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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/12/2013 1:36:25 PM   
OsideGirl


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Her relationship with her owner / wife had fallen apart, and the arrangement was in name only at that point


Yup, because cheaters never lie. I suppose her wife just doesn't understand her either.

She's lying to the most important person in her life. The person that she made vows to and you somehow think she's not capable of lying to someone who isn't the most important person in her life?

And even if the above is the truth, that doesn't excuse your Mistress from her behavior. She's signing (worthless) contracts with someone else's wife!

I'll go with Searching and LP on this one.



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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/12/2013 1:56:23 PM   
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If a dominant can't stop the madness of high school chaos and contributes to it.... needing the protection of a pet because she is too nice and gets herself into stupid situations and her pet comes to talk about it publicly and with strangers and no one understands or knows what to do....


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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/12/2013 1:57:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LostLionCub
And the 'visits' were meant for this woman to come to live, not to visit. Her relationship with her owner / wife had fallen apart, and the arrangement was in name only at that point

I was not there and I don't know all the details. I can tell you that when I [accidentally] met Carol I was "married in name only". Before I felt I could do much of anything I had to clear up the "in name only" part. And when I say "in name only" what I mean is a married couple how owned a house together physically separated, purchased a second house, and had been physically separated for a year with little to no contact. We weren't living in the same home grumbling at each other. There'd been SIGNIFICANT action done in terms of legal & physical separation.

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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/12/2013 2:06:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LostLionCub
This woman was planning on going from online to IRL, and she'd already signed agreements to
be owned by my Mistress,

Your mistress must think awfully high of herself to assume that someone who has already
signed a lifelong contract with another person would suddenly and magically adhere to this
newly formed agreement with a stranger they met on the internet.

Perhaps, instead of you doing the searching for the slave for her, as you mention in your profile,
you should have your mistress ask her master to help find a qualified candidate. I mean, geez,
if it's truly only housecleaning she is after, it really shouldn't be this hard. Try Merry Maids.

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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/12/2013 4:01:56 PM   
LafayetteLady


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Status: offline 		So let's see if I have this straight.....your mistress has her own master, and she is now looking for someone to do her housework for her. She found someone who is married, and before they even met, this person (digitally) signed a contract agreeing to all this, and actually came to their home with the intent of never leaving. Meanwhile, you are simply a "pet," who, according to your profile *may* suffer from Asberger's, but have never actually been diagnosed, so it is really simply an excuse for your lack of social skills.

And you aren't sure if something is "amiss?" Seriously?


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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/12/2013 5:14:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LostLionCub

my Mistress has been looking for a slave, and she had found one on FetLife, and had been speaking to her for some time. She had seemed like she'd be perfect for her, not wanting sex, willingness to clean and be generally treated like a being there to clean up and help around the house. Then, came the problems....

Perhaps the woman realized she wouldn't be fulfilled having no sex and only being around to do the chores. That sounds horrible to me personally and I don't understand why anyone would want it. I KNOW people do and that's perfectly fine but maybe she realized talking about it was one thing and actually having to do it wasn't as appealing? Just a thought.......luci

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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/12/2013 5:16:29 PM   
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I am wondering why does your mistress need someone else to come and clean, when she already has you?

Is your mistress so disorganised that her messes are too much for the two of you to keep up with?

Presumably, you would have the majority of the cleaning to do, and then she would have a specific task or 3 to do herself.

Well-working households usually work because people work together to fix issues, and people typically tidy after themselves.



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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/12/2013 10:58:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slaveluci


quote:

ORIGINAL: LostLionCub

my Mistress has been looking for a slave, and she had found one on FetLife, and had been speaking to her for some time. She had seemed like she'd be perfect for her, not wanting sex, willingness to clean and be generally treated like a being there to clean up and help around the house. Then, came the problems....

Perhaps the woman realized she wouldn't be fulfilled having no sex and only being around to do the chores. That sounds horrible to me personally and I don't understand why anyone would want it. I KNOW people do and that's perfectly fine but maybe she realized talking about it was one thing and actually having to do it wasn't as appealing? Just a thought.......luci


Possibly that, or she really would be happy with a service-only relationship but when she actually got to the house there was something about one or all of the other three parties or their dynamic that she didn't like (I'm not clear on how many of them live together). OP - Your profile states you were pet to this same woman before and she treated you horribly. Perhaps whatever you felt the first time round, this woman is feeling now.

Or possibly she was hoping this would be a magic rescue from her marriage and it turned out not to be simple.

Sounds like a number of people here are making some poorly-thought out decisions. I think both slave and Mistress were naive in thinking they could go right from online to live in, even overlooking the fact the slave is still married AND there were multiple warning signs that this person might be trouble.

