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BamaD -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/25/2013 9:31:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


Kevlar provides very little protection against a knife.



I havent messed with it since it first came out 100 years ago, fuck I am old, and one layer I agree but that that shit is thick and punching through with a knife was damn hard is my memory is still working.

yep it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8AJYDrFlU

then again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=FwMDdYnEvjw

Then why do the makers tell you it is poor protection, yes it is better than a t shirt but it is not nearly as good against a pointed weapon as against a bullet.




Real0ne -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/25/2013 9:32:48 PM)

take a moment to watch those clips




BamaD -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/25/2013 9:34:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

The Milwaukee police have tased alotta bros:

http://www.policeone.com/police-products/less-lethal/articles/91449-Police-Use-New-Tasers-Frequently-Stun-Guns-Subdue-105-People-in-First-4-Months/

Guess it wasn't deadly enough force for them.



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ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic

This is an example of why more departments need tasers. They work most of the time. Unfortunately those in certain parts of life advocated that they were cruel and unusual forcing police to rely on their firearms. Firearms are hammers and when all you have is a hammer, every problem is a nail. Cops lost their knightsticks so they had to use asps which have less utility and are more dangerous. Cops lost their tasers and now they can only use their guns. Give cops back their knightsticks and tasers and this shit will happen less.



Tasers have caused a lot of deaths too. unless a persons ticker is 100% they can be just as lethal as a well placed bullet.

yep this I agree with, what happened to the nitestick?


Every time a nightstick is used you hear about police brutality, this was explained earlier. This is why many departments no longer issue them.




Real0ne -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/25/2013 9:35:39 PM)

yeh because they are psychopaths.

give them any means to hurt and they abuse it.

I see no reason why that kid should have died! none.

then they said the kid died of blood loss, like no kidding after a cop turns him into a sieve.

So I ask the question once again, with all the alternatives available to the him that would have no adverse consequences why are these assholes shooting living people deader than hell?




tazzygirl -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/26/2013 1:18:57 AM)

You might want to look up his rap sheet. Apparently the man was well known to the police.




kiwisub12 -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/26/2013 7:04:24 AM)

Ya know - i've personally and professionally known many cops - and i wouldn't catagorise any of them as psychopaths. Not one.

Very strange when you think about it - because you would think it would be hard to hide psychopathy from all your friends and family. You would think at least one would show their bad blood at some time.

or perhaps Realone likes to make blanket statements that are false.




Real0ne -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/26/2013 8:00:58 AM)

its an epidemic

more psychopaths doing what they do best--- loonacy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4G37Ouy164

you think these fuckers are sane?




Real0ne -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/26/2013 8:03:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

You might want to look up his rap sheet. Apparently the man was well known to the police.


so executing the man was justified after all.




kiwisub12 -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/26/2013 8:27:24 AM)

so the guy wasn't the sultan of innocence you seem to think he is. So maybe the cop made the right call for his and the others around safety. So maybe your hate retoric towards cops is misjudged. So perhaps the world isn't as black and white as you seem to think. So maybe shooting someone in the line of duty is a necessary evil. So maybe cops are human beings with all their frailities and issues.

So maybe your initial assessment that it was murder was WRONG!!!!




Real0ne -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/26/2013 12:55:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

so the guy wasn't the sultan of innocence you seem to think he is. So maybe the cop made the right call for his and the others around safety. So maybe your hate retoric towards cops is misjudged. So perhaps the world isn't as black and white as you seem to think. So maybe shooting someone in the line of duty is a necessary evil. So maybe cops are human beings with all their frailities and issues.

So maybe your initial assessment that it was murder was WRONG!!!!


