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The Supreme CT has ruled that money is free speech protected by the 1st Amendment.
On the upside, I take some heart that a small minority of Americans can stonewall the US government.
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Gun nuts are not easy to deal with. They don't listen and they know everything. There's a strong bias and paranoia about them. They have a strong belief that guns "protect them from something." They can be one-issue voters, who if crossed will work hard in the next election to oust a sitting politician who dared vote for gun control.
On a personal side of the equation:
Two of my female clients have seen their marriages go off the rails and carom toward divorce because their men were jealous, secretive, frustrated, and armed. One guy secretly kept guns under the bed. Another guy used the guns to threaten suicide if the woman left him. When I hear these stories, I fear for the lives of the women and children involved. I see protective orders and domestic violence convictions around the corner -- all for what?
One of my clients who came from a rough part of the inner city said he used to own a gun, but that he did not like the way it made him feel. So he got rid of it. It's pretty weird to be a gun enthusiast. I would have my empathy for the reluctantly armed, someone who had a gun but wished he didn't need it.
None of this relates to hunters. But hunting is not the issue at hand here.
First of all, I resent the term "gun nut". I have been a safe and sane recreational shooter since I was nine years old. I carried an M-16 and an M-60 for six years in the Army, and I'm a current NYS pistol permit holder, a title that is not easy to claim. It's not about hunting, but the fact that as U.S. citizens we have an inalienable right to possess these instruments. I do not suffer from paranoia or bias, and as a disabled person, my guns do indeed protect me from "something", which is the social classes in this country that prefer to target the weak and disabled because they're "easy" marks.
That being said, I have no issues with background checks as they exist in current form. NCIC is very accurate already, and has done much to keep firearms out of the hands of those not legally permitted to have them. Is it foolproof? No. Why? It's administered by fallible human beings. Before you raise the hue and cry for more gun control laws, stop for a moment and read the ones already on the books. And, hey, howzabout actually enforcing them for a change, huh? Oh! But if we do that, we could possible alienate elements of certain populations that we rely on for votes!
I have been furiously searching for the link, but already here in NYS, there's been complaints from certain quarters about implementing the provisions of the SAFE Act against criminals of a certain ethnic population, inferring that it would be cruel and unusual to add those enhancements to their charges, and if it were to happen, there may be issues with getting votes out of those neighborhoods.
Another problem with the news reports on this subject is...the news reports on this subject. Far too many news agencies have an agenda in regards to this issue, and they are (for the most part) owned and operated by people who are decidedly anti-gun. They do not approach these stories objectively, and in fact do their best to sway opinion to reflect their owner/operator's beliefs. I am especially annoyed when UK news organizations (or is that organisations?) weigh in on what I consider our business. Great Britain is not a violence free Utopia since they effectively outlawed firearm ownership.
Want to see a real-time correlation to guns laws v. violence? Just look at a voting map, and see the centers where firearms ownership is curtailed and overall violent crime and you'll see what I'm saying. This isn't hyperbole, it's fact. I don't put much stock in polls anymore, because the results can too easily be skewed to present the desired answer.
As for your client who got rid of his gun because of how it made him feel? That's too bad. My guns don't make me "feel" anything. They are just instruments to me. Your female clients? Well, you may have a point on some levels with their unbalanced mates, but don't use those examples to paint everyone who's a firearms owner with such a broad brush.
The thing about liberals I've seen is, if they don't want to own a gun, they don't want anyone to own a gun. if a conservative doesn't want to own one, they simply don't. And please don't call me a 'gun nut'. It's rude and inaccurate. Thank you.
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