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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/28/2013 1:30:02 PM   
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They seem too fashion statementish to me,
definitely not my taste, espically all the gold, I so
wish they made a larger variety of high quality
restraints in surgical steel, And another peeve I
have restraint wise, is the locking method, I haven't
yet seen a collar or cuff that has a decent lock. by
that I mean one thats actually high quality, compact
and seamlessly blends into the style of collar rather
than a repurposed padlock or a screw shut type of
deal...

I'm a picky chap...


I agree, I don't like the styling of any of those, and they're too flimsily and they don't lock.

You want real locks Aries, check out http://www.traeume-aus-edelstahl.de or https://www.sm-factory.com

As far as more jewelry, day to day kind of collars and bracelets I like this kind of stuff way better than the Tiffany and Cartier pieces. Much more affordable too.







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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/28/2013 1:32:00 PM   
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Or this for bracelets:






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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/28/2013 1:33:34 PM   
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Or this if you like something a bit more substantial:






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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/28/2013 3:33:44 PM   
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The heavens hell sets are nice, but a bit on the bulky
side, still can't see any inbuilt key locks, they are all
still that padlock type of thing.

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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/28/2013 4:06:18 PM   
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The heavens hell sets are nice, but a bit on the bulky
side, still can't see any inbuilt key locks, they are all
still that padlock type of thing.


They're not padlocks, they're custom made locks that happen to have a padlock-like shape, because, engineering wise, padlock-like shapes is what works from these type of applications. All these locks are built-in, in that they are attached, and not removable from the structure at all. They are fully integrated in the design, not just a separate padlock later added to provide a locking mechanism for a none locking structure.

You're not going to find a totally integrated lock that's completely a part of the solid structure of a collar or bracelet, not because nobody has thought to make them, but because they're not feasible unless for extremely expensive custom work.

If what you're objection is to the padlocks is the padlock-like look, go with having the lock in the same color as the rest of the metal, it's the closest you'll ever going to find commercially to what you're looking for, without ordering very expensive custom work.

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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/28/2013 4:13:18 PM   
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There are some swanky-looking custom-made collars on Etsy too.





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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/28/2013 4:15:24 PM   
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On something like this style.

Note how thick the lock is compared to the rest of the structure, and this is of a set you already deemed "bulky". If you want to integrate the lock they way you're thinking of, the entire band will get as thick as that lock is. Even if you would taper off the edges, to integrate it more into the rest of the design, it wouldn't look right, because the extend of tapering would take at least a third of the length of the band, to do it in a none abrupt, elegant way.

With that kind of tapering, you'd end up with a band that's significantly heavier on one side, than the other sides, and have the heavier side too bulky and ugly to have it at the front of a girl's neck, while having it in the back, wouldn't work either because it would make the front of the collar to push against her windpipe giving her trouble breathing, and possible inhibiting blood flow to her brain.

Unless you're willing to settle for a set that significantly bulkier than what you already deemed to bulky, and go with a set that weigh at least 2/3 more than a set you already consider too bulky, you're not going to be able to achieve the design you have in your head.






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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/28/2013 5:48:37 PM   
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The fact I'm not finding many of the collars that are
available being close to what I want, is the general
peeve I was talking about Ishtar. They still look like
padlocks to me... not diggin it. I'd rather go with some
kind of pin or screw arrangement over a padlock.

This is the heavens hell collar.
Still looks too padlocky and heavy but that is pretty close
to what I like.



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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/28/2013 5:58:07 PM   
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I love this one, and think of the engraving possibilities on all of them.
http://www.tiffany.com/Shopping/Item.aspx?sku=GRP05845&mcat=148206&cid=675129&search_params=s+5-p+1-c+675129-r+-x+-n+6-ri+-ni+0-t+


I like that one too!






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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/28/2013 6:12:07 PM   
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If you go with a silver instead of a yellow lock, it doesn't have that pad-lock look so much anymore

Or something like this: http://www.traeume-aus-edelstahl.de/english/jewelry-shackles/stainless-steel-bracelet-massive/

But that leaves again the issue that it's not a keyed lock.

Or order a custom set, they do custom work. But like I said, you can't have a keyed one that doesn't look heavier than what you're looking for.




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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/28/2013 6:15:54 PM   
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Ooo, those are very pretty for romantic couples, but I need/like something rugged on My boys that hangs a little low and can be hidden under their shirt for 24/7 wear (they tuck theirs in their pockets when jewelry isn't allowed at work).
Keep in mind how often the submissive will be wearing her/his collar, because gold is a soft metal and when worn frequently it will be damaged, especially if it has links or parts that rub against each other. I've learned that the hard way with gold jewelry. Stainless or harder metals are better for everyday wear. Even stainless will show signs of wear between the chain links after a year as My boys and I found out.
Not that "wear" is a BAD thing on a Collar, since it demonstrates COMMITMENT...but if you wish to keep it beautiful and unscratched, I recommend saving gold jewelry for special occasions. Just saying.

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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/29/2013 1:25:45 AM   
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I'm not really in market for a collar atm anyway,
in a few years maybe, and who knows there may
be some better designs to choose from by then.

Out of curiosity, what is your first language?

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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/29/2013 6:55:01 AM   
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there may be some better designs to choose from by then.

Out of curiosity, what is your first language?


Different maybe, for sure, but not what you're describing as that's not possible.

Flemish, and then French. English is my third language.

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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/29/2013 1:20:09 PM   
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I've had this bangle on my wish list for years.

I'm still waiting.

<clears her throat so Master can hear it......... >

Gonna hafta put her to work...
That corner looks kinda empty, might need some , ahem, trim...

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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/29/2013 2:10:55 PM   
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Anythings possible beertje, stop being so negitave!

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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/29/2013 3:00:12 PM   
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Anythings possible beertje, stop being so negitave!


I'm not Dutch... culturally calling me such is actually considered rather insulting.

Comparable to calling you an American because you share a common language.

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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/29/2013 3:23:58 PM   
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That would be insulting! No insult intended of course,
except of the teasing variety.

No offence to our American friends here.

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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/29/2013 4:05:15 PM   
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http://onlinestore.jackvartanian.com/bracelets-and-cuffs/handcuff-bracelet-162.html

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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/29/2013 6:13:54 PM   
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I've had this bangle on my wish list for years.

I'm still waiting.

<clears her throat so Master can hear it......... >

Gonna hafta put her to work...
That corner looks kinda empty, might need some , ahem, trim...


When a corner is empty, it's clean.

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RE: The upper crust of BD/SM? - 4/29/2013 6:37:21 PM   
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Anythings possible beertje, stop being so negitave!


I'm not Dutch... culturally calling me such is actually considered rather insulting.

Comparable to calling you an American because you share a common language.

Hey, we don't share a common language *lol*..can't understand one another and all that......

"America and Britain, two countries separated by a common language"

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