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DomSpace? - 5/14/2013 3:01:41 PM

Charles6682

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After reading the "subspace" thread,I was curious as to how Dom/mes experience "DomSpace"?The term "SubSpace" gets used a lot and its a very real place to be.The question I have is what exactly is it that brings a Dom into "DomSpace"?I know the answers will vary,of course.Thank you.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/14/2013 3:56:00 PM

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In My opinion, the answer doesn't really vary. Here's your answer:

Endorphins.

That's the catch all answer for what happens in the brain. It's this really fascinating chemical release that gets electrically charged impulses sent to what we think are the pleasure receptors in our grey matter.

What happens in the brain for a top isn't necessarily much different than what it is for bottoms. It just comes about for a different reason. Bottoms can be (but not necessarily) letting the body and the brain take it's natural course in processing pain. That's adrenaline that triggers the chemical release in the head.

Tops can get to this same reaction for different reasons. One would be a person exerting themselves from play. They have, physically, exerted themselves, and the body is reacting the same way. Sometimes, this is compared to what is commonly known as runner's high. There are actually scientific studies on how this works. Wear the body out, chemicals start flowing and that includes neurons in the head.

But, it's not even just that. The endorphin flow can happen without physical exertion. I'm not "working out" when I do needle play, but the endorphins still fire off and hit those pleasure centers and create "space". I have My own personal theories about this being related to the top sensing the pheromones from the bottom and triggering the top's own chemical release. Ever hear the expression that a person can "smell" fear? Well, it's kind of the same thing.

What can get Me there? All kinds of stuff. I consider Myself what I call 'endorphin blessed'. I can get there from all kinds of play. If I'm in the right frame of mind, I can get there just by walking into the play party and sense it from other people. I can get there by Myself just planning or thinking about scenes. Not to go all Shirley McClain on anybody, but it doesn't just have to be something you touch or something that you do.

Speaking of which, this isn't just stuff I've dreamed up in My head. I'm one of those folks who has eyes that change color and dialate from endorphin rush.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/14/2013 6:14:48 PM

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Thank you for your input,LadyPact.Endorphins,that is the keyword.I know what you mean by "runners high",as I've felt that before.The "Pleasure Center" in the brain.Thats also how addicts feel when they get their "fix".Of course,addiction can come in many forms.I hope being in "sub space" is a good addiction.It really is a "natural high".So whether its "subspace","dom/top space",I guess its safe to assume the end result is the same.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/14/2013 6:57:06 PM

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Master goes through domspace as he has explained a few times here. It's pretty much the same thing I go through with subspace but just on the other side of the kneel.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/14/2013 9:54:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Charles6682

After reading the "subspace" thread,I was curious as to how Dom/mes experience "DomSpace"?

I think what causes Dommespace is endorphins and endorphin rush. Which is just what Dommespace feels like to me, a rush. I get it from Topping someone, it's like it feeds off the energy exchange between my bottom and myself. The more the bottom is into the activity, the more I am too, and it feels like an energy rush to me.

I used to be a submissive so I can say that my subspace felt more floaty and spacey, whereas my Dommespace I get now feels like a buzzy energy rush.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/14/2013 9:57:19 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Charles6682

After reading the "subspace" thread,I was curious as to how Dom/mes experience "DomSpace"?The term "SubSpace" gets used a lot and its a very real place to be.The question I have is what exactly is it that brings a Dom into "DomSpace"?I know the answers will vary,of course.Thank you.

Adrenaline. Endorphins hit the pleasure center while adrenaline is an energy kick-starter.

When I top, it's adrenaline and I get giddy - Top Space or Dom Space

When I bottom, it's endorphins and I get floaty. Sub Space or Bottom Space.

For me, two different animals arrived at in entirely different ways.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/14/2013 10:09:02 PM

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In other news: The Sun rises in the East* and chicken eggs are yummy**.

I think the question is why or how do those endorphins kick in?

That is a much harder question to answer.

*This is relative to your own position on the planet.
** Assuming that the rooster isn't trying to rip your throat out.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/15/2013 11:08:48 AM

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The Zen of Doing. Being perfectly in the moment and totally alive. Not having to think about what comes next as you just know it, like breathing.

