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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/24/2006 3:30:35 PM   
LadyScarlett


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Status: offline 		I personally wonder where all these tribute paying submissives are hiding.   I only look for real time.  I also am looking for someone to join the household.  When asked, will you demad my paycheck (from the ones that actually CAN hold a job) I answer, yes, your paycheck goes into the household just like mine.  tribute schmibute, could I get some flowers delivered to my office????

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/24/2006 4:34:56 PM   
openmindedslave


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Status: offline 		Could it be also that many slaves just  don't want to be that involved with a Mistress. I ,mean they want the slice of cake, but they aren't not as interested if it involves  going to the store for the eggs and cake mix if they have to make it first.  A Mistress friend of mine shows in her profile that she has a short leather outfit and 4 inch heels . At first she might play in leather , but eventually if you make it  that long , shes going to probably greet your next visit in a tee shirt and bare feet. She figures she can dom you no matter what shes wearing . Really to many so called slaves seem to try to set the tone in the realtionship.  Including the fact that many don't want to give back but simply take from a Mistresses experience and expertise with out wanting  to give back  on anybnody terms but their own

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/24/2006 4:51:41 PM   
HouseofBear


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Status: offline 		I am not a pro-dom.  I also am not into online relationships, as they are not in the least satisfying to me.  What I seek is a submissive who is genuinely interested in many aspects of the lifestyle and who enjoys pleasing, learning and growing.  Do I expect service?  Yes.  If I want the dishes done, I do not expect them to pout about it.  That also does not mean that I sit on my butt all the time while they drudge, as there are plenty of things to be done around my house, chuckles.  Do I expect them to pay their own way, yes.  I work hard at my job, and quite frankly I am not going to support someone to be a play toy (and especially not while they are attempting to dictate to me how they wish to be topped, chuckles).  If they live with me, then they are expected to pay their share of expenses.

Lady Ursa

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/24/2006 4:52:55 PM   
Misstoyou


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ORIGINAL: openmindedslave

... A Mistress friend of mine shows in her profile that she has a short leather outfit and 4 inch heels . At first she might play in leather , but eventually if you make it that long , shes going to probably greet your next visit in a tee shirt and bare feet. ...



The submissives in my life have to suffer the other way around. They get me "normal" from the very beginning, and only if I feel like spoiling them, do they get the cool Domina outfits. lol

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/24/2006 5:44:41 PM   
openmindedslave


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Status: offline 		I like that Miss Marie. They have to earn their treats lol

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/24/2006 6:55:34 PM   
Proprietrix


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I looked at your profile.
Here’s your interest list (this is your entire list)
Loves:
Ass Play
Blindfolds
Bondage
Canes and Crops
Role Playing
Spanking
Whips
Curious About:
Watersports

I can see why a woman would think "So… I blindfold you, play with your ass, cane you, do some role play (online?), spank you, whip you, and pee on you. Umm what’s in it for me? How about 250 dollars like every other Pro Domme is getting for doing the exact same thing?"


Everyone is hitting the nail on the head:
Internet holds little appeal to a lot of people.
Slaves don't run the relationship.
Dominas aren't free fetish fulfillment specialists.
Relationships go both ways.

And as a final thought...
Was it time for yet another tribute thread? I could have sworn we weren't due for another one until Monday.

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/25/2006 5:45:26 AM   
Oumae


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Status: offline 		I don't expect tributes, I'm not of the "its all about me" school of thought either, it may be "all about my way" but I do think both need to be fulfilled.
I've chatted to people online and before meeting I might ask them to write about something for me and surprise surprise most don't make it past this.  Now to my way of thinking if they can't do something small ( I don't ask for a thesis) for me how on earth are they going to serve me real time?

Online isn't my thing, can be a good way to meet people but I don't want to carry on a just on line relationship, my advice to you would be.... be honest and sincere and show it by trying to do your best in what is asked of you.

Oumae

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/25/2006 8:12:05 AM   
MistressSassy66


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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelGA2

as a matter of fact...yes...and laundry, and cleaning...hey...i even do windows




you do windows?? WOW nobody does windows anymore...
Perhaps I should send an application to join My 'family'...

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/25/2006 8:19:16 AM   
MistressSassy66


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyScarlett

I personally wonder where all these tribute paying submissives are hiding.   I only look for real time.  I also am looking for someone to join the household.  When asked, will you demad my paycheck (from the ones that actually CAN hold a job) I answer, yes, your paycheck goes into the household just like mine.  tribute schmibute, could I get some flowers delivered to my office????



they are tied up in My dungeon....LOL
What kind of flowers...I'll get one of them right on it.

