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La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 5:15:15 PM

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Terrabonne parish in Louisiana has just approved[and expected to be signed into law this week] a measure banning saggy pants that show your underwear.It targets the public wearing of pants—and, oddly, skirts—that hang “below the waist” and “expose the skin or undergarments.” Violators will be slapped with fines: $50 for the first offense, $100 for the second, and $100 plus 16 hours of public service for each subsequent offense.

While I personally do not like the so-called "style",I am not sure if there should be a law banning it. Read more here.

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 5:20:45 PM

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yeah, you wouldn't want to "punish" people for looking like a cliche would you?

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 6:14:09 PM

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“The proposed ordinance as described would also be unconstitutionally vague and overbroad. It allows no accidental slippage. It allows no one to inadvertently have underwear peek out while bending over. It makes no concessions for the stereotype of ‘plumber’s’ or ‘carpenter’s crack.’

damn tha ladies enjoying a diet coke break will have less of a view now...

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 6:37:13 PM

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They passed the same ordinance in Decambre, Lousiana in 2007,
and several other cities in other states have followed suit.

The racial profile angle is an interesting one, as even President Obama called out to his "brothers".

Barack Obama, speaking just prior to the 2008 US Presidential Election appeared on MTV and
stated that laws banning the practice of wearing low-slung pants that expose one's underwear
were "a waste of time". However, he did follow that up with the statement: "Having said that,
brothers should pull up their pants. You are walking by your mother, your grandmother, your
underwear is showing. What's wrong with that? Come on. Some people might not want to
see your underwear. I’m one of them.

I live in Louisiana, and trust me, I'm keeping my pants off the ground from now on.

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 7:01:30 PM

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Terrabonne parish in Louisiana has just approved[and expected to be signed into law this week] a measure banning saggy pants that show your underwear.It targets the public wearing of pants—and, oddly, skirts—that hang “below the waist” and “expose the skin or undergarments.” Violators will be slapped with fines: $50 for the first offense, $100 for the second, and $100 plus 16 hours of public service for each subsequent offense.

While I personally do not like the so-called "style",I am not sure if there should be a law banning it. Read more here.

I don't let men on my production (construction) crews wear earings.

I don't give a shit if they look good doing it...it ain't happening.

I'm sure I've fucked over someone's civil rights....I really don't give a fuck.

Wanna wear earings? Wear 'em after you leave my employ.

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 7:21:56 PM

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The anti-authoritarian in me has gone on holiday.

So, yes! Ban them! I frigging hate them!!

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 7:35:01 PM

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I don't let men on my production (construction) crews wear earings.

Why not? Safety? I can see a ban on big hoops, or dangling things, but even when I worked a job where my wedding ring spent the work week on a chain around my neck, I never had the slightest concern about a stud in my ear.

Men with earrings have been common long enough that even the most uptight little old ladies aren't bothered by them anymore, and Seattle isn't exactly a hotbed of uber-conservative morality anyway.

As to the thread topic, what a stupid law.

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 7:36:04 PM

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I believe other laws of this sort have been successfully challenged on First Amendment free-speech grounds.

Whether or not it's speech (or expression, which is also considered speech) is up for debate. But when everything is covered, I don't know why the state feels they need to get involved. Sure, it's underwear...but you still see less than you do at the beach or the local pool.

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 7:37:55 PM

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I don't let men on my production (construction) crews wear earings.

Why not? Safety? I can see a ban on big hoops, or dangling things, but even when I worked a job where my wedding ring spent the work week on a chain around my neck, I never had the slightest concern about a stud in my ear.

Men with earrings have been common long enough that even the most uptight little old ladies aren't bothered by them anymore, and Seattle isn't exactly a hotbed of uber-conservative morality anyway.

As to the thread topic, what a stupid law.

Just don't like 'em...personal preference.

I don't want my teams preferences telling my customers about them....I want them to express us, in everything they do.

(If someone ever opted to sue me, I'd lay down like a frightened school girl....I'd lose before we crossed the courthouse steps. Still don't like them and for the above reasons....so, until I get sued...das da way it is).

And if any of my production staff ever wore baggy pants...they'd be sent home and told to come back with a pair that fit.

The way I see things is....a man's wallet should be reasonably close to his hips....not his Air Jordans.

(It's good to be King).

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 7:38:07 PM

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The anti-authoritarian in me has gone on holiday.

So, yes! Ban them! I frigging hate them!!

haha i also hate them... though i don't know that banning them is the answer. it is freedom of expression afterall. i'm not sure that it means quite what the article i read stated it does... and if it does i think we have a lot of confused boys out there.

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 7:48:07 PM

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Just don't like 'em...personal preference.

Fair enough. It's still a free enough country that an employer can set his dress code policies.

I know a couple damn fine carpenters up there though, where you would lose the opportunity to have their workmanship and jobsite leadership speak for your company, because of what a little bit of personal jewelry might say about them.

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 7:56:51 PM

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i'm not sure that it means quite what the article i read stated it does... and if it does i think we have a lot of confused boys out there.

Breagha,from knowing a prison nurse and 3 guards I know,they say the meaning of the saggy pants in prison meant the wearer was available for sex..plain and simple.Snopes says it wasn't...but I doubt they have spent time in prisons.I know they aren't allowed belts in prison either,so that might add to the problem.Whatever the reason is,it started in prison and spread out through rappers and onward.

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 8:25:51 PM

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I'm not seeing this as gender specific. Whaletails would appear to be a violation as well.

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/16/2013 8:57:26 PM

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I say keep them…its harder for crooks to run with their pants halfway to their knees.

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/17/2013 1:29:46 PM

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I'm not seeing this as gender specific. Whaletails would appear to be a violation as well.

I know that I am going to regret asking this but, Whaletails? What is that?

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/17/2013 2:24:10 PM

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though i don't know that banning them is the answer. it is freedom of expression afterall.

So is nudity. Even fornicating in public can be seen as a form of expression. The problem with freedom is that others have freedoms too. Like not seeing these idiots with their pants hanging down to their ankles.

Ban it.

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/17/2013 2:59:03 PM

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Seeing the thong coming up above hip riding pants

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/17/2013 5:18:14 PM

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omg. If I were to ban all the things I see people wearing that I, personally, find hideous, the list would be very, very long.

People should be free to dress how they want in public (excepting nudity laws, of course). So assuming these guys are in fact wearing underwear that covers all relevant parts - I just don't care if they want to wear their pants at the hips, below their hips, their knees, whatever. Let's just leave aside the discussion of how unflattering this look is. There is a lot of unflattering out there that goes unregulated. Why pick on this particular style of unflattering?

What disturbs me more about this is the following:

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“Hopefully, it’ll get these young men to pull up their pants,” Terreborne council member Russell Hornsby told Yahoo! Shine of the saggy pants ban.

Hornsby’s colleague John Navy proposed the ordinance after many constituents had called upon the council to do something about the pants problem.

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Hornsby added, “The problem is our young men are emulating prisoners. It sends a sign that you’re available for sex. It’s a bad example to set.”

The idea that low-slung pants in prison signal some sort of sexual come-on is one long-held, widely disputed belief about the style’s origins.

In other words, the main objection stems from a belief that the style is homosexual in nature. And if that is the case, I'm donating right now to the ACLU to fight this piece of legislation. Wrong.

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RE: La. parish passes bill to ban saggy pants - 4/18/2013 4:28:20 AM

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So the right to own a gun is protected by the constitution, but not the right to dress like a halfwit?
Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it?

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