I get the same rush Rock Climbing or Sword Fighting.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/15/2013 12:29:52 PM

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Interesting, . i have rarely felt anything like it outside of "play". the closest i have come is (maybe during a rescue), or while performing CPR, where i have complete focus.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/15/2013 2:46:05 PM

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I used to be a submissive so I can say that my subspace felt more floaty and spacey, whereas my Dommespace I get now feels like a buzzy energy rush.

NBMG

I'm glad you wrote this. I was trying to picture someone with a whip that became as spacey as I can get. Didn't seem quite right...

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/15/2013 3:10:05 PM

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~FRing it~

Yep, NBMG...that's pretty much what it's like for me too. I am fortunate to have a partner in crime I am able to switch with. I get the rush from both, but its a floaty dreamy subspace one and its an amped up energy filled buzzy domspace. Total night and day difference, even though its all from the same physiological response my body gives.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/15/2013 3:27:59 PM

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I have only had one relationship in BDSM, in which I identified as a sub. I would feel floaty, in a dream like state, almost unable to bring myself to reality for awhile. deep within myself, unable to focus on anything else for a few hours. I had to sleep to get back to where I could focus on other things. and if I couldn't sleep it just had to wear off, and It would be the next day until I felt NORMAL.
I felt powerless, humbled and child like.
In my everyday life I am more dominant in personality. When I get to that place of Domspace, which I consider a place of power. I actually feel more charged, more energetic, more focused on all I do after. Definitely more in control. Nothing child like about it.

Both good to experience, happy to have had the sub space experience, but overall I like the latter better. I feel more of a " damn I can do anything" type feeling, while the first felt more helpless. NOt a very comfortable position for me.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/15/2013 4:43:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Charles6682

Thank you for your input,LadyPact.Endorphins,that is the keyword.I know what you mean by "runners high",as I've felt that before.The "Pleasure Center" in the brain.Thats also how addicts feel when they get their "fix".Of course,addiction can come in many forms.I hope being in "sub space" is a good addiction.It really is a "natural high".So whether its "subspace","dom/top space",I guess its safe to assume the end result is the same.

At one time, subspace was not a good addiction for me. It came to a point where I was begging and wanting to be put in subspace constantly. I always wanted to play 24/7 just to stay in that space. When I wasn't in subspace, I felt like a person with a drug addiction-I couldn't focus, I had the jitters, I craved it all the time and I just felt like I was going through drug withdrawal.

So no, subspace isn't always a good addiction.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/15/2013 6:26:38 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

quote:

ORIGINAL: Charles6682

Thank you for your input,LadyPact.Endorphins,that is the keyword.I know what you mean by "runners high",as I've felt that before.The "Pleasure Center" in the brain.Thats also how addicts feel when they get their "fix".Of course,addiction can come in many forms.I hope being in "sub space" is a good addiction.It really is a "natural high".So whether its "subspace","dom/top space",I guess its safe to assume the end result is the same.

At one time, subspace was not a good addiction for me. It came to a point where I was begging and wanting to be put in subspace constantly. I always wanted to play 24/7 just to stay in that space. When I wasn't in subspace, I felt like a person with a drug addiction-I couldn't focus, I had the jitters, I craved it all the time and I just felt like I was going through drug withdrawal.

So no, subspace isn't always a good addiction.

*Snickers*
Where did that chick go? And what's her digits?

For me, domspace, despite what the mouse may think, isn't at all like what she goes through.
I don't get all slo motion rubber legged or any of that nonsense. Instead, what happens is that I hyperfocus in play, locking in until everything is lost but the moment I'm in and seeing the next moves to come. It's kinda akin to surfing or when I do really extreme skiing-I'm almost lost deep within a meditative trance of experiencing the now and only the now.
Coming up, letting go of that, losing the sharply delineated, brightly colored world, having drab reality crash in-yeah, that's a drag.
When I was younger I was still battling with the conflict of being a sadist, so the crash back into earth combined with feelings of guilt over what I had done-yeah, they made for some serious tailspins post hard interaction.
As I reached an accord with myself over my actions, the real hard crash diminished. Now, it's just the disenchantment of coming back to dreary reality.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/15/2013 6:50:32 PM

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That's what I meant. It's the opposite side of the kneel. I get all zoned out while you zone in. But it's still all the chemicals that flow through the body that causes it, just like it would if you were skiing or surfing or in my case, meditating or praying.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/15/2013 6:55:12 PM