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/25/2006 9:04:08 AM   
GoddessDarkAngel


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Status: offline 		When I first started in the Scene 5 years ago, I didn't ask for  tributes I enjoyed Dominantion however what followed was
submissives that didn't show up on time or at all. My time is valuable I decided that in order to serve Me real time a tribute is required. From that moment four years ago I haven't been stood up once. If a slave can't afford to compensate ME for My time then he must have something to offer. Cleaning, Computer skills, Cooking Skills, or Running errands. He will have to prove that he can do those properly in order to serve.
~ Goddess Dark Angel The BadAssBlackChick
http://www.badassblackhchick.com


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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/25/2006 6:29:11 PM   
MzEssensual


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quote:

ORIGINAL: just4umiss

why is it so hard to find a Mistress to serve that is not primarily interested in "tributes"? if they cannot appreciate the lifestyle in and of itself then i think they are being disingenous. i am trying to find a Mistress to serve intitially online and see where it takes us. any advice would be appreciated.

Its some times hard shifting through the bull around.. but they are out there.. I know that cause Im one of them.. so good luck in your search..and dont ever settle for anything but the best for you
MzEssensual

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/25/2006 10:02:17 PM   
mistressrobyn


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Status: offline 		I am also not a pro domme and I have thought aboyt tribute a lot a first I thought that having a sub pay tribute ment that I had to make a play session more for the sub then I would generally, but I realized that any play session is for the sub, with the domme getting her joy out of doing it well,
Now if a sub likes to give gifts to his/her domme to improve the domme's mood, so be it, it can only help both that way
tribute does not have to be money either but anything that the domme needs or might require
But a sub must be cautioned not to think that a tribute gets more than a smile from the domme and a good play session, some subs might think it means they can come to the mistress when ever they want to
so I think tributr is okay as long as the sub know that it is a gift and not a contract with the domme

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/26/2006 1:05:15 AM   
chgosubmale


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Status: offline 		I don't personally have a problem with a domme wanting tribute. There are two areas where I have problems:

a) Dommes who don't mention anything about tribute in their profiles, but then start asking for money when you contact them. There are many people on this forum who are professionals who do not disclose that up front in their profiles.

b) By asking for tribute in the form of, well, tribute, it opens up a question immediately in my mind as to whether this is really a relationship or a professional relationship.

If someone is willing to be beaten, do the laundry, etc., I don't know why paying tribute would be such an issue. Heck, in most vanilla situations, most likely the man is doing most of the paying, at least up front. I don't see why any dominant woman wouldn't want to include at least some financial domination. I personally would want to make my domme's life easier, and one of the most straightforward way to do that is through money. Still, I think asking for money in a way that makes it seem like a session is a bad move. It raises questions in sub's mind and also is likely to make him think he deserves to have his needs met, because, after all, he's the "customer". I'd rather see more requirements to just generally spend money on a domme, at least up front. Make the sub buy every meal, buy small gifts, buy groceriers in a sort of casual, common way that doesn't seem like you are writing a check for services rendered.

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/26/2006 11:59:15 AM   
MistressSassy66


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quote:

ORIGINAL: chgosubmale

I don't personally have a problem with a domme wanting tribute. There are two areas where I have problems:

a) Dommes who don't mention anything about tribute in their profiles, but then start asking for money when you contact them. There are many people on this forum who are professionals who do not disclose that up front in their profiles.

b) By asking for tribute in the form of, well, tribute, it opens up a question immediately in my mind as to whether this is really a relationship or a professional relationship.

If someone is willing to be beaten, do the laundry, etc., I don't know why paying tribute would be such an issue. Heck, in most vanilla situations, most likely the man is doing most of the paying, at least up front. I don't see why any dominant woman wouldn't want to include at least some financial domination. I personally would want to make my domme's life easier, and one of the most straightforward way to do that is through money. Still, I think asking for money in a way that makes it seem like a session is a bad move. It raises questions in sub's mind and also is likely to make him think he deserves to have his needs met, because, after all, he's the "customer". I'd rather see more requirements to just generally spend money on a domme, at least up front. Make the sub buy every meal, buy small gifts, buy groceriers in a sort of casual, common way that doesn't seem like you are writing a check for services rendered.



I mention Tribute.
If someone doesnt know what that word(I have several sites and My own pages here and there) Means,they are weeded out.

I dont always add I will accept the "barter system" because sometimes
I am contacted by ones that,want something for nothing.After chatting with someone and I like their personality I am more than fair.

I pretty sure ALL My profiles are clear as to what I want.
And still those that clearly dont fit the profile write....arrrggghhhh


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In the Immortal Words of Bob....Fuck the dumb shit.

"I love you not only for what you are,But for what I am when I'm with you."- Opening line from a poem by Roy Croft

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/26/2006 12:35:49 PM   
cloudboy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: just4umiss

why is it so hard to find a Mistress to serve that is not primarily interested in "tributes"? if they cannot appreciate the lifestyle in and of itself then i think they are being disingenous. i am trying to find a Mistress to serve intitially online and see where it takes us. any advice would be appreciated.


