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need advice on tuition mistake - 4/21/2013 12:45:39 PM   
defiantbadgirl


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Status: offline 		Shortly after meeting my Sir, I learned the college we attend was charging him out of state tuition. I thought his tuition was high and was shocked to learn of the college's mistake. They stopped charging him out of state tuition when made aware of the situation, but didn't refund the money he was overcharged. Now they're saying he's maxed out on his loans and grants when he's just a few credits away from graduating. Since they didn't refund the money he was overcharged, shouldn't he be able to attend school free equal to the amount he was overcharged? What can we do about this? Who can we go to other than the financial aid office that made the mistake and refused to refund his money?

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They said the fact that he graduated from high school in Texas lead to their assumption and he didn't prove otherwise. I guess his in state off campus address, in state driver's license, in state vehicle tags, and independent student status didn't count as proof of his in state residency? Yes, he graduated from high school in Texas ....YEARS AGO and moved to the state we live in. (He had been living in state for approximately 10 years before he started college.) He was in his late 30's at the time they were overcharging him. I can't understand how they thought an older independent student with an in state id, address, and vehicle tags could be an out of state student.

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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/21/2013 1:03:54 PM   
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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/21/2013 1:49:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		How long have you been with "sir"? It seems to me that this should have been addressed a long time ago.

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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/21/2013 2:12:38 PM   
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It was HIS responsibility to make sure he was being charged in state tuition, not theirs. They have no responsibility towards him to refund it. If you really want to fight it though, hire an attorney. Good luck with that.

ETA: When you start school, no matter what your age, it is your responsibility to make sure that you prove to them you are in state, which means at the start of the semester, you must show them proper ID that you are an in state student. They don't do the work for you. YOU must do the work. If you don't then they will consider you out of state if they see you graduated in another state..period.

I'm 41. When I started school, I had to prove I was in state because I graduated in PA over 20 years ago. Yup, I have a MD address. Doesn't matter. Maybe next time, he should read his forms more carefully about his responsibilities and liabilities.


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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/21/2013 2:43:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can't follow your post. What's the situation?

1. They admitted they screwed up but haven't refunded him.
2. They have not admitted they screwed up.

The first step is a written acknowledgement that he should have been charged in-state rates. Once that's obtained, then you can request a refund. Do that, and see if they do, or if they give a reason why not.

Basically, you're stating that they didn't refund him but not why. You need to know why.

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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/21/2013 3:49:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, lw is right. Having an in state address, driver's license, etc isn't necessarily the criteria to determine whether he should have been charged in state tuition. Every student who is attending the school on an out of state resident status is going to have those things. What he could have used to prove his in state residency at the time of registration would have been his state tax return forms. That proves prior residency in the state where he is attending school.

Your Sir is not necessarily entitled to a refund or comp equivalent of past tuition. If he signed the registration form with any out of state designation, he agreed to those terms, and that rate, when he started school.


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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/21/2013 4:09:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Check to see if the school has an ombudsman. The post exists to facilitate fixing just that sort of screwup.

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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/21/2013 6:21:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm a veteran. When I was going to school in the 90's my college did not charge tuition to Gulf War Era veterans, but I was going to school for a while before I learned this. They stopped charging me tuition after I proved I was a veteran, but did not refund me for the time I was attending but had not demonstrated that I was a veteran.

While the burden may have been on your Sir to have proven he was an in state student, quite likely if you make a big enough stink the school will do something about it. Do try the ombudsman or whoever will listen, including your congressperson.

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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/22/2013 3:59:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you contact the ombudsman chances are you MIGHT be able to get some of the loan money refunded. As far as any of the grants and financial aid, you probably will not get any of that refunded. Financial aid is a yearly budget and the school grants that money based on what is allocated per year. If you apply for financial aid late in the year, it is possible to receive less funding. This is because they have already granted those who applied earlier full funding. Just like you may actually qualify for financial, but may not receive any of that aid because there isn't any left. This process makes it really hard to deal with any retroactive dealings, well that and the fact that financial aid and the majority of grants are federally funded.



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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/22/2013 5:09:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		So basically, he received Grants, which are essentially "free money" and he wants a refund for that?

Do you ever even logically think about things before you post?

When I was attending college, I received Grants. I knew how much each semester would cost (minus book costs), by adding up the credits. So if they had tried to charge me as an out of state student, I would have noticed the difference.

Since he couldn't be bothered to do that, why should he be rewarded for that?

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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/22/2013 5:38:02 PM   
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So basically, he received Grants, which are essentially "free money" and he wants a refund for that?

He received a combination of grants and loans.

Do you ever even logically think about things before you post?

I grow tired of your rude insults.

When I was attending college, I received Grants. I knew how much each semester would cost (minus book costs), by adding up the credits. So if they had tried to charge me as an out of state student, I would have noticed the difference.

Since he couldn't be bothered to do that, why should he be rewarded for that?


When a government agency makes a mistake that results in an overpayment, they expect the overpayment to be returned. Does that mean they are being rewarded? The school made a mistake, he didn't notice it at first and I agree he should have. The fact is, a mistake was made. Since he has to pay back those loans, he should have free tuition equal to the amount he was overcharged.

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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/22/2013 5:56:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		So, what did the Ombudsman say when you called today?

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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/22/2013 6:02:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Or they consider that amount to have come out of his grants and therefore, he doesn't deserve more free money.

More than 1/2 a dozen people have told you it was his responsibility to notice what was going on.

You are looking for him to get free tuition. Did the school give him the loans? Did the school provide the grants? No, they didn't, so why should they have to provide for the difference.

He was charged the higher tuition rate, and his loans and grants were based on those rates, and those rates were paid.

He can apply for scholarships. Look at fastweb.com. They list all kinds of scholarships that are available based on ethnicity, grades, course of study, and many that are simply based on essays or a lottery type drawing. Of course, that means he would have to actually put some effort into getting more money for school.

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RE: need advice on tuition mistake - 4/22/2013 6:20:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think you both need to sit down and start taking things a little more serious, like adults do. As of right now, from all your past posts, you both sound either very naive or immature. At your ages you both should be starting to learn these things and when you go to college, there's a reason they have financial officers and ombudsman and counselors. They expect you to be adults when you attend college and know how to fill out your paperwork and how to read it all carefully. It's no different than filling out and paying your taxes. If you send in your taxes late and you now have to pay a penalty, do you think you should get your refund anyway?

This all really does come down to be a responsible adult and a child.


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