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kalikshama -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/21/2013 1:27:51 PM)
quote: So where are these guys outside prison??? Craiglist

Focus50 -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/21/2013 3:32:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: androticus I'd be interested in hearing from some basically straight Dom Masters--don't you sometimes get the urge to satisfy your primal alpha male urges by subjugating another male and forcing him to do your bidding? As a straight Dom, no, I'm not interested in any form of intimate or sexual activity with another male. Nor am I interested in subjugating any female, including my own fem/sub. And I don't associate "alpha male" with being a Dom. By definition, an alpha requires an entourage in order to be top dog. I own my girl who willingly submits, even when I'm in the mood to force her, anyway. And her being a female ta boot, I don't need your bush-lawyerisms to define "straight". quote: And how much "alpha" does it actually take, really, to tie up a weak little 97 lb female subbie? Don't you sometimes crave some prey that can fight back? (<-- ok, I realize I'm probably going to hell, on a flaming parachute, for those last 2... ;) ;) Seems like a better question for the Ted Bundy's of the world. Me, I'm as much a sociopath as I am an alpha male - maybe a few percentage points. But I am all straight and all Dom. Since you can't get any definitions right, have you considered that you might actually enjoy prison life? Focus.

MasterCaneman -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/21/2013 9:07:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: androticus From what I've been told, the practice of nominally straight guys making another guy their bitch boy in prison is actually real. I'd be interested in hearing from some basically straight Dom Masters--don't you sometimes get the urge to satisfy your primal alpha male urges by subjugating another male and forcing him to do your bidding? And how much "alpha" does it actually take, really, to tie up a weak little 97 lb female subbie? Don't you sometimes crave some prey that can fight back? (<-- ok, I realize I'm probably going to hell, on a flaming parachute, for those last 2... ;) ;) androticus Okay, I used to dominate straight guys all the time. I was a bouncer at a number of biker and redneck bars. I know all about forcing other men to do my bidding-which meant to get the hell off the property and stay off. I have at my disposal any number of holds, blocks, and insanely painful tricks to garner compliance from all but the most psychotic of he-man males. And for the record, I know of a couple 97 pound ladies that can be pretty dangerous if they wish to be. Never assume anything by a person's gender or build-dynamite does come in small packages. That applies to males fitting that description as well. The smaller guys can be just as hard to eject as the big bruisers, and usually a lot faster too. Enjoy the ride down [:)]

theRose4U -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/22/2013 8:30:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders FR What's the name of that one poster that started a few threads recently about how he's totally straight but he likes to dominate men? He didn't sound like he had any sort of regard for the people he played with though, so I'm not sure he's a good example. OP - I know you'd never consider sleeping with a woman, but I do think there is a sub-section of men who are flexible enough about their sexuality that they will accept a blowjob from another male when nothing else is available, but not in other circumstances. In which case I don't think you're going to have much luck outside that environment. Have you considered this is a sock puppet for same guy? Still needing attention with the same tired line of BS to pwoove what a weel twue dom da dum dum he is?

FelineRanger -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/22/2013 9:15:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: androticus From what I've been told, the practice of nominally straight guys making another guy their bitch boy in prison is actually real. So where are these guys outside prison??? And no, I just don't buy this cliche that "oh, they turn 'gay' in prison because there are no women" -- that seems like total rationalizing B.S. to me! As a gay male, I've often gone long periods without male companionship and I'm surrounded by women, but that didn't make me turn straight or want to use women! androticus You badly misunderstand what goes on in prison. The attacks and rapes that occur in prison are not play in the BDSM sense of the word and there is no consent involved at all. Let me repeat that. There is no consent involved at all. Prison life is basically law of the jungle. Do not mistake the fantasies on film for the real thing.

