky in India that sounds similar to our educational groups here. They have monthly meetings, Munches, lectures/educational stuff... See..did all the legwork for you..all you have to do is show up and socialize!



Phoenixpower -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 11:49:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: dom50m4subf
What are ur opinion?


I am just using the lawnmower to get the weed out....



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 12:40:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
3. I apologize for knowing nothing about what's acceptable for dating in India. But here in the US, it's not difficult to get dates with vanilla (nonkinky) women. On the first or second date, I'd give one a kiss and give her rump a firm but not hard swat. That would be the moment of truth - was she sub or at least open to exploring? Again, I don't know if that's possible in India.
Steven, noooo. I love your advice usually, but not this one. I seriously hate anyone touching my bootie, if he hasn't asked for permission to first. For some reason, it ellicits an unpleasant emotion in me, so I would never advise someone to do that.

OP, your profile says
quote:

i intend to stay alone in chennai with my sub/slave for the next three or four years training her and also compensating - paying monthly- her financially as per indian standards and what i deem fit for herr!
right at the beginning. This of course would invite people to try, and immediately get money from you. I mean, you are advertising that you have enough money to take on, and care for a couple of women. Why do that? Why not make your profile less money focused, and more about you, the man/dominant, and what type of woman you need in your life, wherever you are exactly.
Good luck, and welcome, M





MasterCaneman -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 12:51:02 PM)

OP, I read your profile, and it's scam magnet they way you set it up. In fact, it falls very close to soliciting prostitution in how yu describe the financial compensation, so if I were you, I'd change that profile as soon as possible. I'm with BlkTallFullfig(I hate typing some of these handles) in focusing more on YOU rather than what you can DO for them. Look at yourself and ask what it is that someone would want to experience in real life. Play that up, and make them contact you for who you are, not how much is in your bank account. Best of luck in your endeavors.



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 1:05:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman
I'm with BlkTallFullfig(I hate typing some of these handles)
Geez, I'll try and not feel hurt. I will say that you're not the first person I apparently offended in going back to this handle (from sexybossybbw), but it's too late. I'm already here, and it describes me perfectly. M



dom51m4subf -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 1:07:06 PM)

Yes blktall and caneman; i understood it; i shall rewrite that;
@tieme.. thanks for your viewing my full profile, i dont want to comment on munches and all legwork;

I will revert later with a mod profile;

I really believe that CM can initiate IP display; somebody talked of privacy; this is an open forum; and google still looks at your "interest contact" because i found targetted advt;

And there are many over-the-top profiles, ; i can point the profiles if reqd; they can be marked as scam profiles and advise profile owners to modify before posting.

And today when i exchanged messages five times, spam filter kicked-in; no grouse; but replying to messages is not spam....



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 1:13:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: dom51m4subf
I will revert later with a mod profile
Why later, if that is the specific problem you are complaining about? You ask for... You get... You don't like. They do say "look in the mirror" for a good reason oftentimes.

quote:

I really believe that CM can initiate IP display; somebody talked of privacy; this is an open forum; and google still looks at your "interest contact" because i found targetted advt;
If collarme did that, most people would exit this site, because it would be too much of a privacy infringement. Are you insane? Why would any site, but especially this one, do that? For your convenience, when you're the one advertising for people who may want/need money.

quote:

And there are many over-the-top profiles, ; i can point the profiles if reqd; they can be marked as scam profiles and advise profile owners to modify before posting.
Again, look in the mirror for the problem. Your profile is WAY over the top, and desperate sounding if you ask me. You sound like a frustrated 51yo, who wants an obedient woman soooo badly, that he is willing to pay her money to be/stay with him. M



LadyPact -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 1:15:38 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: dom51m4subf

Yes blktall and caneman; i understood it; i shall rewrite that;
@tieme.. thanks for your viewing my full profile, i dont want to comment on munches and all legwork;

I will revert later with a mod profile;

I really believe that CM can initiate IP display; somebody talked of privacy; this is an open forum; and google still looks at your "interest contact" because i found targetted advt;

And there are many over-the-top profiles, ; i can point the profiles if reqd; they can be marked as scam profiles and advise profile owners to modify before posting.

And today when i exchanged messages five times, spam filter kicked-in; no grouse; but replying to messages is not spam....
Are you sending a number of messages out to people that are very similar in wording or that are not likely to be wanted by the receivers? That will trip the spam filter.




