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RE: ok! he went home, thanks everyone. - 5/28/2013 1:34:51 AM   
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I've never understood dog ownership in the city, just never have.

If one understands nature at all, anyways.


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I always liked this gem from Churchill: "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us, but pigs treat us as equals."



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RE: ok! he went home, thanks everyone. - 5/28/2013 1:41:48 AM   
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RE: ok! he went home, thanks everyone. - 5/28/2013 1:49:27 AM   
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quote:

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I've never understood dog ownership in the city, just never have.

If one understands nature at all, and has any respect for it, anyways.


PS

I always liked this gem from Churchill: "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down upon us, but pigs treat us as equals."

I kind of agree with that. That's why I won't have them as pets.

If you live in the country or have a big enough plot of land as your property (which wouldn't really be in a city), things like dogs and cats don't belong in a city and I feel it's quite cruel to keep them under such conditions.

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RE: ok! he went home, thanks everyone. - 5/28/2013 2:34:33 AM   
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In the last city I lived in, I was fortunate enough to be close to a group of feral cats. Wonderful experience.

Now I live in a larger city and only come upon individual such cats, so then much harder to get close to.

Natural cats will eat yellow grits, with or with out bits of salmon tossed in, and have always eaten the last scrap of the bits of kale leaf, cooked or raw, that was added as garnish.

There's nothing like the experience of giving a feral cat the first petting or massage of its own experience. For those that take to it, they almost attack you for more.

It takes a good bit of time and patience to get things to that point.

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RE: ok! he went home, thanks everyone. - 5/28/2013 6:16:09 AM   
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I used to live in student accommodation that had feral cats, they kept the rats down (tsk, messy students) and were great to just see wandering around. That was, until they decided that having "homeless" cats was "a sin" and had all the young ones snipped and the older ones put down as "dangerous".

Now they have rats.

I have no doggy advice, sorry.

EDIT: just seen the title change, good news!

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RE: ok! he went home, thanks everyone. - 5/28/2013 9:30:25 AM   
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I fed those cats the yellow grits and the kale, just to make that clear. But they certainly were OK if I didn't do that for a week.

Yeah, the animal control freaks would have gasped at my feeding them, or getting close to them at all.

Of course half of the kittens born in that group didn't make it, but those who made it past six weeks had noticeable respect from the crowd from there on out, and those six-weekers let it be known they were here to stay, in the language that free cats understand. That was so enlightening to see.

I don't know why humans think that it's more 'humane' for humans to exercise their crude form of population control over feral cats rather than nature.

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RE: ok! he went home, thanks everyone. - 5/28/2013 12:24:27 PM   
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We have a half Acer and live out in the boonies almost lol.


Most the time she just wants go to out do what she went out for and come back with no dawddling lol
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwynn
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I've never understood dog ownership in the city, just never have.

If one understands nature at all, and has any respect for it, anyways.


PS

I always liked this gem from Churchill: "I like pigs. Dogs look up to us, cats look down upon us, but pigs treat us as equals."

I kind of agree with that. That's why I won't have them as pets.

If you live in the country or have a big enough plot of land as your property (which wouldn't really be in a city), things like dogs and cats don't belong in a city and I feel it's quite cruel to keep them under such conditions.



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RE: ok! he went home, thanks everyone. - 5/28/2013 2:12:38 PM   
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There's nothing like the experience of giving a feral cat the first petting or massage of its own experience. For those that take to it, they almost attack you for more.


Thank you for that one...might explain why my parents cats actually do show you, that they disagree with you when you want to stop petting them...they were born as ferals but then someone caught them and two of those threee of that litter ended up at parents house...

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RE: ok! he went home, thanks everyone. - 5/28/2013 7:51:45 PM   
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I don't know why humans think that it's more 'humane' for humans to exercise their crude form of population control over feral cats rather than nature.


Because they tend to overpopulate and end up killing local animals and spreading disease. I have no idea how it is where you live but here in the USA, feral cats tend to overrun a town if left on their own.


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RE: ok! he went home, thanks everyone. - 5/28/2013 7:59:08 PM   
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Because they tend to overpopulate and end up killing local animals and spreading disease. I have no idea how it is where you live but here in the USA, feral cats tend to overrun a town if left on their own.

"Un-owned and owned free-ranging domestic cats kill between 1.4 and 3.7 billion birds and between 6.9 and 20.7 billion small mammals each year in the contiguous United States, according to Smithsonian Conservation Biology Institute scientists who have completed the first systematic review of publications that estimate cats’ predation rates."

http://nationalzoo.si.edu/scbi/migratorybirds/blog/default.cfm?id=128

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