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Politesub53 -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/19/2013 5:14:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

"Bogus WMDs?". Who said? What source says unequivocally there were never any WMD's in Iraq? Then what happened to the nerve gas supplies from which the Iraqi Air Force dropped nerve gas bombs on more than one northern Iraqi Kurdish Villages? They certainly had them before Bush attacked since this was well documented by the UN. So, given Iraq did use nerve gas on their own population and this is a documented fact and since nerve gas is a WMD then what did they do with those supplies of WMD? The same thing they did with their Air Force, did you know they sent all of their Air Force to Iran so Bush could not destroy them? So, clearly "bogus" is a parroted MSNBC talking point rather than a valid description of Iraq's WMDs since clearly Iraq used WMD before Bush's attack to kill Kurds in Northern Iraq. So, if Iraq did have WMDs (unless of course they used them up on their attacks on their own Northern Iraqi population, men, women and children photographed dying in droves within those villages, then how come we never found them...glad you asked....


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WMDs 'smuggled into Syria'(Australia News)
The Australian ^ | Jan. 10, 2004 | Correspondends in Washington, DC

Posted on Friday, January 9, 2004 4:53:45 PM by FairOpinion

THE White House said today it lacked "hard evidence" to back a Syrian dissident's claim that Iraqi chemical and biological arms were smuggled into Syria before the US-led March invasion.

"I want to be very clear: We don't, at this point, have any indications that I would consider credible and firm that that has taken place. But we will tie down every lead," said national security adviser Condoleezza Rice.





Bush himself said none were found. Rice states there is no credible evidence of the above claim. The CIA stated there were no weapons of WMD after its search for them. Ifs buts and maybes may satisfy the neocons but it wont do for the rest of us.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/oct/07/usa.iraq1




thompsonx -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/19/2013 5:18:56 PM)

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It's clear since you are here I am finished.


I thought the "finished" was the result of the insipid moronic childish bullshit posted causing such embarrasment.

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I give up.


"A man's got to know his limitations"




farglebargle -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/19/2013 5:28:52 PM)

I. On October 7, 2002, in Cincinnati, Ohio, BUSH made numerous deliberately misleading statements to the nation, including stating that in comparison to Iran and North Korea, Iraq posed a uniquely serious threat, which statement BUSH well knew was false and fraudulent in that it omitted to state the material fact that a State Department representative had been informed just three days previously that North Korea had actually already produced nuclear weapons. BUSH continued to conceal this information until after Congress passed the Authorization to Use Military Force against Iraq.


M. On March 18, 2003, BUSH sent a letter to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President Pro Tempore of the Senate which asserted that further reliance on diplomatic and peaceful means alone would not either: (1) adequately protect United States national security against the "continuing threat posed by Iraq" or (2) likely lead to enforcement of all relevant UN Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq, which statement was made without reasonable basis and with reckless indifference to the truth in that, as BUSH well knew, the U.S. intelligence community had never reported that Iraq posed an urgent threat to the United States and there was no evidence whatsoever to prove that Iraq had either the means or intent to attack the U.S. directly or indirectly. The statement was also false because, as BUSH well knew, the UN weapons inspectors had not found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and wanted to continue the inspection process because it was working well.


( Those are what we call OVERT CRIMINAL ACTS, folks.... )




thompsonx -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/19/2013 5:36:53 PM)

I believe that is nominally called "preaching to the choir"




DomKen -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/19/2013 5:38:23 PM)

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We were attacked during Bush's watch. There were numerous domstic terror attacks udring his administration and Al Qaeda was involved in killing hundreds of US servicemen in both Iraq and Afghanistan as well as being suspected in some of the many attacks on our Embassy's which in case you don't know are US soil just as much as your backyard.


Like Benghazi? The difference is those attacks on our embassies were actual riots and were repelled by Marines stationed there and brought there and nobody from the embassies were horribly murdered while our spy drone watched silently overhead. Saying our servicemen were killed in war zones is somehow just like an attack on our embassy in Benghazi is an unfortunate stretch.

Oh yes they were horribly murdered during those attacks. And no mostly it wasn't Marines guarding those facilities. Bush and his cronies are the ones who shifted to private security for our diplomatic compounds.
The Karachi Pakistan consulate was attacked twice with fatalities both times.




DomKen -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/19/2013 5:40:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arturas


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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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Reagan also got 270 marines killed in Lebanon


How?

Did not allow the gate guards to carry their weapons loaded for a start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing



Nice try. This was a multinational peace keeping force and not something Reagan cooked up. It was a UN force. Here is the memorial for those men and women.
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The Beirut Barracks Memorial honors the 241 American servicemen who were killed in the October 23, 1983 bombing of American Marines barracks in Beirut, Lebanon. The bombing occurred during the Lebanese Civil War, when two truck bombs, detonated by suicide bombers, struck separate buildings housing United States and French military members of the Multinational Force in Lebanon killing a total of 299 American and French servicemen. The memorial is located in section 59.


US soldiers were under US command and the rules of engagement were from the Reagan administration. US forces were not wearing blue helmets, always worn by troops in a UN force.




DomKen -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/19/2013 5:42:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arturas


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ORIGINAL: Arturas

"Bogus WMDs?". Who said? What source says unequivocally there were never any WMD's in Iraq? Then what happened to the nerve gas supplies from which the Iraqi Air Force dropped nerve gas bombs on more than one northern Iraqi Kurdish Villages?

They were all destroyed in the aftermath of the first gulf war as was required by the peace agrrement. No WMD's were ever found and no facilities to produce or store them were found to have been in operation since the mid 90's.

BTW they sent their aircraft to Iran during the first gulf war and never got them back (Iran kept them). They had almost no fixed wing combat aircraft when W sent the troops in. I hope you weren't trying to obfuscate things by conflating the two Bush's.



No. I was around for both wars. The point is the pattern is the same, you send what you cannot allow to fall into American hands to your neighbors, the planes to Iraq and the WMDs in the second war to Syria.


So, quit dancing and I ask you, exactly what happed to the nerve gas, the WMD, that Saddam used on his own population?

No. there was never any evidence that Iraq sent anything to Syria, the two Ba'ath parties despised each other so it was unlikely Saddam would have sent anything to Syria. The weapons inspectors had supervised the destruction of WMD after the first war and no evidence ever emerged showing any thing had survived to be sent anywhere.




Owner59 -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/19/2013 5:47:19 PM)

Isn`t this pretty much the way the republicans tricked us into invading Iraq?


Manufactured evidence along with the use of a dirty journalist working with the conspirators?


In 2011 it was Collen Powell and talcum powder ,with Judith Miller working with dickcheney to feed false intel into the news stream.


Today,it`s republican leaders altering WH emails and using "journalists" to pass them off as authentic.









thompsonx -> RE: Republicans Altered Benghazi Emails, CBS News Report Claims (5/20/2013 7:51:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59

Isn`t this pretty much the way the republicans tricked us into invading Iraq?


Manufactured evidence along with the use of a dirty journalist working with the conspirators?


In 2011 it was Collen Powell and talcum powder ,with Judith Miller working with dickcheney to feed false intel into the news stream.


Today,it`s republican leaders altering WH emails and using "journalists" to pass them off as authentic.









There is no moral high ground.
A demopub "tricked" us into ww2. A "demopub tricked" us into korea.A "republicrat" tricked us into ww1. A republicrat "tricked" us nto the sandbox




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