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Urethral Sounds - 5/13/2013 6:22:29 PM

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Okay, I don't know if this should be posted here or in Health & Safety but, for now, it's here unless the Mods move it.

I am curious about urethral sounds. The thing is, I need to get someone to teach me how but I've been a nurse and catheterized people, both men and women, before. I'm wondering, does a person go as far as the bladder with the sound implement or no? And how can one tell if one has gone that far? It seems like the idea behind putting something in the urethra would be kind of the same as placing catheter tubing in there, but......???

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RE: Urethral Sounds - 5/13/2013 7:21:32 PM

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I'm not an expert in this area. Just adding to the convo.

You can go up to, without penetrating the bladder. I know this is hard to convey via the net, but you'll feel it when the sound has resistance, rather than natural vacuum.

My experience only lies with the male recipient. Not females.

The vacuum principle works the same way in the urethra as it does in the ear. (By the way, the person who figured this out is the namesake.) Natural vacuum is what allows an implement to go in smoothly, as it is "sucked" in by the natural differences in air pressure. Hitting a solid, such as the bladder, changes that. Don't push when you feel resistance.

This is an area that, yes, you want somebody to help teach you.

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RE: Urethral Sounds - 5/13/2013 7:30:06 PM

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Ok I have no great info to add, but I have a question:

Why is urethral sounding something you're interested in?

I've never quite gotten what the allure of it is. Is there something I'm missing?

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RE: Urethral Sounds - 5/13/2013 7:52:55 PM

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Why is urethral sounding something you're interested in?

Well, the sub I'm considering is really interested in it and I would like for both of us to get what we need from any dynamic that will take place. So I want to learn how.

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RE: Urethral Sounds - 5/13/2013 7:54:55 PM

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for the male recipient it feels like an ejaculation in reverse as the peristaltic(not vacuum) muscle contractions advance the sound in i have had the rose bud ones used on me . if you have acces to them a 10ml pre filled syringe of lube works very well in the male as it fits right in the opening and as they are metal the conduct electricity so tens and violet wands are possible

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RE: Urethral Sounds - 5/14/2013 2:31:19 PM

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Work in that field. Don't sound a female. There isn't enough urethra to compensate for urethral dilation and she could end up incontinent. Also, if you aren't using sterile technique she could end up with a rip roaring uti.

Sounding a male, i wouldn't put the sound in further than the penis length. You really don't want to put it in as far as the bladder, because you go past the bladder sphincter, and could cause dilation and end up incontinent, which is just as bad in a male as in a female.

Sterile technique is a must. It may not be "50 shades", but betadine is your friend on the penis before sounding. Boiling sounds would be the least you should do to steralize them - autoclaving would be better, in a wrapper, so you can pick them up with sterile gloves, and sterlie lube.

Did i mention that sterile is good?

I need to say it a few more times.

I've seen one domme use wooden sounds - home made - and think this is false economy. One episode of uti's or splinters would prove the point. Get stainless steel, from a name brand company.

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RE: Urethral Sounds - 5/14/2013 2:36:46 PM

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quote:

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Work in that field. Don't sound a female. There isn't enough urethra to compensate for urethral dilation and she could end up incontinent. Also, if you aren't using sterile technique she could end up with a rip roaring uti.

Sounding a male, i wouldn't put the sound in further than the penis length. You really don't want to put it in as far as the bladder, because you go past the bladder sphincter, and could cause dilation and end up incontinent, which is just as bad in a male as in a female.

Sterile technique is a must. It may not be "50 shades", but betadine is your friend on the penis before sounding. Boiling sounds would be the least you should do to steralize them - autoclaving would be better, in a wrapper, so you can pick them up with sterile gloves, and sterlie lube.

Did i mention that sterile is good? I need to say it a few more times.

I've seen one domme use wooden sounds - home made - and think this is false economy. One episode of uti's or splinters would prove the point. Get stainless steel, from a name brand company.

When a person invests in sounds, that should include a small autoclave. I suggest having the sub buy them and the equipment to keep them sterile, with you reinforcing the 'sterile is good' concept as mentioned above.

Sterile gloves and sterile lube for you as well.