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I still enjoy both sub space as well as the Dom High. I also like the others have a different reaction based on what i am doing. In sub space- for me its like floating and being totally free but partially focused on Him and just in the moment. Its in this moment for the time my brain is not running on its internal hamster wheel and gives me some peace.But as a Domme I become more focused on all the little details and signals my bottom is throwing out to me. I be come charged and after play that energy stays with me for a good bit. Yes the down side kinda sucks ( when I am bottoming) for a little while. But I have also had both energy rushes hit me back to back almost at the same time, and lets say that is just weird. I happened after the first extremely big event i had ever gone to and I had both sides of me screaming ME me I want to Play- but kept both sides in check as I did not feel comfortable to play in public at that point with both wanting to play. But the drop that happened after was actually my worse one.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/15/2013 10:40:16 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

*Snickers*
Where did that chick go? And what's her digits?

For me, domspace, despite what the mouse may think, isn't at all like what she goes through.
I don't get all slo motion rubber legged or any of that nonsense. Instead, what happens is that I hyperfocus in play, locking in until everything is lost but the moment I'm in and seeing the next moves to come. It's kinda akin to surfing or when I do really extreme skiing-I'm almost lost deep within a meditative trance of experiencing the now and only the now.
Coming up, letting go of that, losing the sharply delineated, brightly colored world, having drab reality crash in-yeah, that's a drag.
When I was younger I was still battling with the conflict of being a sadist, so the crash back into earth combined with feelings of guilt over what I had done-yeah, they made for some serious tailspins post hard interaction.
As I reached an accord with myself over my actions, the real hard crash diminished. Now, it's just the disenchantment of coming back to dreary reality.

That moment. That one moment. Just like we can never experience sub-space, they can never experience that one moment when a girl just gives herself to you.

In a former life I tried cocaine. Coke isn't even close to that one moment. Not even remotely close.

You know what is awesome about that one moment? It can last forever because she continually submits to you.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/15/2013 11:41:58 PM

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In Domme space, I feel both an adrenalin rush at the beginning, and endorphins flowing throughout... Making me feel both serious, at times severe, but also focused and dreamily happy.
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RE: DomSpace? - 5/15/2013 11:53:40 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

quote:

ORIGINAL: Charles6682

After reading the "subspace" thread,I was curious as to how Dom/mes experience "DomSpace"?The term "SubSpace" gets used a lot and its a very real place to be.The question I have is what exactly is it that brings a Dom into "DomSpace"?I know the answers will vary,of course.Thank you.

Adrenaline. Endorphins hit the pleasure center while adrenaline is an energy kick-starter.

When I top, it's adrenaline and I get giddy - Top Space or Dom Space

When I bottom, it's endorphins and I get floaty. Sub Space or Bottom Space.

For me, two different animals arrived at in entirely different ways.

MMV

I DEFINITELY get an adrenaline "high"...it suddenly feels like every fiber of every muscles is **ALIVE!** and I have far more exuberant energy to move. My skin heats up, and even My airways seem to dialate, making even breathing more efficient and CLEAR(and a coooool sort of "mentholyptus" feeling to My lungs), My entire body becomes more efficient and energized, sort of like epinephrin effects...when I reach the top I feel like I could flip a freaking car over, wrestle a bear, etc. It's not sexual...more of a high-octane WEEEEEEEEEE feeling for Me, like driving really fast and hitting a dip in the road where you achieve a split second of zero G.
Definitely the opposite of endorphins, which give you a floaty trance-like feeling.
I had a website saved somewhere that explained the effects of Adrenaline and Endorphines, and how some people prefered one effect over the other. I'm definitely an adrenaline junky.

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RE: DomSpace? - 5/16/2013 10:38:37 AM

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So,from the thread so far,Dommes get a super energy buzz,while subs get the whole "sleepy in dreamworld high"(which is what I experience) and I love being in that place".Someone said they felt powerless,humble and childlike in "subspace".Thats exactly how I feel in "subspace",except that I actually enjoy being in that state.

I can see how this could become an addiction,just like anything else.Everything in moderation.But perhaps some peoples desire to be 24/7 is what they desire.In time,I would like that to be my goal.But one thing at a time.TOo much of anything can't always be a good thing,even as something as amazing as being in "subspace".

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