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RE: I am in trouble - 5/4/2013 7:54:15 PM

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You are taking in too little electrolytes for that amount of water.

About six years ago, my daughter did a horse show in Oklahoma City for ten days when it never got below 100.
We alternated electrolyte drinks and water. Both for the people and the horses.

When we tried just water, we were ill. Thankfully, we had enough sense to follow the vet's suggestions and gave the horses their electrolytes. But it wasn't until we also added them that the people felt okay.

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RE: I am in trouble - 5/5/2013 5:54:27 AM

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Another point is that I donate plasma, and they recommend at least 2 gallons of water to make donating easier.

And how often are you donating plasma? Donating is great, but donating so frequently that it is endangering your own health is not great.

I'm sure they don't mean drink 2 gallons all the time. Probably like a day or two before you donate. So during those days, don't do so many other activities, and still make sure you get enough electrolytes.

Think about this, if you drank a cup of water each hour, and never slept, that would still be only 24 cups a day, nearly half of what you are drinking now.

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RE: I am in trouble - 5/5/2013 6:58:23 AM

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Too much water can be fatal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication

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RE: I am in trouble - 5/8/2013 8:43:49 PM

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Hey Jeff, any news on your hydration issues?

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RE: I am in trouble - 5/9/2013 9:31:43 AM

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I'm going to just jump out on a limb...have you been tested for celiac?? Insulin resistance, electrolyte imbalance, "leaky gut", thyroid issues, gaining/not losing weight on diet/exercise regime, anemia, low salt, potassium & especially magnesium levels that cause cardiac problems are all hallmarks of that disease.
There is a blood test that has a very bad false negative history. Endoscopy & biopsey are the only conclusive tests other than the obvious...go off bread & all flour containing products for a week. If you fiend for carbs/sugar, start feeling better energy & gut response or medications "suddenly are working too well" then you have an answer...gluten free forever. Good news is it will also lower the number of prescriptions you need to take as gut heals

Celtic sea salt in crystal light is more helpful than the sugar & dye laiden gator/power aids

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RE: I am in trouble - 5/9/2013 1:38:19 PM

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I have heard many times over, from many sources that say drinking diet soda, is worse for you than plain old regular.

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I drink one soda a week and it is diet MD.

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RE: I am in trouble - 5/9/2013 3:42:49 PM

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One reason that iced tea became Southern Table Wine is the electrolytes. After working in the heat a shot of sugar and electrolytes works wonders.

Now, if you want to go even older school there is a concoction that goes back to Xerxes and the Persian army. The SCA often calls it Persian Gator Aid. Simple recipe, tp a half gallon of water add a half cup of honey and a half cup of cider vinegar and a sprig of mint.

Greek, Persian, and later, Roman soldiers carried dilute vinegar in their canteens as it was more effective than water at keeping the troops on their feet for long marches. What we know today as "electrolyte replenishment"

If the heat is extreme, I have potassium gluconate tablets in the field kit. The concentrated electrolytes are a godsend for keeping the leg cramps away when working in 108F in hazmat clothing.

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RE: I am in trouble - 5/9/2013 4:14:26 PM

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I have heard many times over, from many sources that say drinking diet soda, is worse for you than plain old regular.

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I drink one soda a week and it is diet MD.

Not if you are diabetic.

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RE: I am in trouble - 5/9/2013 6:30:35 PM

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I think I might have even read somewhere, yes real soda is better even for twd, just drink significantly less of the can. But I don't know. I don't drink soda, so other than knowing diet soda has a lot of noise about it I don't pay much attention otherwise.

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RE: I am in trouble - 5/9/2013 6:36:42 PM

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The condition is called hyponatremia--literally water poisoning. Too much water dilutes your electrolytes and wreaks havoc on your body's attempt at homeostasis. At least I'd assume that's what your practitioner was getting at unless you also have some sort of renal condition or want to give a medication list.

Also, you didn't mention your bp. It would figuratively be low, barring a previous Dx of hypertension.

No matter what, that is too much water. Let's say you walk at a rate in range of your target heart rate--good cardio--in heat, at a pace of 18-20 minutes a mile (maybe you're around 15). Even so, in one hour, you're not losing anywhere near the amount of water you're consuming. Over 3 liters is considered massive consumption, which is reserved mainly for people on medications such as corticosteroids or other medications that are designed to balance minerals with water.

This amount of fluid can also make your heart work too hard as you're increasing your blood volume exponentially, which is why the electrolytes are low.

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RE: I am in trouble - 5/9/2013 6:58:08 PM

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Now, if you want to go even older school there is a concoction that goes back to Xerxes and the Persian army. The SCA often calls it Persian Gator Aid. Simple recipe, tp a half gallon of water add a half cup of honey and a half cup of cider vinegar and a sprig of mint.

Colonial New Englanders called it swichel. Except no mint. And yes, it works, it just tastes terrible.

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RE: I am in trouble - 5/9/2013 7:08:36 PM

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Now, if you want to go even older school there is a concoction that goes back to Xerxes and the Persian army. The SCA often calls it Persian Gator Aid. Simple recipe, tp a half gallon of water add a half cup of honey and a half cup of cider vinegar and a sprig of mint.

Colonial New Englanders called it swichel. Except no mint. And yes, it works, it just tastes terrible.

This is actually a terrible idea. Vinegar depletes potassium in the body, and honey is a simple sugar (although better on the glycemic index than cane or beet sugar) that adds nothing to the balance. As for the mint... really? Dark leafy greens like spinach and kale: yes. Mint? It's a garnish.

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