androticus -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/22/2013 10:08:17 PM)
Thanks for all the comments! I think the people who paint "straight" as being an absolute thing might be making an accurate claim about themselves, but in my experience (mostly various quite straight male friends I've had...) -- many people have some mixture of interest, even if infrequent for only very select partners. I've heard that paradoxically, it can actually be easier to engage straight(ish) guys in latin countries, because they view it far more as an isolated act, not something that makes them an X. I sometimes think maybe the U.S./Canada English culture is kinda repressed... ;)

LafayetteLady -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/23/2013 1:04:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: androticus Thanks for all the comments! I think the people who paint "straight" as being an absolute thing might be making an accurate claim about themselves, but in my experience (mostly various quite straight male friends I've had...) -- many people have some mixture of interest, even if infrequent for only very select partners. I've heard that paradoxically, it can actually be easier to engage straight(ish) guys in latin countries, because they view it far more as an isolated act, not something that makes them an X. I sometimes think maybe the U.S./Canada English culture is kinda repressed... ;) It doesn't matter if it is just a "select few" or an infrequent event. If you have sex with the same gender and the opposite gender you are bisexual. Just like you aren't homosexual sometimes, heterosexuals are straight all the time. It IS an absolute. As for the sexual activities that happen in prison, it is a long studied phenomenon of how definitively straight men engage willingly in homosexual activities in prison. The activities are isolated to their prison sentence and when not incarcerated, they have zero interest in those activities. Feel free to google it.

kalikshama -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/23/2013 10:12:28 AM)
quote: I've heard that paradoxically, it can actually be easier to engage straight(ish) guys in latin countries, because they view it far more as an isolated act, not something that makes them an X. What I've heard about Latin American is that the guy doing the penetrating is not considered to be engaging in a homosexual act: up through WWII, American culture usually labeled men "gay" only if they sought to be penetrated. As in many areas of Latin America today, men could routinely seek sex with other men without any stigma as long as they (claimed to) exclusively take the "masculine," penetrative role. Sexual identity was defined by your gender performance and not by the sex of your partner.

FrostedFlake -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/23/2013 11:36:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: androticus Thanks for all the comments! I think the people who paint "straight" as being an absolute thing might be making an accurate claim about themselves, but in my experience (mostly various quite straight male friends I've had...) -- many people have some mixture of interest, even if infrequent for only very select partners. I've heard that paradoxically, it can actually be easier to engage straight(ish) guys in latin countries, because they view it far more as an isolated act, not something that makes them an X. I sometimes think maybe the U.S./Canada English culture is kinda repressed... ;) In my experience, a few gay men cannot understand that straight men are NOT simply waiting for the right guy to ask.

Focus50 -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/23/2013 3:03:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady quote: ORIGINAL: androticus Thanks for all the comments! I think the people who paint "straight" as being an absolute thing might be making an accurate claim about themselves, but in my experience (mostly various quite straight male friends I've had...) -- many people have some mixture of interest, even if infrequent for only very select partners. I've heard that paradoxically, it can actually be easier to engage straight(ish) guys in latin countries, because they view it far more as an isolated act, not something that makes them an X. I sometimes think maybe the U.S./Canada English culture is kinda repressed... ;) It doesn't matter if it is just a "select few" or an infrequent event. If you have sex with the same gender and the opposite gender you are bisexual. Just like you aren't homosexual sometimes, heterosexuals are straight all the time. It IS an absolute. As for the sexual activities that happen in prison, it is a long studied phenomenon of how definitively straight men engage willingly in homosexual activities in prison. The activities are isolated to their prison sentence and when not incarcerated, they have zero interest in those activities. Feel free to google it. And to paraphrase what Tony Soprano told his shrink (re homosexuality and the mob): "Prison's different; you get a pass there; there's no fuckin' women!" Focus.