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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/13/2013 5:05:20 PM   
njlauren


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Status: offline 		The whole thing sounds like what the marine corps calls a clusterfuck, in that you have a potential slave who is still married and under contract to her wife/owner, and she signs a service contract as a live in with your Mistress, and then shows up, somehow freaks out, shows up again and then wants to renegotiate the terms of the deal? I think your M made a major mistake even agreeing to anything with this person, online or not, the first thing, if I happened to be a dominant, would be to tell her that she needed to make a split from her old relationship first, that I wouldn't act as the catalyst to break that up; it isn't fair to the prior owner, and I also wouldn't want an irate M showing up on my doorstep accusing me of breaking up their marriage/relationship, either. And to have her show up, spend the night, and leave, either means she has no intention of leaving the other relationship and was looking to 'play' at this, or they don't have their shit in gear.

I have known several lifestyle M's over the years, and one of the things they do with potential s's, live in ones, is to make sure they have everything straightened out, that they are no longer living with the other person, have no financial liabilities and the like, and often want proof (it may seem cold, but they will talk to the ex if they don't think the person is telling them the truth). One of the joys of online things like this is they are so, so easy to bullshit about, and quite frankly, it tends to attract those with their heads up their ass a lot IME, it is a lot harder when people have met and gotten to know each other.

My advice? If your M actually listens to you, tell her to get as far away from this one as possible, she may be a person going through the end of a bad relationship, but if she is, she is doing it all fucked up, and she is going to get caught in the crossfire.

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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/13/2013 7:02:04 PM   
seekingreality


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ORIGINAL: LostLionCub

my Mistress has been looking for a slave, and she had found one on FetLife, and had been speaking to her for some time. She had seemed like she'd be perfect for her, not wanting sex, willingness to clean and be generally treated like a being there to clean up and help around the house. Then, came the problems.... According to my Mistress, this 'slave' keeps trying to top her from the bottom, seeming at first like she'll obey, then demanding things and trying to manipulate my Mistress to do what she wants her to do.

Fortunately, all of this has been going on ONLY online. Although, she had brought her down once, and she'd been in the home for the night, and then left early the next day, claiming that she missed her owner / wife that she'd previously said she was more than willing to leave. The behavior of going from slave-like in all ways and begging to be 'saved' and brought to be my Mistress' slave to trying to manipulate her and demanding things continued, even through her being brought down a second time, only to turn around once more and leave to return to her owner / wife. my Mistress has repeatedly given her chances, as she's wont to do because she's kind, only to be blown off and all but abused and manipulated by this woman.

Finally, just tonight, she was arguing with her, and this 'slave' demanded that if she were to come down and stay, my Mistress would have to proclaim her as her second AND have sex with her, then when her demands were shot down, she basically 'screamed' at my Mistress. i KNOW, despite being only a pet, that this is NOT normal behavior.

But.... i don't know if this is a sign of this woman being only a submissive who doesn't know what she wants, or if she's a manipulative b*tch, or a dom who doesn't know it. How can i tell? And, is something majorly amiss here, or is this a normal behavior for some 'slaves'? By the way, this woman who claims to be a slave is nearly 50, and has been a 'slave' for at least ten years.


The real question is why your mistress is putting up with all this online rigamarole. The online sub can only spew out as much drama and BS as your mistress with accept. Your mistress sounds pretty desperate to put up with all this.

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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/13/2013 10:36:54 PM   
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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/14/2013 12:23:46 AM   
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why do you care? It's up to your Mistress to take care of this issue, not yours.



I would certainly care if it were my Master doing all this, because sooner or later all this drama is going to impact the whole household.

Though I think my caring would be more a case of 'should I leave now, since his judgment is clearly not as sound as I thought?'

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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/14/2013 8:11:03 AM   
OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

why do you care? It's up to your Mistress to take care of this issue, not yours.



I would certainly care if it were my Master doing all this, because sooner or later all this drama is going to impact the whole household.

Though I think my caring would be more a case of 'should I leave now, since his judgment is clearly not as sound as I thought?'


I'm with Athena. If Master was trying to "get a contract" with someone that is lying and cheating on their spouse/shopping for a new relationship while still in the old one, I'd question if he's really the person I thought he was. I also agree that in poly situations, even if it's a V rather than an O, the drama still ends up affecting the other relationships.


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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/14/2013 9:47:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm wondering if the op has ever met this mistress. And I'm betting the sub is male.

Danger Will Robinson. OP, get help picking healthy partners and you won't ever have to deal with this drama llama again.

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RE: Is this a sign of something amiss? - 4/14/2013 1:07:41 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		sure, what happens to myself would be a question but I would not interfere in what my Mistress was doing. I'd wait until it all happened and where all the pieces fell first and THEN and only then would I decide what I should do with myself concerning MY part of the relationship. Until then, what she does is her own concern, not mine. I wouldn't be telling the Mistress what she should or shouldn't do or what that person was doing to her Her unless she specifically asked me. Until then I'd consider her an adult and let her do what she wanted to do. Then if it affected me and my views of her, then and only then would I make a decision on what I should do with myself.


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