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RE: Urethral Sounds - 5/14/2013 3:17:51 PM

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When questioning my Urologist about sounds as a temporary treatment for BPA, he was entirely disinterested in any invasive urethral procedure that had a safer alternative. Which spoke volumes as to his experience with unintended consequences. (Side effects.) As Flowmax has zero kink potential, the search continues for how to have fun safely!

Maybe female UTIs need expanding here? A friend worked the UTI female ward as a nurse assistant. All she did was drain bladders with tiny tubes for women with bladder infections. Other than the number who developed kidney infections as further complications and never walked out of the hospital, it was a good job. I believe she sought other less morbid employment eventually.

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RE: Urethral Sounds - 5/14/2013 4:07:21 PM

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Thank you, all, for your advice. I totally agree that sterile is better.

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RE: Urethral Sounds - 5/14/2013 4:35:20 PM

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The take-away is that 'sterile' is a goal, not a realistic possibility. Just the air in non-sterile environment surgical theaters in seconds allow thousands if not more bacteria and other 'life forms' to land on any exposed surface. Scrub in at a real surgery takes longer than many spend playing with sounds. Every step between the autoclave and the urethra has risks. Sterile tissue at the mouth of the urethra is not possible if the tissue is to survive. RACK!
And get thee to thy physician at the FIRST sign of a UTI. And upon arriving fully disclose the history of the involved anatomy. Cowboying up and 'walking it off' is a fool's errand.

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RE: Urethral Sounds - 5/14/2013 5:38:16 PM

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We ordered a type of sounds (from a place like penisplugsablaze.com). One had an insertable length of about 3 1/2 or 4 inches. I prefer these to rod type sounds, we chose ones with a ring (that went over the head) that would hold it securely in place.

It felt great for him, the feeling of being invaded and stretched there. Every now and then I'd pause in whatever I was doing and would grab the Hitachi and hold it to the underside of his penis, lol. Intense good feelings. I couldn't press too much, nor whack it around even a little bit or else the urethra bled a tiny smear.

The plugs/sounds were metal and we boiled them for at least twenty minutes (time started after the water started boiling, not before), we used sterile lube. He hangs low and that's how we managed a longer insertable. (We started off with smaller ones first, and as he stretched we got larger, longer ones.)

There were no problems whatsoever, even with frequent use. Attempting to pass the device through to his bladder was one of my hard limits, lol. I had him pee afterward to help bring back the acid balance and wash out the lube. I didn't use gloves, but my hands touched only the ring and ball tip, not the rod part. We read up on it, watched many videos of guys using these and talked with several people into this before starting down this path ourselves; what made me loosen up a little was seeing guys just insert this while taking a shower. (I'm a germ freak, almost paranoid about germs, but after a while I relaxed enough, with familiarity, to be comfortable with doing this right after he had a shower.) bo has just had implant surgery over his ED and I am very leery to resume using sounds anytime soon.

This is just my/our personal experience. I hope nobody will decide to be more carefree about germs just because of anything I've posted.

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RE: Urethral Sounds - 5/15/2013 4:06:12 AM

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quote:

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The take-away is that 'sterile' is a goal, not a realistic possibility. Just the air in non-sterile environment surgical theaters in seconds allow thousands if not more bacteria and other 'life forms' to land on any exposed surface. Scrub in at a real surgery takes longer than many spend playing with sounds. Every step between the autoclave and the urethra has risks. Sterile tissue at the mouth of the urethra is not possible if the tissue is to survive. RACK!
And get thee to thy physician at the FIRST sign of a UTI. And upon arriving fully disclose the history of the involved anatomy. Cowboying up and 'walking it off' is a fool's errand.

Agree - there is no such thing as a sterile scrub. What there is is reducing the bioburden - ie bacteria count - on the skin. And that means cleaning with something that kills bacteria. It also means a certain amount of scrubbing, so friction can do its part.

I am so not a germ-a-phobe ............. but when it comes to introducing bacteria INTO the body, i get titchy. Overkill is better than under.
and so agree - don't wait until you are in agony and have a rip roaring kidney AND bladder infection. If it hurts to pee, see your doctor!

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