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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/5/2013 2:07:25 PM

Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Anyone who advocates for a direct impingement action **SHOULD** have their heads examined. Especially given the clear benefits of a piston operated ( or even lever operated ) action to it...

well you sorta got 2 choices, courts and lead.

if courts do not work, then people are left with few choices.

the problem is that judges are in fear for their lives (arizona), and of on the take (california), attorneys have no incentive what so ever to cut into profits from the shit mess they spent the last 200 years creating, the legislatures are owned by the highest monetary bidder, and people are so busy surviving that they do not have the time to wade through all the disinformation out there and study law to the extent that they are able to beat these guys in court.

So down goes frazier.

People are aparthetic because they watch those who go to court against the ptb get railroaded into to the graybar hotel for life.

There is a reason that ALL corporations had a revokable 20 year charter, and only a few years ago the people on the board preached the wonderful necessity of the corps, well there you have it.

made that bed now sleep in it.

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/5/2013 2:12:23 PM

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FR

Does this mean I can get back all those emails I lost last time my computer crashed?

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/5/2013 2:15:12 PM

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nope theyd never admit it.

that was the whole point about liberty.

liberty is the fantasy that your actions in public unless they are harming someone is your own private affair.

cough....

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 10:38:21 AM

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

This ruling was 20 years BEFORE 9/11

I'm not referring to the ruling. I'm referring to the current storage of basically all communications. The ruling you refer to is about admissibility. It doesn't actually mean the government was collecting the level of data that they currently collect. My point is that they are now routinely collecting information - not just when they suspect someone needs to be monitored. And that kind of blanket collection of data IS, in fact, a post 9/11 phenomenon.

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 10:47:26 AM

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I have never been a real fan of the court syatem,Some times lead works better then words...Big brother is ready to come down upon us...Be ready and keep your power dry..My very words to my daughters who are survivalist... and forted up... Our country is gone to hell in a handbasket...Bounty

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 10:53:30 AM

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As one who works for our Interior Ministry, we don't need "admissibility" if we know what criminals are up to, admissible evidence can be developed completely outside the intercepted communications, much as if an informant gave us the information as opposed to a radio receiver or internet intercept.

An example, if your FBI discovers a certain man is purchasing or trafficking a number of Kalashnikovs or several kilos of cocaine, the local police can be instructed to find something improper about his vehicle, or his driving of the vehicle and then "discover" the weapons or drugs in the vehicle. Few people obey all laws scrupulously.

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 10:53:58 AM

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Seriously, I think the next discussion should be how chem trails are being used to control the population......

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 12:19:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle
Now live with the fact that everything you say and do that CAN be recorded and stored, IS recorded and stored.

yabbut.. its only the Russian govt that actually listens to all that stored and recorded stuff.. (which is why the Boston Bomber & his mommy came to be considered extremists)..

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 12:22:12 PM

YN

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All governments monitor these communications, anyone who thinks they do not denies reality.

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 12:23:44 PM

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I can't remember what I said 10 minutes ago, I am pretty sure the government aint doing any better.

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 12:35:05 PM

YN

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If they take an interest in you, they will have a biography of your life produced at government expense superior to those done by academics on important recent historical figures.

< Message edited by YN -- 5/6/2013 12:36:30 PM >

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 12:38:20 PM

mnottertail

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Yeah, but nobody cares least of all me, when they write the story of my life, they are gonna leave my chapter out.

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 12:43:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yeah, but nobody cares least of all me, when they write the story of my life, they are gonna leave my chapter out.

I had to laugh at that one.

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 12:45:28 PM

mnottertail

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Of the billions and billions of conversations going on in life.....
OMFG!!!
LOL!!!
Its the Shizzits~~~~
NO fear!!!

Who the fuck would want to transcribe mine?

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 12:49:43 PM

MasterCaneman

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I already know there's a file on me at least an inch thick. I held a security clearance when I was in the service, had a couple run-ins with the law, been named in a couple of lawsuits, background checks for a couple of jobs and my pistol permit, and I signed petitions at the White House. I have nothing to hide.

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 12:53:13 PM

mnottertail

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And I had one of those super secret shut the fuck up or I will have to kill you and your children and all your relatives and acquaintences clearances for my little stint in the Army.

I have an FFL so they sniffed up my ass there, I aint been the best boy in my life, so they got lotsa paperwork, but Jane Fonda has never blown me, so I am not sure how thick mine is.

Hell, if they want pictures of me beating this motherfucker like I own it, I would only be too glad to oblige.

I get what they want to do with it, but rotsa ruck, we are some uncooperative motherfuckers here, it will go not much of nowhere.

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 1:41:10 PM

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Funny thing, I went right to the CNN archives to check the story, actually watched the video...

He never said a word about what the Guardian said he did.

Of course the video could have been altered.

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 1:53:18 PM

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I agree,a normal jet con trail will soon begin to break up in about 5 minutes..Those I see now days seems to last forever, not only that but if you watch very closely they slowly seem to settle on the mountain tops and trees..I saw this in nam with agent orange...onlyThis time instead of killing the forest they are killing us... Its big brother killing us off and getting ready to set up the elite world goverment....The world president....ol'bill clinton perhaps..Thats the rumor with some of the people in the know...Keep your head down and your power dry.....Bounty

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/6/2013 7:03:31 PM

WantsOfTheFlesh

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Funny thing, I went right to the CNN archives to check the story, actually watched the video...

He never said a word about what the Guardian said he did.

Of course the video could have been altered.

still have tha links?

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RE: NOTICE: ALL COMMUNICATION STORED BY US GOVERNMENT - 5/8/2013 8:20:09 AM

Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: YN

All governments monitor these communications, anyone who thinks they do not denies reality.

and it only works in a kangaroo court or swaying public opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yuC_4mGTs98

that breeds that ^^^^ kind of shit.

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"We the Borg" of the us imperialists....resistance is futile

Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

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