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FatDomDaddy -> Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/21/2013 3:26:11 PM)

It's breaking all over right now... no need to post a link to the more than 50 sites that popped up on a google search.

This one is not going away anytime soon.




thompsonx -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/21/2013 4:42:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

It's breaking all over right now... no need to post a link to the more than 50 sites that popped up on a google search.

This one is not going away anytime soon.


Constitutional rights have been around for a while...I would expect that they will stay around for a while longer.




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/21/2013 5:51:14 PM)

I agree but her evocation of the 5th does little to put this matter to bed.




RottenJohnny -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/21/2013 6:48:55 PM)

The LA Times article about this mentioned that she had discovered that people under her had been focusing on Tea Party and "Patriot" groups in 2011 and that she had made changes. If accurate then she really shouldn't have anything to hide. She may simply be protecting herself until a full investigation of everyone else is complete. Nevertheless, it is an interesting development. I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes.




DomKen -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/21/2013 8:14:36 PM)

I'm sure it concerned her lawyer when Boehner asked "who's going to jail?" in relation to this.




Owner59 -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/21/2013 8:44:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

It's breaking all over right now... no need to post a link to the more than 50 sites that popped up on a google search.

This one is not going away anytime soon.


You post this as if it`s significant.




Powergamz1 -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/21/2013 8:48:18 PM)

That is interesting.




FelineRanger -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/21/2013 9:05:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Constitutional rights have been around for a while...I would expect that they will stay around for a while longer.



The few that are left after the passage of the ironically named Patriot Act, you mean.




MrRodgers -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/22/2013 3:16:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

I'm sure it concerned her lawyer when Boehner asked "who's going to jail?" in relation to this.

quote:

Lois Lerner

Well then all Obama needs to do is what any good repub president would do...pardon her now.




Lucylastic -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/22/2013 3:40:19 AM)

LMAO I can see the coronaries right now...




farglebargle -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/22/2013 4:17:40 AM)

There NO MATTER TO PUT TO BED.

The IRS checked out 70 conservative groups out of 300 groups applying. That's 1/3. There's no issue here other than the crazy birthers just won't shut the fuck up about how much they hate Obama.

That and since they're white, if you treat them like everyone else, their feelings are hurt that they're not special.

See also: Christians. Every President has been Christian. But they complain still how they're oppressed.




MasterCaneman -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/22/2013 8:37:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

I'm sure it concerned her lawyer when Boehner asked "who's going to jail?" in relation to this.

quote:

Lois Lerner

Well then all Obama needs to do is what any good repub president would do...pardon her now.

Every President and Governor has made and will make politically-motivated pardons, irregardless of the letter behind their name. Does Marc Rich ring a bell? Oh yeah, can't mention that, because Bill's a god and it might make a potential run by Hillary difficult.




TheHeretic -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/22/2013 5:53:19 PM)

The interesting twist was her decision to make an opening statement about her innocence of any wrongdoing, before invoking her 5th Amendment rights, and refusing to answer any questions. I don't see where she waived her rights by doing that, but the appearance she made seemed very contemptful, both of Congress, and the American people. I don't think that is going to play very well.




Owner59 -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/22/2013 6:05:32 PM)

"contemptful of Congress"



That`s like hypocrites being upset about hypocrisy.....


That`s like rapists being upset about rape.....


That`s like quacks being upset about malpractice....


That`s like adulterers getting pissed about cheating....


That`s like...well...you get the drift...[:D]


Love the creative-ful spelling too.[;)]




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/22/2013 8:32:33 PM)

Yeah well it seems she might have blown her 5th right when she gave an opening statement proclaiming her innocence.

When Rep. Elisha Cummings D-MD and Rep Trey Gowdy R-SC come together in common cause, it's only a matter of time before global warming freezes over!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/22/rep_gowdy_lerner_waived_her_fifth_amendment_rights_by_giving_statement.html




Owner59 -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/22/2013 8:57:12 PM)

Thought you were a "free speech kinda guy"?


[8|]




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/22/2013 9:23:14 PM)

I am....

But she didn't just give this story stronger legs, she added rocket wheels




graceadieu -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/22/2013 10:01:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

I'm sure it concerned her lawyer when Boehner asked "who's going to jail?" in relation to this.


I'm sure. Whether or not she did anything illegal (or even had any responsibility for the profiling), she's clearly nervous that she might be getting in legal trouble over this.

Her refusing to testify won't be the end of the investigation, though. If anything, she made herself look guilty. I'm no lawyer, but I feel like probably she would've been better off taking the same tactic of "I didn't know anything" as the other guys.




LizDeluxe -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/22/2013 10:47:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: graceadieu
I'm sure. Whether or not she did anything illegal (or even had any responsibility for the profiling), she's clearly nervous that she might be getting in legal trouble over this.

Her refusing to testify won't be the end of the investigation, though. If anything, she made herself look guilty. I'm no lawyer, but I feel like probably she would've been better off taking the same tactic of "I didn't know anything" as the other guys.


I really don't fault her for taking the 5th. Someone is going to have this hung on them, right or wrong. The White House has shown the shell game they are capable of playing in regard to the truth through the whole Benghazi fiasco. She is probably well aware that they will sacrifice her in a heartbeat even if she is not at fault. Make them prove it. I think she did the smart thing.




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Lois Lerner is Taking the Fifth (5/22/2013 11:57:54 PM)

Right.... I keep forgetting, this gets the Democrats a free pass in you eyes.





quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

"contemptful of Congress"



That`s like hypocrites being upset about hypocrisy.....


That`s like rapists being upset about rape.....


That`s like quacks being upset about malpractice....


That`s like adulterers getting pissed about cheating....


That`s like...well...you get the drift...[:D]


Love the creative-ful spelling too.[;)]





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