What does a heart pumping blood in a living body that was turned into a sieve by a cop who chose to escalate the matter to murder rather than diffusing it, have anything to with sultan of innocence? Harsh political speech is not hate rhetoric, nice try at shifting the focus, you like taz made perfectly clear, that you condone and support state murder, whats next, death squads.
Big difference shooting someone because they were a "real" threat (like these school shootings for instance), and merely because some psychopath has the authority to escalate violence because its protected and sanctioned by the state. The Einsatzgruppen were sanctioned by the state, and considered human beings too and they operated in the line of duty with all their frailties as well. There were and remain any number of alternatives that these psychopaths could use but they dont, they would rather snuff someone out "because they can"






kiwisub12 -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/26/2013 1:02:22 PM)

Realone perhaps you need to show what evidence you are basing the assertion that the cop was a bad egg, and the victim was an innocent.

And when you think about it, all the "psychopaths" in all the police departments everywhere are doing a real bad job of killing lots of innocent people. You would almost think that killing people wasn't their main aim in life (pun intended).




tazzygirl -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/26/2013 1:44:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

You might want to look up his rap sheet. Apparently the man was well known to the police.


so executing the man was justified after all.


In your eyes, he was executed. Im not so sure. he was told not to move. He moved. he was told to put his hands up, he didnt. With a rap sheet containing information like assault with a deadly weapon, would you wait? I wouldnt.




Real0ne -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/26/2013 1:45:45 PM)

what you do not understand is that this is merely a sample of the state enabled psychopathic epidemic. This is a nationwide problem. You dont start blasting a guy with a knife any more than you nuke a crowd of protestors.

the net is littered with this, that is the point of the post. They do not work for us. They work for themselves and the prison system is a corporation and is traded on the stock market. This shit is big business!


Cop caught on Tape: Police Beat a Woman almost to Death

Police Beat a Father To Death While He Begs For Help - Then Arrest Witnesses and confiscate their phones

LAPD chase man EXECUTE him Claim Self Defense

Police Shoot Unarmed Man in the Back Execution Style in CA Local News Report

SFPD Shot & Killed Man WHILE Handcuffed, witnesses report 1/2

LAPD Brutally Slam A Women To The Ground - Cops Fist Bump



Hell may as well have the cryps bloods and al capone running the show!

this shit is endless SOP, there is posting after posting of video for shit sake how people in the land of the free are treated. Only a scant few are caught on tape.






Real0ne -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/26/2013 1:50:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

You might want to look up his rap sheet. Apparently the man was well known to the police.


so executing the man was justified after all.


In your eyes, he was executed. Im not so sure. he was told not to move. He moved. he was told to put his hands up, he didnt. With a rap sheet containing information like assault with a deadly weapon, would you wait? I wouldnt.



well there you go!

He moved! Nows our chance boyz! Blast the mutha fucka!

What do you think because he has a rap sheet, that a gun will magically materialize before they shoot him? No that happens after they shoot him.




eulero83 -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/26/2013 3:06:41 PM)

sometimes things can be done differently




BamaD -> RE: Police shoot man with knife who threatened suicide (5/27/2013 3:58:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

so the guy wasn't the sultan of innocence you seem to think he is. So maybe the cop made the right call for his and the others around safety. So maybe your hate retoric towards cops is misjudged. So perhaps the world isn't as black and white as you seem to think. So maybe shooting someone in the line of duty is a necessary evil. So maybe cops are human beings with all their frailities and issues.

So maybe your initial assessment that it was murder was WRONG!!!!


What does a heart pumping blood in a living body that was turned into a sieve by a cop who chose to escalate the matter to murder rather than diffusing it, have anything to with sultan of innocence? Harsh political speech is not hate rhetoric, nice try at shifting the focus, you like taz made perfectly clear, that you condone and support state murder, whats next, death squads.
Big difference shooting someone because they were a "real" threat (like these school shootings for instance), and merely because some psychopath has the authority to escalate violence because its protected and sanctioned by the state. The Einsatzgruppen were sanctioned by the state, and considered human beings too and they operated in the line of duty with all their frailties as well. There were and remain any number of alternatives that these psychopaths could use but they dont, they would rather snuff someone out "because they can"




You forget he had a knife




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