OsideGirl -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 1:20:39 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

quote:

ORIGINAL: dom51m4subf
I will revert later with a mod profile
Why later, if that is the specific problem you are complaining about? You ask for... You get... You don't like. They do say "look in the mirror" for a good reason oftentimes.

quote:

I really believe that CM can initiate IP display; somebody talked of privacy; this is an open forum; and google still looks at your "interest contact" because i found targetted advt;
If collarme did that, most people would exit this site, because it would be too much of a privacy infringement. Are you insane? Why would any site, but especially this one, do that? For your convenience, when you're the one advertising for people who may want/need money.
Not to mention the first time someone gets tracked down/hacked because of an IP address being published they would get sued to the high heavens.

quote:

And there are many over-the-top profiles, ; i can point the profiles if reqd; they can be marked as scam profiles and advise profile owners to modify before posting.
What makes us trust you as an authority on what is fake and what is not? I could just as easily tag YOUR profile as a scam and have you removed under your own system.



BlkTallFullfig -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 1:36:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
Not to mention the first time someone gets tracked down/hacked because of an IP address being published they would get sued to the high heavens.
He wants what everyone who comes whining wants IMO; someone please do the work of being smart, and use good judgement so I don't have to. Wouldn't it be nice if the girls were picked out, and deemed real/ready for him to sellect. M



OsideGirl -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 1:38:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
Not to mention the first time someone gets tracked down/hacked because of an IP address being published they would get sued to the high heavens.
He wants what everyone who comes whining wants IMO; someone please do the work of being smart, and use good judgement so I don't have to. Wouldn't it be nice if the girls were picked out, and deemed real/ready for him to sellect. M



I agree. I was taught that things come to you when you put effort into getting those things. This idea that someone can come onto a kinky website, not have to put in any effort into the search and have everything drop into your lap, is astounding to me.



dom51m4subf -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 2:23:51 PM)

I am talking of raring; not booting;

If OTT profile are identified like my whining profile, they can be modded;

Why FB has likes/dis? A ten point rating is a flag not a boot!

And the ip hacking is a jargon; all mail, chat and blog forums track / keep ip record; and i can show forums where ip is shown; in usa; so if i start a blog site and bloggers join, i can put a T&C that ip shall be displayed. Then it is blogger choiceto join; and showing ip is no crime; and you cannot hack a user computer that way easily,




OsideGirl -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 2:43:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: dom51m4subf

I am talking of raring; not booting;

If OTT profile are identified like my whining profile, they can be modded;

Why FB has likes/dis? A ten point rating is a flag not a boot!

And the ip hacking is a jargon; all mail, chat and blog forums track / keep ip record; and i can show forums where ip is shown; in usa; so if i start a blog site and bloggers join, i can put a T&C that ip shall be displayed. Then it is blogger choiceto join; and showing ip is no crime; and you cannot hack a user computer that way easily,




Showing an IP may not be a crime, but if someone uses that information to do harm, the site would be liable because they made the information public.

Whether you like that fact or not, it is a fact. The owners of CollarMe are not willing to open themselves up to being sued, just because you can't get past someone who is fake on the internet.

As for the rating thing, let me give you some perspective: when new women sign up on this site, they are deluged by guys reporting and emailing the women that they are fake.....in an attempt to get the women to get naked on a webcam to prove that they are female. In some cases the men have multiple accounts designed to harass the women. So, your method doesn't work.

So, get it through your head.....CollarMe's policy is that they do not allow blacklisting. They will not publish IP addresses and open themselves up to litigation.

If you don't like that, feel free to leave and start your own site.



LadyPact -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 2:46:37 PM)

Funny when the subject of rating comes up, it's always some dude bitching about chicks.

For what it's worth, there are just as many folks, if not more, who would leave the site if rating was implemented. I know I would. Not to mention, it's bad business. Ask any social venue, website, bar, dance club, what happens when you drive the females away.

When you signed ToS to join this site, the site didn't have a rating system implemented. It's not a service that they offer you as a member here. If you'd like to make a suggestion to the site, you can always write Support with your wonderful plan.



OsideGirl -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 2:53:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Funny when the subject of rating comes up, it's always some dude bitching about chicks.



Judging by some of the emails my friend is getting on the other side.......guys should be really frightened if a rating system is implemented. Most of the guys emailing would absolutely not like how she would rate them.



StrongSpirit -> RE: how to weed the fakes? (4/7/2013 2:55:19 PM)

First and foremost, there are two kinds of fakes - the scammers/fishers and the 'not my kink' people.

Scammers can not be removed from a free websites. Charge a bit of cash and you kill 99% of the scammers. They flee to free websites, it's pure business sense. If you want no scammers, look for a pay site.

As for the 'not my kink', they belong here just as much as anyone else



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