One thing is true, you will never run into a Maledom profile like this one:

http://www.collarme.com/bdsm/v/259683/details.htm

If a guy wrote such a profile, he'd be stoned to death. (Where the general tone is: you are a dime a dozen, open your wallet, what free labor have you to offer and don't dream of having a meaningful connection to me.)

I suppose some sub guys are into a cold, authoritative tone with an air of exploitation. I guess it would be a kind of human devaluation as kink mixed with a one-way "you serve me" expectation from the DOMME.

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/26/2006 12:37:47 PM   
GoddessDustyGold


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quote:

ORIGINAL: chgosubmale

I don't personally have a problem with a domme wanting tribute. There are two areas where I have problems:

a) Dommes who don't mention anything about tribute in their profiles, but then start asking for money when you contact them. There are many people on this forum who are professionals who do not disclose that up front in their profiles.

b) By asking for tribute in the form of, well, tribute, it opens up a question immediately in my mind as to whether this is really a relationship or a professional relationship.


quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66

I am contacted by ones that,want something for nothing.After chatting with someone and I like their personality I am more than fair.

I pretty sure ALL My profiles are clear as to what I want.
And still those that clearly dont fit the profile write....arrrggghhhh



I wanted to say pretty much to same thing. 
I still do the occasional Pro session, but I no longer offer that as an option on My profile, since it doesn't seem to make a difference in being approached honestly.
So I no longer mention tribute or Professional services.  I do on My website, however.  And I keep that somewhat separate from My search here.  I really don't care if I have Pro sessions or not anyway.
But I am often approached by boys (from this site) who send a casual email stating they will be in town for a couple of days on business, so "let's get together".  They are, in fact, looking for a free session, so I will then advise that I will consider a Professional session.  If that is considered insulting or unfair, then maybe they shouldn't have written, in the first place, with their own assumption that I am available for free play while they are traveling on business.
It works both ways...And I am not the one initiating a correspondence as if seeking a relationship, and then springing an unexpected tribute requirement on anyone.
*Shrug*

< Message edited by GoddessDustyGold -- 6/26/2006 12:39:30 PM >

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/26/2006 4:02:02 PM   
Misstoyou


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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

But I am often approached by boys (from this site) who send a casual email stating they will be in town for a couple of days on business, so "let's get together". They are, in fact, looking for a free session, so I will then advise that I will consider a Professional session. If that is considered insulting or unfair, then maybe they shouldn't have written, in the first place, with their own assumption that I am available for free play while they are traveling on business.



Uh huh. I, personally, always write back, "I don't know where you got the impression, but I'm not a pro."

I mean, do they really expect I'd be interested in playing with some complete stranger, (on their schedule, no less) for nothing? Insult to injury, they often have blank profiles. lol

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/26/2006 9:33:16 PM   
MistressSassy66


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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold


I wanted to say pretty much to same thing. 
I still do the occasional Pro session, but I no longer offer that as an option on My profile, since it doesn't seem to make a difference in being approached honestly.
So I no longer mention tribute or Professional services.  I do on My website, however.  And I keep that somewhat separate from My search here.  I really don't care if I have Pro sessions or not anyway.
But I am often approached by boys (from this site) who send a casual email stating they will be in town for a couple of days on business, so "let's get together".  They are, in fact, looking for a free session, so I will then advise that I will consider a Professional session.  If that is considered insulting or unfair, then maybe they shouldn't have written, in the first place, with their own assumption that I am available for free play while they are traveling on business.
It works both ways...And I am not the one initiating a correspondence as if seeking a relationship, and then springing an unexpected tribute requirement on anyone.
*Shrug*



Thats why I do the tribute thing right off,to deter those I dont need...
When I get the  "i'll be in town for weekend...I double or triple rates anyone willing to pay that is bad news walking.And on top of that I dont session anywhere but in MY dungeon thats why I have it.

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"I love you not only for what you are,But for what I am when I'm with you."- Opening line from a poem by Roy Croft

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/26/2006 11:38:32 PM   
MdmeChanel


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Status: offline 		as in anything in life it is about supply and demand. There are few talented, attractive dominant women that arent pro dommes.   There are a zillion submissives...how does a domina sort the wannabes from the truly submissive ones ?  Tributes arent all about the dollar amount...to me it is about how creative they can be or how hard they try to please me......

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RE: Mistress' and tributes....... - 6/27/2006 10:27:13 AM   
MisPandora


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quote:

ORIGINAL: just4umiss

why is it so hard to find a Mistress to serve that is not primarily interested in "tributes"? if they cannot appreciate the lifestyle in and of itself then i think they are being disingenous. i am trying to find a Mistress to serve intitially online and see where it takes us. any advice would be appreciated.

I'm presuming that you're just looking on online sites where this sort of thing abounds.  If you're seeking to meet someone in the lifestyle for something real, perhaps getting out from behind the computer and seeking out a local group at a munch or meeting might be better suited to what you seek.

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