Focus50 -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/23/2013 3:17:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama quote: I've heard that paradoxically, it can actually be easier to engage straight(ish) guys in latin countries, because they view it far more as an isolated act, not something that makes them an X. What I've heard about Latin American is that the guy doing the penetrating is not considered to be engaging in a homosexual act: Up through WWII, American culture usually labeled men "gay" only if they sought to be penetrated. As in many areas of Latin America today, men could routinely seek sex with other men without any stigma as long as they (claimed to) exclusively take the "masculine," penetrative role. Sexual identity was defined by your gender performance and not by the sex of your partner. That's an interesting perspective - that "gay" (to use a baseball analogy) is qualified only as "catching", rather than "pitching". Lol, I must be STRAIGHT straight, cos the prospect of sticking it in or near any man part is NO way to get it up to begin with.... I mean, ICK! Focus.

kalikshama -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/23/2013 4:26:04 PM)
That's not just a baseball analogy [;)]

MstSebastian -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (5/30/2013 10:16:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: androticus From what I've been told, the practice of nominally straight guys making another guy their bitch boy in prison is actually real. So where are these guys outside prison??? And no, I just don't buy this cliche that "oh, they turn 'gay' in prison because there are no women" -- that seems like total rationalizing B.S. to me! As a gay male, I've often gone long periods without male companionship and I'm surrounded by women, but that didn't make me turn straight or want to use women! I'd be interested in hearing from some basically straight Dom Masters--don't you sometimes get the urge to satisfy your primal alpha male urges by subjugating another male and forcing him to do your bidding? And how much "alpha" does it actually take, really, to tie up a weak little 97 lb female subbie? Don't you sometimes crave some prey that can fight back? (<-- ok, I realize I'm probably going to hell, on a flaming parachute, for those last 2... ;) ;) androticus Oh for crying out loud! As a gay Dom, I have to say that posts like this just make me ashamed of some people in the gay community. As others have very clearly asked, what part of "straight" do you not understand? It seems, to me, that you have a fetish for being used by someone who is not sexually attracted to you. I don't get that, but to each their own. In addition, you answered your own question. You stated that you have gone a long time without male companionship and had no desire to turn to women. So why, for the love of all things holy, do you expect it to be different for straight men? Do you think there are straight guys who are going to jump at the chance to dominate you when, as you said, they have no desire for men? You've set up some seriously awkward trains of thought here. If you want to be dominated by a man, find a gay man. If a straight man says he will dominate you and sexually use you, then chances are that he isn't straight. Oh, and as for the prison thing, you have it wrong. Male-on-male sex in prisons is a lot like rape on the streets. It has little to nothing, most of the time, to do with sex. It is about power and subjugation. When you are in an environment, like prison, where your status among your peers is determined by physical fortitude and toughness, subjugating the weak is the only chance to prove your "Alpha male" status...to use your terminology. Once on the streets, men with the desire to prove their power don't have to rely on sexually subjugating weaker men, as it is no longer their only option like it is in prison. Your question is akin to saying "why don't people who always order steak at a steak house not order it at places that serve chicken too?" The answer? Because when your only option IS steak, you have steak. When you can have chicken or steak, and you naturally prefer chicken over steak, then you go for the chicken.

WCossey -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (6/14/2013 1:17:11 AM)
I have to agree with DarkSteven here. Haven't tryed it, not interested in trying it. If you are wanting to find a male dom, I recommend you look for a gay male dom.

Kana -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (6/14/2013 2:53:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: androticus From what I've been told, the practice of nominally straight guys making another guy their bitch boy in prison is actually real. Uhhh, dude. There's a word for what your talking about and it's not BDSM. It's rape. quote: I'd be interested in hearing from some basically straight Dom Masters--don't you sometimes get the urge to satisfy your primal alpha male urges by subjugating another male and forcing him to do your bidding? Nope. Not even a little. Among many reasons is the minor fact that I spent time in prison and the guys the next cell over turned fresh fish out almost every night. Yeah, that was fun,night after night trying to go to sleep while some poor soul ten feet away screams what's left of his spirit into a sock stuffed in his mouth and the slapping of flesh on flesh. And the soul wracking sobbing afterwards. Wonder why I see absolutely zilch "'alpha" about this? quote: And how much "alpha" does it actually take, really, to tie up a weak little 97 lb female subbie? None. but it takes artistry to make her beg you to do it :-) quote: Don't you sometimes crave some prey that can fight back? Nope. Maybe as a kid. Now, I'm too old for that shit. I'm for gals who submit, serve, and scream. The three S's. What more could one need?

shiftyw -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (6/14/2013 3:16:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kana quote: ORIGINAL: androticus From what I've been told, the practice of nominally straight guys making another guy their bitch boy in prison is actually real. Uhhh, dude. There's a word for what your talking about and it's not BDSM. It's rape. This is exactly what I was thinking...

katts3 -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (6/14/2013 3:24:40 PM)
A while back I got to spend a few months in the crossbar hotel thanks to big brother and to see theses big strong guys become bitches of these much smaller guys was sicking,Many of those serving as bitches were married with families..I guess its different stroks for different folks..I have a dom friend thats a Master and his pretty little wife has enticed him into sucking subs cock,there it is!! the world has gone to hell in a hand basket..B

Focus50 -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (6/14/2013 3:45:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kana quote: ORIGINAL: androticus And how much "alpha" does it actually take, really, to tie up a weak little 97 lb female subbie? None. but it takes artistry to make her beg you to do it :-) Lol. And just when this thread was heading necro.... Focus.

sexyred1 -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (6/14/2013 3:53:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MstSebastian quote: ORIGINAL: androticus From what I've been told, the practice of nominally straight guys making another guy their bitch boy in prison is actually real. So where are these guys outside prison??? And no, I just don't buy this cliche that "oh, they turn 'gay' in prison because there are no women" -- that seems like total rationalizing B.S. to me! As a gay male, I've often gone long periods without male companionship and I'm surrounded by women, but that didn't make me turn straight or want to use women! I'd be interested in hearing from some basically straight Dom Masters--don't you sometimes get the urge to satisfy your primal alpha male urges by subjugating another male and forcing him to do your bidding? And how much "alpha" does it actually take, really, to tie up a weak little 97 lb female subbie? Don't you sometimes crave some prey that can fight back? (<-- ok, I realize I'm probably going to hell, on a flaming parachute, for those last 2... ;) ;) androticus Oh for crying out loud! As a gay Dom, I have to say that posts like this just make me ashamed of some people in the gay community. As others have very clearly asked, what part of "straight" do you not understand? It seems, to me, that you have a fetish for being used by someone who is not sexually attracted to you. I don't get that, but to each their own. In addition, you answered your own question. You stated that you have gone a long time without male companionship and had no desire to turn to women. So why, for the love of all things holy, do you expect it to be different for straight men? Do you think there are straight guys who are going to jump at the chance to dominate you when, as you said, they have no desire for men? You've set up some seriously awkward trains of thought here. If you want to be dominated by a man, find a gay man. If a straight man says he will dominate you and sexually use you, then chances are that he isn't straight. Oh, and as for the prison thing, you have it wrong. Male-on-male sex in prisons is a lot like rape on the streets. It has little to nothing, most of the time, to do with sex. It is about power and subjugation. When you are in an environment, like prison, where your status among your peers is determined by physical fortitude and toughness, subjugating the weak is the only chance to prove your "Alpha male" status...to use your terminology. Once on the streets, men with the desire to prove their power don't have to rely on sexually subjugating weaker men, as it is no longer their only option like it is in prison. Your question is akin to saying "why don't people who always order steak at a steak house not order it at places that serve chicken too?" The answer? Because when your only option IS steak, you have steak. When you can have chicken or steak, and you naturally prefer chicken over steak, then you go for the chicken. Bingo! Thank goodness we have people who can explain the reality of things to people who only deal in fantasy.

Aswad -> RE: Where are the str8 male-on-male Doms outside* prison?* (6/16/2013 9:45:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: graceadieu I really doubt that even those "prison gay" guys are really, actually, 100% straight. I think probably they're bi and just generally go for women when available. Or there's a shortage of vacuum cleaners in prison... IWYW, — Aswad.

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